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RichardCard82 06-14-2014 01:40 AM

Did i screw up?
 
So i made a new stealth PayPal. I made a new bank account with Chase and i even changed my user ID.

So when adding my bank it asked me to log in with user ID so i did. But i noticed right way it brought up all the account's I had on other paypal's that were limited. It just showed the last 4 numbers of each account, It asked me to choose which account i wanted to add , I chose of course the newest one i made. Didn't ask me to only put the account number like normally. Although i think the option was at the bottom but i wasn't thinking about it at the time

But now it looks like they've seen all the bank accounts that were in the limited accounts. Should i be worried?? :pout:

MM78 06-14-2014 01:50 AM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
:doh: Let me guess, when you added the bank info....instead of 2-3 day you decided to do the instant verify, am I right?

RichardCard82 06-14-2014 01:53 AM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
Well yes i had changed the username on the chase account, So am i screwed?

MM78 06-14-2014 01:55 AM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
:doh: yeah you screwed up big time, NEVER....EVER do instant Verify! Looks like you also linked any bank account to any stealth account they were attached too.

RichardCard82 06-14-2014 01:58 AM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
Well all the bank accounts in there were attached to limite accounts already so what can i do?

MM78 06-14-2014 02:00 AM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
close the bank account because it's now worthless.....and the Paypal is going to be worthless also. So now you gotta start over with a new Paypal/Ebay account and open a new bank account....and this time, don't do instant verify.

Dmshark25 06-14-2014 02:10 AM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
I use instant verification all the time , and same username and password, 2 years running over 100 stealths and I have yet to be limited and needed to wait 180 days

I know they do use a third party to do the instant verification , but like I said I been doing instant for couple years and I never have a problem with paypal


What you experienced was when you logged into your bank account all the accounts associated with that username and password came up and you check off the accounts that u would like to link , so unless you checked off the limited accounts than you are ok.

I understand being paranoid over giving this type of info, every time I do it,I have a little worry but I actually think that this is run legit and with privacy through a 3rd party

I'm not endorsing instant verification just something that I have read from a post by Aspkin a long time ago that it was ok to use so that is the method I use when creating accounts, and if it's an account with the same bank I always use my same log in and password

So I wouldn't scrap everything as of yet , u should be fine unless u checked off the accounts that were used and limited on a previous paypal and tried to add them otherwise go about things as normal

RichardCard82 06-14-2014 02:19 AM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
Well thank you, that makes me feel better. No i just checked the account that i just made. So ill wait it out and see what happens

RichardCard82 06-14-2014 02:26 AM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
Also i use my iPad's cell service (verizon LTE) to log in some of the accounts , should i worry about that?

SaiJin 06-14-2014 09:04 AM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
As long as you delete your cookies and history plus change your IP on your tablet, it's doable.

Have you gotten the stealth guide yet? We cover these things in the guide.

RichardCard82 06-14-2014 02:35 PM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
I wasn't doing that,well i was changingi IP's but wasn't deleting cookies.... i lost 3 paypal's within 10 minutes of eachother... i think it was because i wasn't clearing cookies ...

danshan 06-14-2014 02:52 PM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 560020)
As long as you delete your cookies and history plus change your IP on your tablet, it's doable.

Have you gotten the stealth guide yet? We cover these things in the guide.

why are you deleting cookies?

Dmshark25 06-14-2014 10:01 PM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
Cookies need to be deleted because most he's on an IPad and i doubt he thought to use separate browsers for each stealth or the App Switch , which is nice for the iPad you can create like 13 user accounts

danshan 06-14-2014 10:21 PM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
He is using ipad to tether not log on.

Dmshark25 06-14-2014 11:01 PM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
He actually didn't make that clear looking back on the post, at first me and SaiJin both interpreted it as he is using his iPad and it's cellular service

You may be right , he never says tether, and the lack of experience I don't think he knows what tethering is, and is just using one browser on his iPad , and just turning data on and off expecting a new IP

So cookies are mixed up. I'm sure here is no IP log, and service in an iPad is drinetly repeating IPS

Guess that's why 3 PayPals went down in minutes

Whatever they are doing the whole operation needs work

SaiJin 06-14-2014 11:20 PM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
This is the reason I don't like using a mobile OS to do something as detailed as this.

I feel that if you are serious about eBay business, a slight inconvenience is in order in terms of having a dedicated computer for the job.

Besides, I like having that dedicated machine, so I don't get to live in the eBay world and enjoy life.

The stealth guide has very detailed step by step and this is why I kept recommending people to get it before they start something and become confused.
THe fee for the guide which also gives access to the VIP section to the forum is so worth it and it'll make you a master rather than a fiddler.

GreenBean 06-14-2014 11:29 PM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCard82 (Post 559971)
Also i use my iPad's cell service (verizon LTE) to log in some of the accounts , should i worry about that?

If that has ebay app, then you are linking yourself....

Be careful of what you do

:deadhorse:

Dmshark25 06-14-2014 11:36 PM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
Yea , you need that home base, for all main operations, with separate user accounts so that your not clearing cookies and logging in with a new IP every time

This is why so many have problems , limitations , suspensions,etc,.

I feel,especially with paypal by logging in on one dedicated user account all the time would cut 90% of all the problems and everything

I think a big reason, and I said this before , that I never have problems with paypal is because I operate only from the same computer/ user account

I will never make withdrawals or send money from my friends iPhone or whatever, just going blind on the IP for one and on the other it's just a huge risk logging in from a device that has no history of you ever being there, especially when it has to do with financials

If paypal detects a stray log in like that they need to limit the account and ask for ID , because it could be anyone logging in and stealing

I'm a huge fan of Logmein, Even when I'm at home I'm on my iPad mini operating my accounts from my iPad using LOGMEIN , great remote program, always a nice strong connection

And I use a WEMO switch and plug my modem into that , so I'm able to change my IP and just breeze through accounts using Logmein from my iPad along with WEMO

So whether I'm home or away I'm always using the same PC and I'm so used to operating it remotely I find it a lot easier

I can be relaxing in my room lying down switching from account to account listing, selling, printing postage

danshan 06-15-2014 09:40 AM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
Great advice and great insight

RichardCard82 06-15-2014 11:20 AM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmshark25 (Post 560164)
Yea , you need that home base, for all main operations, with separate user accounts so that your not clearing cookies and logging in with a new IP every time

This is why so many have problems , limitations , suspensions,etc,.

I feel,especially with paypal by logging in on one dedicated user account all the time would cut 90% of all the problems and everything

I think a big reason, and I said this before , that I never have problems with paypal is because I operate only from the same computer/ user account

I will never make withdrawals or send money from my friends iPhone or whatever, just going blind on the IP for one and on the other it's just a huge risk logging in from a device that has no history of you ever being there, especially when it has to do with financials

If paypal detects a stray log in like that they need to limit the account and ask for ID , because it could be anyone logging in and stealing

I'm a huge fan of Logmein, Even when I'm at home I'm on my iPad mini operating my accounts from my iPad using LOGMEIN , great remote program, always a nice strong connection

And I use a WEMO switch and plug my modem into that , so I'm able to change my IP and just breeze through accounts using Logmein from my iPad along with WEMO

So whether I'm home or away I'm always using the same PC and I'm so used to operating it remotely I find it a lot easier

I can be relaxing in my room lying down switching from account to account listing, selling, printing postage

I was using my iPad's cell data , it runs on Verizon's network. I wasn't clearing cookies or switching IPs. Didnt know you could make user accounts on iPads either. I cleared cookies and switched IP (by turning off data and turning on again) and im using a new paypal but haven't switched to a new user account. Should i be worried?

Never new about those logmein or WEMO apps

danshan 06-15-2014 11:22 AM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
Your joking right?

RichardCard82 06-15-2014 05:34 PM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
Joking about what? I dont see the humor in this

danshan 06-15-2014 05:35 PM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
I am sorry I thought you were joking. I dont think your stealth is ready, read up! Read up!

GreenBean 06-15-2014 05:51 PM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCard82 (Post 560326)
Joking about what? I dont see the humor in this

Your methods are flawed.

You are linking yourself.

Stop making accounts until you know what to do.

RichardCard82 06-15-2014 05:57 PM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean (Post 560332)
Your methods are flawed.

You are linking yourself.

Stop making accounts until you know what to do.

Sadly ive learned by my mistakes. Luckily for me i have my LLC that has come in the mail. Ill be using all legit information. And ill be using a VPS to avoid accidentally using an IP or forgetting to use the right IP or the right user account

Dmshark25 06-16-2014 03:44 AM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
Definetly don't waste that and wait, , and I'm not tryin to put u down we all been where u are, but if you go ahead and make another account and use your LLC than you are going to burn that also, from your posts your not ready and do not understand any concepts about operating link free


I'm sure you are eager to get back to selling but u need to slow up and learn stealth , read the book a couple times , use the search function here, and read daily posts, and,ask questions

When you think your ready repost how you are going to make the accounts and operate, it be a shame to waste the LLC

rsot 06-16-2014 05:15 AM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCard82 (Post 560081)
I wasn't doing that,well i was changingi IP's but wasn't deleting cookies.... i lost 3 paypal's within 10 minutes of eachother... i think it was because i wasn't clearing cookies ...

Keep cookies in separate user accounts

GreenBean 06-16-2014 05:26 AM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCard82 (Post 560336)
Sadly ive learned by my mistakes. Luckily for me i have my LLC that has come in the mail. Ill be using all legit information. And ill be using a VPS to avoid accidentally using an IP or forgetting to use the right IP or the right user account

Stop rushing though.

Stop rushing.

Make sure about how you use the LLC and what info you in fact use.

:shhh:

RichardCard82 06-16-2014 11:27 PM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean (Post 560425)
Stop rushing though.

Stop rushing.

Make sure about how you use the LLC and what info you in fact use.

:shhh:

Im actually getting a VPS for this LLC. Not risking mixing and matching IP's, Cookies or using iPad to log in. That's what got me burned with those 3 paypal's i lost. (I've lost a total of 11 paypal's with over 6k in them all combined, yeah i know i almost went crazy) Im using the business bank account i opened (has a seperate user ID and not linked to any of my other aco****s) using the EIN to verify it. Using my real name but im using a UPS mailbox address, Not in my own city but the next city over. And have a tracfone phone i got just for this LLC, i also have a legit website made (posing as a webhost company)

But even better I also signed up with 2checkout dot com. Its a merchant processor that allows you to accept CC payments and paypal as well (without using your own paypal). Just waiting to get final approval so i can start getting paid and once that is done im using it 100% of the time since it allows everyone to pay with PayPal. I just invoice them to my site and they pay! Ill update you guys if it does work. This would be a great option for those that make their money outside eBay like myself.

danshan 06-16-2014 11:30 PM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
Sounds like a ton of work and still might get hit, stealth is all about spreading out risk

RichardCard82 06-16-2014 11:34 PM

Re: Did i screw up?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danshan (Post 560579)
Sounds like a ton of work and still might get hit, stealth is all about spreading out risk

Yes ton of work but better safe than sorry, I Don't want to use any VPN that might have blacklisted IP's or risk making a user account and i forget which one im on and log on by accident. Besides with the merchant account i SHOULDNT have to use my real paypal email since the merchant processor allows people to pay with Paypal and they send me the money to my bank account.

Im still going to use stealth Paypal's, just going to be more careful on how i make them and make sure i stick to the basics. Different User ID. New IP. Clear cookies. ect..... I might make 3 more accounts on the side. Since i make $400-$500 daily on sales. Its sad all that money is tied up for such a long time, but hey $6,500 at the end of the year? doesn't sound that bad

Ill even open up an eBay account just in case i get back in to eBay one day. Or just to buy things that i do need and cant find them cheaper on Amazon


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