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macnicolas 12-11-2013 12:42 PM

Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
Going fresh with an llc. Should i open how do it open my paypal account from the the start??
Personal or business???

macnicolas 12-11-2013 12:58 PM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
I guess my question is: how do i create my paypal account to bypass the ssn requirement form the beginning!??

Kelly441 12-11-2013 08:55 PM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
It will ask for you EIN instead

mrkurei 12-11-2013 09:47 PM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by macnicolas (Post 510522)
I guess my question is: how do i create my paypal account to bypass the ssn requirement form the beginning!??

NO WAY ! You only have 200 transaction/ $20000 . you must create more paypal accounts .

macnicolas 12-12-2013 01:04 AM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrkurei (Post 510638)
NO WAY ! You only have 200 transaction/ $20000 . you must create more paypal accounts .

are you saying! with a paypal business, you're only allowed 200 transactions per month?

heil86 12-12-2013 01:20 AM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by macnicolas (Post 510683)
are you saying! with a paypal business, you're only allowed 200 transactions per month?

no, he is saying that without a SSN on file with PayPal the entire account will be limited to 200 transactions or $20,000 per year, otherwise the account may be flagged and SSN be required, by law.

rama 12-12-2013 07:11 AM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
that is correct, when you are about to hit the limit , you will be asked for it.

Multiple accounts is the answer. Hit the search button and get all needed info to have your plan in place & best of luck

macnicolas 12-12-2013 08:36 AM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rama (Post 510762)
that is correct, when you are about to hit the limit , you will be asked for it.

Multiple accounts is the answer. Hit the search button and get all needed info to have your plan in place & best of luck

Do business account also get verified???
In terms of an llc!!!

I mean, before i proceed with over 20k in sales, can i attempt to have account verified with having to provide a ssn??

at this point, bank account and debit card are OK!!
only thing missing is a photo id!!

Any advice???

macnicolas 12-12-2013 08:38 AM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelly441 (Post 510620)
It will ask for you EIN instead

I already have that.

shaddypro1 12-12-2013 12:54 PM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by macnicolas (Post 510683)
are you saying! with a paypal business, you're only allowed 200 transactions per month?

200 transactions before they ask for an EIN

macnicolas 12-12-2013 01:42 PM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shaddypro1 (Post 510840)
200 transactions before they ask for an EIN

I already provided them with an EIN - does that put me a little bit in the clear???

serenityseeker 03-09-2014 01:02 PM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
I would be curious to know how this worked out for you. I am new here and am wanting to do the same thing. I have been selling for someone else averaging 15,000 a month, and want to do it for myself again. Suspended back in 2005.

serenityseeker 04-06-2014 08:08 AM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by macnicolas (Post 510518)
Going fresh with an llc. Should i open how do it open my paypal account from the the start??
Personal or business???

Which way did you open it ? Business or personal ? I am doing same thing

rsot 04-06-2014 10:30 AM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
If you use the LLC, makes sense to open business account

deanmoney 01-02-2015 05:56 AM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by serenityseeker (Post 535599)
I would be curious to know how this worked out for you. I am new here and am wanting to do the same thing. I have been selling for someone else averaging 15,000 a month, and want to do it for myself again. Suspended back in 2005.

Also was wondering the same thing. It seems most people's advice is to just say open multiple accounts. I am looking for my stealth account to be my main and only one.

So would opening up a paypal via a business account first be the right answer to bypass the SSN requirement. The guide is vague on this but hints at way that depends on how the paypal account is opened.

Breakthecycle2 01-02-2015 12:08 PM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
I usually open a personal then upgrade to a business, however, lately if I make a business account straight out of the gate, I get the weird soft limitation. I am allowed to only withdraw the first $100 a receive until my account information is verified.

yankee 01-02-2015 12:10 PM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Breakthecycle2 (Post 626655)
I usually open a personal then upgrade to a business, however, lately if I make a business account straight out of the gate, I get the weird soft limitation. I am allowed to only withdraw the first $100 a receive until my account information is verified.

Are they still asking for the 'users' SS and details?

Breakthecycle2 01-02-2015 12:11 PM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
Yes they are.

yankee 01-02-2015 12:14 PM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Breakthecycle2 (Post 626657)
Yes they are.

How do you get around that?

If you wait until paypal asks for the tax info, they do not ask for the 'users' SS just the EIN.

Breakthecycle2 01-02-2015 12:19 PM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
I dump the accounts. If you do a personal a first, then upgrade to a business, they don't seem to be asking for this yet.

deanmoney 01-02-2015 01:08 PM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Breakthecycle2 (Post 626660)
I dump the accounts. If you do a personal a first, then upgrade to a business, they don't seem to be asking for this yet.

Thanks but the guide implies that you should open the account with your new LLC that sounds like a persons name hence the only to do that would be to open a business account unless I am misunderstanding. Since a personal account would require a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name.

Breakthecycle2 01-02-2015 01:14 PM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
No, you open a personal account and then you upgrade that account to a business account.

deanmoney 01-02-2015 02:01 PM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Breakthecycle2 (Post 626672)
No, you open a personal account and then you upgrade that account to a business account.

So when I open a personal account should I use my business LLC name as a real name? This is how my SSN will never be asked?

yankee 01-02-2015 02:08 PM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deanmoney (Post 626684)
So when I open a personal account should I use my business LLC name as a real name? This is how my SSN will never be asked?

No. You are not hearing what we are saying.

yankee 01-02-2015 02:09 PM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
Open up a personal account. Sell on that account until paypal asks for tax info, then and ONLY THEN upgrade to business, change all details to your LLC and add the EIN.

yankee 01-02-2015 02:11 PM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
What happens when ebay makes you call in and you get suspended for not being able to pass data base questions? Your EIN paypal is now wasted forever.

ONLY add the EIN when absolutely needed and you have complete confidence the account will last.

REFLECT 01-02-2015 03:04 PM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
I opened an LLC and provided the EIN and all the information. As soon as I tried to log in they asked for last 4 digits SSN and date of birth and it said that IRS required it to avoid money laundering.To make things worse ebay canceled my just opened account and this paypal is lost. I need to open another LLC but I don't know what to do the next time they ask for this in the next paypal account. This just happened on 12/10/14

Dmshark25 01-02-2015 03:12 PM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
That's why never provide tax info until the account is going well and after 90 days when the paypal holds are lifted and limits raised with eBay and your making money than when asked for tax ID make the decision and if you want to provide this info just upgrade from personal paypal to Business PayPal

It's good to have that information ready but never add it from the start always wait until you see the account is going well like at least 4-6 months

deanmoney 01-02-2015 04:05 PM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 626687)
No. You are not hearing what we are saying.

When I open a personal account then what name should I use if not the LLC that sounds like a real persons name? To me the guide made it seem the LLC name plays a part in how you open up a new paypal account but I might be wrong. Sorry but I can't find enough info on the proper method to open a paypal account without an SSN being asked of me which is why all the question.

yankee 01-02-2015 04:10 PM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
You do not need to give any tax info until you approach 200 transactions OR 20K in sales. Don't put anything in that section until they demand it.

deanmoney 01-02-2015 06:16 PM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 626720)
You do not need to give any tax info until you approach 200 transactions OR 20K in sales. Don't put anything in that section until they demand it.

Thanks for clearing that up. Can someone answer my last post.

yankee 01-02-2015 07:03 PM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deanmoney (Post 626777)
Thanks for clearing that up. Can someone answer my last post.

What is your question?

trosky 01-02-2015 11:01 PM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deanmoney (Post 626717)
When I open a personal account then what name should I use if not the LLC that sounds like a real persons name? To me the guide made it seem the LLC name plays a part in how you open up a new paypal account but I might be wrong. Sorry but I can't find enough info on the proper method to open a paypal account without an SSN being asked of me which is why all the question.


Forget LLC and business account, open a standard PayPal stealth account with stealth info, all new info. Stealth name/address etc

deanmoney 01-02-2015 11:36 PM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trosky (Post 626834)
Forget LLC and business account, open a standard PayPal stealth account with stealth info, all new info. Stealth name/address etc

How would this help me when I reach the 20,00 limit? I'm trying to run a new long term business.

What I am trying to find out is how people bypass the SSN requirement. If I open up a personal account would I need to use my LLC name? The guide hints at a way to do this using an LLC name that sounds like a person but gives no further information.

solefoodbk 01-02-2015 11:57 PM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deanmoney (Post 626841)
How would this help me when I reach the 20,00 limit? I'm trying to run a new long term business.

What I am trying to find out is how people bypass the SSN requirement. If I open up a personal account would I need to use my LLC name? The guide hints at a way to do this using an LLC name that sounds like a person but gives no further information.

No one bypasses the SSN requirement? Not sure if you were reading what other memebers were saying but they already told you what to do.

Once you upgrade to business and add the ein there USUALLY is no reason for paypal to ask for SSN. They can ask for SSN at any time on ANY account if they feel they have a reason to. Just because a EIN is attached doesn't put you off limits to suspicion/limits with further information needed.

No one can bypass a SSN request. Unless your using YOUR social, anything thing else is identity theft.

yankee 01-03-2015 12:03 AM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
:deadhorse: Beating a dead horse here.

yankee 01-03-2015 12:07 AM

Re: Paypal personal or business at registration!!
 
We have answer your question many times. Please reread what we are saying. It is not complicated. You are having analysis paralysis.

It goes like this.
Open ebay and paypal account with fictitious info. Sell items. If your account lasts and you approach 200 items OR 20k in sales, paypal will ask for tax into. At this point you can determine if the account is worth adding your EIN. If it is, upgrade then and add your EIN. No SS needed.

I will not reply to this thread any more. All the info has been posted several times in this thread.


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