Forum

Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

I was wondering has this happened to many of you ?

The reason for me was I was sent a payment of £35 then tried to spend £10 the warning came up then. I had not had any other payments this was the first.
Maybe its best to wait and make some eBay sales first before spending.

PayPal message

http://i.imgur.com/aAoGMiI.png?1

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

Can happen to any account at any time.

Usually for off eBay transactions it does not happen though

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

Sometimes if your account isn't 100% verified, they also impose the 21 day hold. Typically if you had a phone # / verify it they remove it

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

This is true. Many of my accounts are 100% verified and still have holds.

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

A 21 day hold isn't uncommon, just ship the item out as soon as possible to get your money faster.

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

Completely false here in the US.

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

I have yet to have holds with anything off eBay... though my accounts are always verified and confirmed before I start working with them.

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

Same here, never had an off eBay transaction Placed on Hold, maybe they are taking too many, too high of payments right away triggering them Holds

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

This is a new thing and is a big time problem now I think it might have something to do with divorce

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

That is absolutely True, It is a new thing On new account mainly, It seem to me that after the divorce all payments are being hold for the 21 days, Even on the sales that I am making on my website

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

How to get around it?

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

What are your thoughts on how to get around them?


All up, I have had 2 holds out of over 200 transactions for non-ebay transactions.

One was an incorrect email address.

The other was the buyer's account being flagged.

Like aspkin, I only use verify & confirmed accounts for business.

oh, and the above were one each for paypal USA & paypal UK.

For the USA, which is more relevance for you, working land line phone number on that account from creation.

:ballchain:

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

Working landline sounds interesting i use tracs and get the hold

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

I use TEXTPLUS still and never holds on transactions outside paypal, and no other issues , a lot blame GV, and other phone Apps for problems but I never had any issues

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

I have never seen a notice sent out like this. But up to 21 day hold or confirmation of delivery has been standard for like 5 years now on new PayPal Selling Accounts. It is just something you have to deal with. Long time ago PayPal put something on one of my account called a "Rolling Reserve" they held 10% of all payments I received on a 30 day cycle.

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

has anyone made a paypal lately and it didnt have the 21 day hold?

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

All new accounts have a 21 day hold for the first 90 days assuming there are no issues.

A way to drasticly cut that 21 days down is to use eBay shipping this way they know that the item was shipped because they have the tracking number sent to them directly from the USPS (in the US what ever in yor country) so you can't lie.

Use Priority Mail so it gets deliver in two days. Once the item is delivered your money will be released within 72 hours.

So we just cut the 21 days down to 5. :dance:

If your sale DID NOT come from eBay as OP states you can do the same through PayPal. NEVER ship anything outside of PayPal or eBay as you will wait the 21 days and get scammed by the buyer because they know they can have what ever you sent them for free for 21 days.

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

Guys, this is not good. ALL my new accounts (all stealth, being setup properly, exactly like I have in the past without issue) all have this hold. This is absolutely ridiculous. These are NON EBAY payments people, payments through our actual websites etc.

What can we do?

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

I think the landline thing needs to be explored

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

Does any have a new account within the past week with a working landline on it and if so does it have the holds?

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

I have accounts I made October 17 using Textplus with no holds from transactions outside of eBay

I'll never make my first transaction off eBay and never the first month, I'll usually sell dollar store items the first 3 months on eBay have holds on all them, but the second month like 6 weeks,in I'll make my first paypal transaction and never had one hold

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

Yes but the age on them babies helps a ton im sure

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

Exactly. This is for accounts made within the past ~week -- even with confirmed identity (phone confirm) We are still getting these holds, even without eBay transactions.

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

I recieve off-ebay Paypal payments on accounts i age for one month or more no problem. UK and European accounts.

In history I think I only received off-ebay holds one time(in 100+ accounts) cant remember the probable reason.

I Can't wait until Christmas is over and businrss back to normal :)

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

I think we can disregard history. 21 day holds on off-eBay payments are new, at least to me. I've never had one held before this week and I've had two this week held by PayPal on different accounts. I used to love a cheeky off-eBay payment.

I think PayPal and eBay's split, coupled with the Christmas purge as traditional as stuffing is creating a perfect storm.

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

The split has not yet happened.

It's a tad early to use that as the root of the evil.

:ranger:

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

Somewhat wishful thinking, but do you guys think this could just be because of the holidays? Like maybe they are tightening **** up to prevent fraud during the holidays, but will be good come the new year?

Just wishful(ish) thinking ;)

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

It would be foolish of eBay and PayPal to not have begun preparing months and years before announcing it.

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

Not wishful thinking, certainly a possibility.

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

i made an account this week, fully verified and all. Went to the page were you give them the code over the phone so the 21 day hold isn't implied but now its gone not even a option.

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

It's pretty random most of my personal paypals thats I use for non ebay transactions dont have the 21 day hold. But then I randomly have 1-3 out of dozens that do have the hold.

If your mark it as for services can get the money in 7 days or instant if sender marks it as received.

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

this is true, recently had a euro account go down because i sold but forgot to verify the deposits first

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

I think this is where I went wrong, i sell car parts on forums and of course the first sale is $400 followed by this

"Want to get your money faster?

For current payments, ship your item now and log in to PayPal. Then click See how to get your money faster at the top of the page.You can get your money within 7-14 days.

For future payments, you can remove the 21-day delay. Please complete the following:

Confirm your identity on PayPal. Log in to PayPal and click See how to get your money faster at the top of the page.

Once you've confirmed your identity, you'll also need to establish a successful selling history. Please do the following:

Complete 5 successful sales.
Receive at least 150.00 USD in payments for goods.
Provide great customer experiences! Follow good selling practices for 60 days."

First time this has happened to me in the past 6 months

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

I started using a friends acct that he has had since 2005. He had maybe 4 sales but along time ago. I set up a new paypal for him and have been selling for 2 months and I still have the hold in paypal. All ebay transactions have went well and 100% feedback at 31. Approximately 14 are feedback from sales in the past 2 months.
Ebay has even sent a message raising the limit to 10,000 when it was at 5,000 when I started using it.... but still have paypal hold

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

Yea there has been a lot of weird things going on lately with PayPal, I guess it is because of the split from eBay .
They are making there payment processor more Universal and not just geared to eBay

PayPal was always eBays payment Processor, even though it's been always growing along the way it seemed to be always more concerned with transactions just from eBay in terms of security , lifting holds which used to mainly be all in connection with eBay

I think now we are going to see and are seeing a more independent paypal where every transaction is going to be treated the same whether on or off eBay because the point of the split was so they can break off and grow on their own Now, so now they probably will treat all transactions as equal

What's strange I received the we don't recognize your device just by logging into the account that was the first screen , and I log into this one account a few times daily all from the same everything , even same Ip , I have a Textplus number I used to,create the account 4 months ago, and was able to confirm the account with that number

Also in the last two days on another eBay account where the paypal holds were lifted every 20 transactions I get that email saying u have been paid, and it says that they wil be holding the funds, because they and it gives 4 different reasons, like change in items , change in this and that, and what's weird is i hade 300 transactions on the account all month and nothing has changed

I think,whatever they are doing with their programming is just getting them ready to branch off and expand so we need to re learn the way paypal is going to,operate all over again

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

I'm going to fully verify another one and see what happens. I will most likely ring them up and seeing if they will take the hold off. I've had them take it off both times I called on different stealth accounts.

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

There running new programming and there's probably just a lot of glitches right now triggering a lot of holds and ID verification

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

You got holds removed by calling? I can call and get the first hold removed but after the first they wont remove anymore. I tried the biz acct and no success gets holds just like personal.

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

Could be very true. Might not be time to adjust might be wait until the dust settles and than deal with issues

Re: Questions about the 21 day hold on non ebay payments
 

Yea cause paypal hasn't settled yet they are all over the place some days, but eventually (hopefully) they will get settled after the split and we will be able to see how they are going to operate , than we can get a grip on them and set,up,a,plan