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PayPal will start holding funds for 21 days
 

Am I reading this right? PayPal will hold payments if you don't have at least 100 positive feedback and meet half a dozen other requirements? And they call it a "small percentage of cases"? I'd say about 95% of eBay sellers have less than 100 feedback! That's not a "small percentage".

well since they spent all the money that was being held from the frozen accounts on their new toy they need to build up their savings. I love paypal.

We all know here they will make up any excuse to hold the money and earn interest on it until it is RELEASED. They are going to loose alot of business behind these moves.

Not all such payments, just less than 5% of such transactions.

How do you know that? What's to stop them from doing this with everyone they possibly can?

yeah i read that today and finally im going to open a merchant account with ccnow to use for all my accounts garrr... 5% fees though, but safe and sound from paypals bullcrap

Hmm I wonder how this'll affect CCnow...because I'd rather just use CCnow and get the money in 14 days

Sorry, I've checked there is
"fewer than 5% of all payments on eBay"

Anyway,
Fees 2008 Rewards FAQ
ebay will check other sides to make a decision...such as
* Seller's % Positive Feedback in the last 30 days
* Seller's Detailed Seller Ratings in the last 30 days
* Final price for the item
* Shipping & handling fee
* Seller's eBay tenure as an eBay member
* Seller's total number of Feedback

I guess it is not madatory, not every transaction will be held!
even if you don't meet all the following requirements:
* eBay Tenure: Greater than 6-months
* Total Feedback score: More than 100
* Dissatisfied Buyers %: Less than 5%
Or if you don't meet all the following requirements: Detailed Seller Rating: Greater than 4.5 And Total Detailed Seller Ratings Recieved: More than 20 in the last 12-months.

It will be hell for everyone with a new account, in any case. And I guess that covers most people here.

Congrads, alot of you all officially phucked your selfs. I told you Ebay and paypal reads this forum..

Paypal read how you all got sneak your money out of Paypal and they counter reacted.....Some stuff you have to keep on the discreet..


Alot of you need to keep your big mouths shut.. You F'd it up for alot us..
I can name 3 big mouth people in here who talked too much!!!!!!!!!!


I'm not saying dont post tricks, but some stuff is best left alone or on the discreet. Alot of you go too much in to detail.

All we have to do here is give the basics so to speak..

I agree
 

I agree
eBay & Paypal counter react within a week of posting in the forum

Paypal is about to SCAM a whole lot of sellers...I can see it now, you have sold 30 items and shipped all your products in hopes that your funds will be released then paypal emails you.."sorry we can verify your identity and your funds will be on hold for 180 days" Sorry

I don't know if EB and PP did anything as a direct result of anything discussed here, but I do agree with CH in that some things are better not discussed in detail in the public areas and even via PM make sure that you know who you are talking too.

Ok, so we Re-Group.. I'm Probably "Big Mouth#1", so what?
-- Are we all That Important?
--- My Motto: "Where theres a Will theres a Way"! Period.
...Theres still plenty of Cats left to skin...
**Hey Guys- When your team lost a Football Game in Highschool-did we just sit down and giveup?
HECK NO! We fought on!!! AND WE WON NEXT TIME!!!

And we told our team players to keep their mouths shut:D

Tacklin' fuel..

I told aspkin to track IPs reading this forum and block anything related to ebay or that has ebay in the reverse DNS. I guess he didn't.

How would that prevent someone from spying from home or using a proxy

CHRIS...Naahhh.. I think Everyones Over Reacting..
--Dont you think those high paid Loss Prevention people have to come up with something new every once in a while, to keep their jobs??
-- I mean for real-- the standard "Limitation, fax your drivers license is kinda old,,,for real??
-- A New Challenge, a New Day.. Thats all!
-- The Managers all have New Bosses coming on board- Dont you think they wanna IMPRESS??

too bad???
give 'em enough rope...
trouble is there will always be thousands of more lambs just begging to be led to the PP slaughter

Let me tell you a funny story (and I am in NO WAY worried)..
I have 14 Paypal accounts, Ive gotinfo can Verify this, as he has networked with me on some things..
-- I had a call missed this morning, i have it in my cell as "paypal holds", its 1-800-830-8574
I have all 14 transferred to my cell, so i didnt really know which acct they were calling about??
-- here i am driving around, flipping though my card file box,,guys beeping behind me, cause Im moving too slow for them..
Turns out--BESIDES Paypal atm card holds, Chevy chase also uses them, to check on your useage...I just bought my kids a new pc on hsn.. they were just verifying it was me..
So- i was panic for nothing..

I don't believe ebay would bother with proxies. Proxies that you enter into your browser settings take work and are slow and may be slightly illegal at least for a company. The fast ones all leak your real IP address in the headers which aspkin can block. Also the web anonymizer sites can just be blocked, too.

Tor which is totally anonymous is extremely slow like crazy and there's methods to look up any Tor node to see if it is Tor.

This isn't much different than telemarketers spoofing phone calls which there are currently bills in congress to make it a felony to do so

It doesn't matter whether or not eBay uses proxies I would think. Couldn't their employees just look at the site at home anyway?

Granted but since when did that ever stop them from limiting an account when you tried to withdraw $100 after maybe doing a few hundred dollars of business? I can't wait till one of us comes on here to complain that their $50 is being held for 21 days.

What I find strange and what I believe needs to be discussed is their "less than 5% of payments" sentence. So far, they told us that unless you have:

* Less than 6 months registered on eBay
* Less than 100 feedback
and some other things..

They MAY hold your funds. Whether in eBay terms that means they WILL hold the funds, we don't know.

Surely it's NOT only 5% of eBay sellers that have been registered for 6+ months and have 100 feedback. Surely not, I mean come on ...

So does it affect about 5% of sellers that have less than 100 feedback? Or is the 5% estimate those buyers that have less than 100 feedback?

Hey guys why don't we do like them and start banning people out of this site if they don't fax their life to Aspkin:D

By the way, notice how they say if you have 20+ feedback and a detailed rating of 4.5 your funds won't be held?

Ebay also likes ebay accounts older than 6 months.


But anyway, ebay also said DSRs of 1 or 2 will count as bad to you.

Great, so a competitor can bid on your item. You can't leave him negative feedback, but he can leave you a DSR of 1 on each row, causing you to be a "bad seller" and having your funds locked up for 21 days on top.

Thats the point.. I bet paypal employees will start bidding on sellers item just to leave them neg feedback to have an excuse to lock up funds..

Its all a big game

All these new restrictions take away from the business of selling without repercussion makes them (eby and PP) money and not you in the long run. I don't have these problems anymore outside of the ebay community. Even when my customers use paypal, they know what they are getting and without incident from ebay.

Ebay controls their sellers now. Sellers have lost their rights IMHO. I sell my Veros without incident without using ebay. No one buys Veros on ebay anymore when they can get it cheaper and faster someplace else and privately.

Not all auction marketplace sites that accept paypal want intrusive garbage from an ebay-owned site that is dictating the rules. Sellers need to get back to the business of running their own businesses, and finally leave PP in the gutter, and go merchant account.

ebay is no longer a trusted name.

yep and we are giving them something new to come up with..

Telling you everytime we come up with something new they block it within a month..

Merchant accounts, now this

That is exactly what happened to me and I got suspended. I have been waving that red alert ever since. The "buyers" are dubious, and many are ebay staff itself.

The people making the real money are their employees with sellers accounts.

Very GOOD Point, Dutch.. Well Taken. :)

Yeah it's like eBay kamikaze attack.. no way to defend.

EDIT: LOL not even that I guess.. I forget the buyer can't get neg fb's now. :rolleyes:

Well.. we all have our own opinions, I know this much.. there are some Extremely Intelligent folks on this Forum.
- Whatever they throw at us, we'll overcome.
--BTW- if Aspkins Forum grows some more, Paypal + Ebay will have to hire more staff! Its Absolutely Amazing the ideas + sharing that goes on here!

-- I have been a member of the Rolex Forums for years, and thats BORING compared to in here.. (+ most of those folks own yachts + the like) :))

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Yep exactly. thats what i have been saying for months, but nobody wanted to believe..

Well not really. I've known about eBay employees bidding on items for some time because it's happened to me before..