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| golfdude | 10-31-2014 02:07 AM | Need 50 Paypal accounts ? Hello folks,
I need around 50 Paypal account to use outside of Ebay. My Ebay and the Paypal account associated with it is working perfectly fine.
I need these 50 Paypal accounts to purchase under different names from different marketplaces. I have 2 questions:
1) Do I need a VBA and VCC each time for the 50 accounts ?
I will NEVER need to withdraw funds from these 50 Paypal accounts since I only need these accounts to purchase. So can I purchase using the VCC once the Paypal account is created ?
Thanks. |
| slokor | 10-31-2014 02:11 AM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? Youre asking for trouble.
Youll create 50 accounts for sending payment yet not attach your own bank account to them.
This means that in order to send funds you will first need to receive funds.
That will get you in trouble depending on the type of activity you engage in.
Be careful. |
| golfdude | 10-31-2014 03:06 AM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? Quote:
Originally Posted by slokor
(Post 603642)
Youre asking for trouble.
Youll create 50 accounts for sending payment yet not attach your own bank account to them.
This means that in order to send funds you will first need to receive funds.
That will get you in trouble depending on the type of activity you engage in.
Be careful. | But can't I use VCC like Vanilla Gift cards to send funds. I thought that was the whole point of having a VCC. Once I have a VBA and VCC associated with a new Paypal account, can I purchase using the VCC ?
In that case I can use a different VBA and VCC for each Paypal account and use the VCC to purchase from different marketplaces.
Am I missing something ?
Thanks. |
| GreenBean | 10-31-2014 04:26 AM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? Missing the entire point |
| golfdude | 10-31-2014 04:40 AM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 603651)
Missing the entire point | Hi GreenBean,
I have gone through all the Paypal posts here. So can you please briefly tell me whats wrong with my plan ?
Thanks. |
| JamesNorth101 | 10-31-2014 05:15 AM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? I totally fail to see why you would need 50 PayPals to buy from different markets.
If you are just buying items and not selling, then using 1 PayPal would be fine, and yes you can fund the puchases using a VCC, but really a PayPal is always strongest when verified so you should also use a VBA per PP. |
Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? You need 50 pp accounts OP? Then it's time to understand stealth and get creating or buying. It is doable but takes dedication and time on your part |
| yfournet | 10-31-2014 06:17 AM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 603664)
You need 50 pp accounts OP? Then it's time to understand stealth and get creating or buying. It is doable but takes dedication and time on your part | " get creating or buying " :dance: :thumb: |
| write | 10-31-2014 09:13 PM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? yep without details I don't think I can help ya.
It smells risky though.. |
Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? Quote:
Originally Posted by yfournet
(Post 603714)
" get creating or buying " :dance: :thumb: | There are sellers on this site :) but make sure you know stealth to OPERATE the new accounts that you buy |
| golfdude | 11-02-2014 11:46 PM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 603961)
There are sellers on this site :) but make sure you know stealth to OPERATE the new accounts that you buy | Hi rsot, others,
I have approached many sellers here but am not getting clear answers. The following is an example of a PP account for sale by a seller here:
================================================== ======
All Accounts are Address Verified by Credit Card, Verified by Phone, and Confirmed by Bank Account!
An Address Verified by Credit Card and a Confirmed Bank Account add Stability to your Account
All Accounts are "TESTED" before being Released to ensure a Properly Working eBay/PayPal Account!
================================================== ======
My question is does this kind of PP account be used to purchase stuff on other marketplaces ?. In other words, does the VBA/VCC associated with this account have some funds inside which I can use to purchase stuff online ?
Thanks. |
Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? Quote:
Originally Posted by golfdude
(Post 604425)
My question is does this kind of PP account be used to purchase stuff on other marketplaces ?. In other words, does the VBA/VCC associated with this account have some funds inside which I can use to purchase stuff online ?
Thanks. | VBA's have ZERO funds, You have to find a way to get funds into those Paypals to use. |
| slokor | 11-02-2014 11:58 PM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? The words 'Other marketplaces' are very vague.
There are sites and paypal accounts that if you send payment to WILL raise a red flag and get you shut down - no matter how well the accounts are established.
As for funds - no I doubt there are any funds on an account you buy. The sellers here sell you the account - NOT the balance on the account. It is up to YOU to get the funds onto the account.
Again I say - what youre asking for sounds very shady. If you are looking for a legit operation youd simply create a legitimate paypal account and get things done properly without needing FIFTY separate accounts. |
Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? @Slokor, problem is that the OP isn't completely truthful on why he/she needs 50 Paypals for purchasing. I don't blame any seller on this forum for not wanting to supply the 50 Paypals when it's unclear what the OP real plans are. |
| slokor | 11-03-2014 01:09 AM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? Quote:
Originally Posted by MM78
(Post 604433)
@Slokor, problem is that the OP isn't completely truthful on why he/she needs 50 Paypals for purchasing. I don't blame any seller on this forum for not wanting to supply the 50 Paypals when it's unclear what the OP real plans are. | Wasn't going to say anything about it but I completely agree.
VERY SHADY. |
| GreenBean | 11-03-2014 01:20 AM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? Quote:
Originally Posted by MM78
(Post 604433)
@Slokor, problem is that the OP isn't completely truthful on why he/she needs 50 Paypals for purchasing. I don't blame any seller on this forum for not wanting to supply the 50 Paypals when it's unclear what the OP real plans are. | True. Quote:
Originally Posted by slokor
(Post 604451)
Wasn't going to say anything about it but I completely agree.
VERY SHADY. |
Purchasing is not likely items.
It is appears to be services, in my estimation.
Such sites are a risk. paypal will flag any & all accounts.
:deadhorse: |
| golfdude | 11-03-2014 01:32 AM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 604452)
True.
Purchasing is not likely items.
It is appears to be services, in my estimation.
Such sites are a risk. paypal will flag any & all accounts.
:deadhorse: | Folks,
My needs and requirements for these PP accounts are very simple and straightforward.
I am a third party seller on many sites like Barnes and Noble, Amazon, Textbookx.com, Ecampus.com etc.
I need to boost my feedback rating on some of these sites. If I purchase repeatedly under only one PP id, it will raise a flag. Thus I want to explore the possibility of purchasing from multiple PP accounts.
I think what I am trying to do falls within the boundaries of stealth operations and is not illegal or shady.
Looking forward for your help.
Thanks. |
Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? Quote:
Originally Posted by golfdude
(Post 604455)
I need to boost my feedback rating on some of these sites. If I purchase repeatedly under only one PP id, it will raise a flag. Thus I want to explore the possibility of purchasing from multiple PP accounts.
I think what I am trying to do falls within the boundaries of stealth operations and is not illegal or shady.
. | Yes, its called Feedback manipulation, and yes....it's shady. |
| unkown5454 | 11-03-2014 01:42 AM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? EB and AZ aren't the only ones aware of shill bidding and feedback manipulation. Don't think this will be a surefire plan and be ready for the high possibility of accounts getting shut down. |
| GreenBean | 11-03-2014 02:06 AM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? Quote:
Originally Posted by golfdude
(Post 604455)
Folks,
My needs and requirements for these PP accounts are very simple and straightforward.
I am a third party seller on many sites like Barnes and Noble, Amazon, Textbookx.com, Ecampus.com etc.
I need to boost my feedback rating on some of these sites. If I purchase repeatedly under only one PP id, it will raise a flag. Thus I want to explore the possibility of purchasing from multiple PP accounts.
I think what I am trying to do falls within the boundaries of stealth operations and is not illegal or shady.
Looking forward for your help.
Thanks. | You are endeavoring to commit what is known as feedback manipulation.
Companies dislike cheaters.
Not feasible as a long term business plan.
:ranger: |
| slokor | 11-03-2014 02:12 AM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? And to completely honest - and no offense - I don't believe you...
That plan makes no sense to me whatsoever. |
| golfdude | 11-03-2014 03:38 AM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 604462)
You are endeavoring to commit what is known as feedback manipulation.
Companies dislike cheaters.
Not feasible as a long term business plan.
:ranger: | I have been selling online for the last 3 years and am also a power seller on Ebay. I am looking to raise my feedback from 94% to 95% on some sites. Now you might ask how does 1% lower feedback matter ? Does 94% feedback make you a bad seller and 95% make you an exceptional seller ?? I don't think so, but some marketplaces see it like that, and I am at risk of my accounts being closed due to some very unreasonable customers.
I do not want to loose my account and 3 years of hardwork just for a fraction of % less in feedback.
Also isn't operating stealth accounts also cheating ?
BTW, my Ebay feedback have been consistently good for the last 3 years and I am a Silver powerseller (98.5%, 1650 ratings from real customers).
Thanks. |
| GreenBean | 11-03-2014 04:10 AM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? If you are at risk, then you need to adjust your business plan.
Buying feedback is not going to cut it.
:ranger: |
| golfdude | 11-03-2014 05:27 AM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? Greenbean, other Folks,
I completely agree that this might be a temporary fix.
I have a specific question:
1) Lets say I purchase a VBA/VCC verified PP account from an authorized seller here. I understand that this PP account or associated VBA/VCC account will not have any funds inside for me to make any purchases.
Then I ask someone to send me funds into my new PP account. That means the PP account is funded and I can make purchases with it.
Is the above correct ?
Thanks. |
| JamesNorth101 | 11-03-2014 06:02 AM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? Your going to need to attatch a VCC to each PP with funds on it.
This entire plan is very ill-conceived though |
| golfdude | 11-03-2014 06:36 AM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? I was wrong in estimating a need of 50 accounts. I might only need 2 or 3. Then what is wrong with my plan in my post above ?
Thanks. |
| JamesNorth101 | 11-03-2014 07:01 AM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? Your still trying to manipulate feedback.
A much better idea would be to sell cheap items fast to give yourself a boost from real buyers. |
| GreenBean | 11-03-2014 09:00 AM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 604484)
If you are at risk, then you need to adjust your business plan.
Buying feedback is not going to cut it.
:ranger: | last try......
Why are YOU failing with your ratings?
What are you doing OR not doing that makes your accounts vulnerable.
Sort that, address that. Write off plans that will create more issues.
That is your priority.
:ranger: |
| Ebayorbust | 11-03-2014 09:20 AM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? Quote:
Originally Posted by golfdude
(Post 604455)
Folks,
My needs and requirements for these PP accounts are very simple and straightforward.
I am a third party seller on many sites like Barnes and Noble, Amazon, Textbookx.com, Ecampus.com etc.
I need to boost my feedback rating on some of these sites. If I purchase repeatedly under only one PP id, it will raise a flag. Thus I want to explore the possibility of purchasing from multiple PP accounts.
I think what I am trying to do falls within the boundaries of stealth operations and is not illegal or shady.
Looking forward for your help.
Thanks. | Don't waste any more time with this idea. Concentrate on increasing your sales and feedback scores with genuine customers. Attempts to manipulate feedback have a tendency to backfire. |
| CCJay | 11-03-2014 12:00 PM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? The amount of money you looking to spend to get these 50 accounts better off selling high amounts of low priced items at cost or even a loss and get the % up. Buying item from 50 accounts is time consuming and not the real answer, if in fact this is your actual goal. |
| captain | 11-03-2014 12:04 PM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? I don't think you say all the story here.... you should not raise such matters inside here and expose a so big forum and so many good willing people in scamming activities.
You try to convince in what.... you thought to travel from India to europe through Antarctic......
I'm not the owner of the place or old member to have at list some more rights here, but if i was.. the only suggestion i was about to give you is to put your golf stick in your ass and get lost from here, but since i'm not ancient member i can't tell you that |
| golfdude | 11-03-2014 12:10 PM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? Folks,
Thanks a lot for all your inputs. Based on your suggestions, I will go with trying to raise my feedback through normal methods like selling low priced items.
Thanks again. |
Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? Quote:
Originally Posted by golfdude
(Post 604555)
Folks,
Thanks a lot for all your inputs. Based on your suggestions, I will go with trying to raise my feedback through normal methods like selling low priced items.
Thanks again. | That sounds like a better plan my friend, trust us...the last thing we want you to do is harm your account(s). If you need to adjust your business then you should. |
Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? OP, how many accounts going so far? |
| Omgoozle | 11-03-2014 01:31 PM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? Quote:
Originally Posted by golfdude
(Post 604455)
I am a third party seller on many sites like Barnes and Noble, Amazon, Textbookx.com, Ecampus.com etc. | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...ingement.shtml Supreme Court to hear arguments in case of student who resold books - CNN.com
edit -
Turns out it's acutally legal and legit. Kirtsaeng v. John Wiley & Sons, Inc. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Quote:
In 2013, the U.S. Supreme Court reversed the Second Circuit and held that Kirtsaeng's sale of lawfully-made copies purchased overseas was protected by the first-sale doctrine. The Court held that the first sale doctrine applies to goods manufactured outside of the United States, and the protections and exceptions offered by the Copyright Act to works "lawfully made under this title" is not limited by geography. Rather, it applies to all copies legally made anywhere, not just in the United States, in accordance with U.S. copyright law. Justice Stephen Breyer wrote the opinion of the court which was joined by five Justices (Roberts, Thomas, Alito, Sotomayor, and Kagan); Justice Elena Kagan wrote a separate concurring opinion, also signed by Samuel Alito; and Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Anthony Kennedy, and Antonin Scalia dissented. Kagan and Alito's concurrence indicated their belief that Congress could change the law in order to strengthen copyright protections.[3]
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As for OP's query - yes, it will work. But you need to be careful how you send yourself funds or you will end up linked and all 50 accounts AND YOUR OWN will go down in flames.
TBH I don't know why everyone is giving this guy a hard time. |
| write | 11-03-2014 02:24 PM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? yep, slow and steady..... is king ^^ |
| GreenBean | 11-03-2014 03:31 PM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? Quote:
Originally Posted by Omgoozle
(Post 604594)
As for OP's query - yes, it will work. But you need to be careful how you send yourself funds or you will end up linked and all 50 accounts AND YOUR OWN will go down in flames.
TBH I don't know why everyone is giving this guy a hard time. | For starters, the forum was created to allow people to get back on ebay AND paypal after they were unfairly treated by those companies.
The OP, by his own words wants to know how to manipulate feedback on other selling platforms.
His main issue is his problems with his customer service not creating mayhem with a flawed plan. If he resolves that. he has no need for this.
I prefer to look a bigger pictures than quick fixes.
:deadhorse: |
| unkown5454 | 11-03-2014 05:55 PM | Re: Need 50 Paypal accounts ? OP has been asking for feedback manipulation help since February 2014.
Basically, I think OP is selling international versions as US versions and customers are negging the sh*t out of him for obvious reasons. So, OP needs to counteract that with f.ake positive feedback.
There's plenty of places selling cheap international books and tricking ignorant people who don't know the difference until they go to class and the pages/information don't match up. | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:49 AM. | |
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