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romancelife 04-30-2025 07:57 AM

What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
I've asked every single exchanger on bestchange. I couldn't find a single one willing to accept goods and services. And if I send as friends and family there's the risk of getting limited.

I really don't get it. What are you guys doing to get the money out?

rsot 04-30-2025 08:06 AM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
I use real bank accounts - you don't have accept to them?

agent006140 04-30-2025 08:25 AM

you have friend in US?

Quote:

Originally Posted by romancelife (Post 1256854)
is there a risk it will be limited if you constantly send FF on a developed account?

YES,IT is called FEE AVOIDANCE

PAYPAL is always watching.

duplicate post

murdered_by_ebay 04-30-2025 09:13 AM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
stealth paypal is needed for people with access to the banking system , like in the UK where it is possible to withdraw to bank or credit card and from there it is possible to exchange into crypto etc.

exchanging directly from paypal is risky , this especially applies to goods and services

romancelife 04-30-2025 09:53 AM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1256842)
I use real bank accounts - you don't have accept to them?

Since the topic is about stealth accounts, how do you withdraw the money if the name doesn't match?

romancelife 04-30-2025 09:54 AM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1256844)
you have friend in US?

No, and I'm not sure what you mean.

romancelife 04-30-2025 09:56 AM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1256845)
stealth paypal is needed for people with access to the banking system , like in the UK where it is possible to withdraw to bank or credit card and from there it is possible to exchange into crypto etc.

exchanging directly from paypal is risky , this especially applies to goods and services

Do you know if there are any risks of sending as F&F once in a while?

Also, how do you do multiquotes on this forum? I tried pressing the multi quote button, but I couldn't find any way to paste all the quotes in the reply section

murdered_by_ebay 04-30-2025 11:15 AM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by romancelife (Post 1256848)
Do you know if there are any risks of sending as F&F once in a while?

Also, how do you do multiquotes on this forum? I tried pressing the multi quote button, but I couldn't find any way to paste all the quotes in the reply section

I think you just copy them manually

you can send FF on a developed account , with new ones I do not know

romancelife 04-30-2025 11:33 AM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1256852)
I think you just copy them manually

you can send FF on a developed account , with new ones I do not know

is there a risk it will be limited if you constantly send FF on a developed account?

UKGiftWarranty 04-30-2025 12:52 PM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
You have SO many options to cashout.

Personally, we handle most of ours via Crypto trades and sending to real PP accounts of people we trust - after shuffling the money round a little bit - and it works perfectly.

romancelife 04-30-2025 03:28 PM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UKGiftWarranty (Post 1256856)
You have SO many options to cashout.

Personally, we handle most of ours via Crypto trades and sending to real PP accounts of people we trust - after shuffling the money round a little bit - and it works perfectly.


Where do you find traders? I contacted those on the marketplace but they only did numbers above 1000 usd. Paxful asks for selfie verification and those traders who allow traders without verification seem shady.

Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1256857)
YES,IT is called FEE AVOIDANCE

How sensitive is PP about this? Is it okay to do so once a month or so?

murdered_by_ebay 04-30-2025 03:51 PM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
it is a question of activity , if the account only receives money and then resends by FF it could be terminated because it is a known fraud scheme where the funds are quickly sent elsewhere as FF and are withdrawn there since FF becomes available immediately and goods/services is delayed by a few weeks

with long term accounts that have regular activity it is not a problem

SaiJin 04-30-2025 11:14 PM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by romancelife (Post 1256846)
Since the topic is about stealth accounts, how do you withdraw the money if the name doesn't match?

you really need to read the stealth guide, mate.

It will answer a lot of your basic questions like the above

SaiJin 04-30-2025 11:15 PM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by romancelife (Post 1256854)
is there a risk it will be limited if you constantly send FF on a developed account?

Yes, very high risk.

romancelife 05-01-2025 01:34 AM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1256866)
you really need to read the stealth guide, mate.

It will answer a lot of your basic questions like the above

Is it up to date? The latest reviews are up to a decade ago. A lot has changed since then

SaiJin 05-01-2025 07:33 AM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by romancelife (Post 1256870)
Is it up to date? The latest reviews are up to a decade ago. A lot has changed since then

This is what some people here don't get, yes it's an old book, like I said the BASICS.

You don't even have the basics down........

The forum exists to support people to master the basics, ask questions AND for new findings.

Specially on amazon when it keeps changing, we can't keep updating the book.
So we use the forum to do that.

rsot 05-01-2025 02:14 PM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by romancelife (Post 1256854)
is there a risk it will be limited if you constantly send FF on a developed account?

This is a big risk as SaiJin pointed out - better off paying for services/goods

romancelife 05-02-2025 11:13 AM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1256892)
This is a big risk as SaiJin pointed out - better off paying for services/goods

But then it's close to impossible to find crypto traders.

violin68 07-31-2025 12:21 PM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by romancelife (Post 1256926)
But then it's close to impossible to find crypto traders.

Have you made any progress with your task or found any solid ways?

level4tech 08-02-2025 07:31 AM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
I see it could be a large risk as well - any updates?

philby 08-03-2025 04:59 AM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
perhaps one could use a stealth pp to transfer funds to another pp account where they can be removed?

romancelife 08-11-2025 12:23 PM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by violin68 (Post 1260163)
Have you made any progress with your task or found any solid ways?

Nope. I'm lost, and I have no idea how to continue to use stealth PayPal

sax4 08-11-2025 03:17 PM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
In Norway one can withdraw to a card, name makes no difference, give it a shot

SaiJin 08-11-2025 08:30 PM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sax4 (Post 1260479)
In Norway one can withdraw to a card, name makes no difference, give it a shot

sounds like you have done this before...

paulfoltyn 08-16-2025 12:31 PM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by romancelife (Post 1256858)
Where do you find traders? I contacted those on the marketplace but they only did numbers above 1000 usd. Paxful asks for selfie verification and those traders who allow traders without verification seem shady.



How sensitive is PP about this? Is it okay to do so once a month or so?

one thing you should learn before you learn anything else, is completly ignore anything agent has to say.

rsot 08-17-2025 01:54 PM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
agent has been on in weeks so s/he might be gone...?

UKGiftWarranty 08-18-2025 09:35 AM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by romancelife (Post 1260474)
Nope. I'm lost, and I have no idea how to continue to use stealth PayPal

PayPal Stealth --> Crypto
PayPal Stealth --> Large infrequent payments to real accs (yours,friend,family)
PayPal Stealth --> Pay all business costs

romancelife 08-22-2025 09:17 AM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UKGiftWarranty (Post 1260625)
PayPal Stealth --> Crypto
PayPal Stealth --> Large infrequent payments to real accs (yours,friend,family)
PayPal Stealth --> Pay all business costs

Can you please tell me where can I find traders willing to accept PP stealth --> crypto without sending as F&F?

Agent isn't the only one who's told me about the risks of continuously abusing the F&F function on PayPal, so I'd rather avoid it

sax4 08-22-2025 12:39 PM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
A sensible person should not listen to anything Agent says, but in this case he/she/it is right.

But I don't see what the confusion is, in Norway you can withdraw to cards/banks. Failing that just buy stuff from Ebay, like gold coins for example

UKGiftWarranty 08-23-2025 06:05 AM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by romancelife (Post 1260711)
Can you please tell me where can I find traders willing to accept PP stealth --> crypto without sending as F&F?

Agent isn't the only one who's told me about the risks of continuously abusing the F&F function on PayPal, so I'd rather avoid it

We have 10-15 accs at any one time and its rare that we run into issues. We mix G&S with F&F. Balance them perhaps 70/30 in favour of G&S and you'll likely fly under the radar. We have been doing for over a decade. It's all about balance.

Just my 2 cents.

murdered_by_ebay 08-23-2025 07:02 AM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
if it is your goal to withdraw safely get a merchant account , set up a site and buy from yourself

it will cost you like 5% and you will have payout delays on the merchant account but this is safer than FF and you have options to run a network of paypal accounts and also multiple sites

on the other side if you are running a risky operation and would like to avoid using banks completely but want to convert paypal into crypto you will fail as this is one of the schemes that are red flagged quickly by anti fraud

rsot 08-23-2025 12:50 PM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
The 5% cost can add up but agreed, safer by far

romancelife 08-23-2025 01:01 PM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sax4 (Post 1260713)
A sensible person should not listen to anything Agent says, but in this case he/she/it is right.

But I don't see what the confusion is, in Norway you can withdraw to cards/banks. Failing that just buy stuff from Ebay, like gold coins for example

My stealth PP account is from UK though.

romancelife 08-23-2025 01:02 PM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UKGiftWarranty (Post 1260736)
We have 10-15 accs at any one time and its rare that we run into issues. We mix G&S with F&F. Balance them perhaps 70/30 in favour of G&S and you'll likely fly under the radar. We have been doing for over a decade. It's all about balance.

Just my 2 cents.

70/30 is that for the amount or transactions?

solefoodbk 08-24-2025 03:08 AM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sax4 (Post 1260713)
A sensible person should not listen to anything Agent says, but in this case he/she/it is right.

But I don't see what the confusion is, in Norway you can withdraw to cards/banks. Failing that just buy stuff from Ebay, like gold coins for example

I just wonder why he/she has still never figured out how to use the space bar after a comma, lol.

rsot 08-24-2025 10:24 AM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by solefoodbk (Post 1260758)
I just wonder why he/she has still never figured out how to use the space bar after a comma, lol.

Hasn't been active in a few weeks or so - might be gone.

SaiJin 08-25-2025 08:29 AM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by romancelife (Post 1260711)
Can you please tell me where can I find traders willing to accept PP stealth --> crypto without sending as F&F?

Agent isn't the only one who's told me about the risks of continuously abusing the F&F function on PayPal, so I'd rather avoid it

He is correct about abusing F&F.... you'll get nailed for it.

Traders, look for them in the marketplace section.

Any DMs offering these needs to be reported to me since those are most likely scammers.

romancelife 08-25-2025 01:18 PM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1260782)
He is correct about abusing F&F.... you'll get nailed for it.

Traders, look for them in the marketplace section.

Any DMs offering these needs to be reported to me since those are most likely scammers.

I have asked every single one of the traders in the marketplace. None offer PP to crypto with G&S. they only accept with F&F

JamesNorth101 08-25-2025 03:57 PM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by romancelife (Post 1260752)
70/30 is that for the amount or transactions?

Total amount and 100% agree with Warrenty here this is pretty similar to the ratio I have always used and never really run into issues with it either

rsot 08-26-2025 05:37 AM

Re: What's the point of stealth PP if you can't get the money out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by romancelife (Post 1260796)
I have asked every single one of the traders in the marketplace. None offer PP to crypto with G&S. they only accept with F&F

Crypto with G&S could be tough due to possibility of chargeback and "proof" issues if you think about it...


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