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| thedarkknight | 01-08-2015 07:57 PM | how much can a PayPal account handle? I know PayPal limits accounts as they feel and its best to take it slow when first selling, but just how much can a account actually take.
Say for example the account is a genuine account all details on it are real, its not got much trading history and is around 4 years old what are the chances it would be limited as payments (from invoices sent from PayPal) arrive in the ball park of between 100- 400 twice a week.
Is this considered a lot by PayPal? |
| Cracker100 | 01-08-2015 08:04 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? One can never tell. I had a aged account for 4 years that I made over 10k a month on. I withdrew amounts ranging from 1k to 5k at a time. As soon as I got comfortable I started to leave more money in there and all of a sudden they limited my account for no reason.
This was my personal account. sent every document they asked for and then they turn around and tell me that my business is to risky. LOL
Just remember to leave as little as possible in your account at any time. |
| danshan | 01-08-2015 08:06 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Again cracker i agree but if you pump and dump accts and they have zeros they get limited quicker i think this but have no proof |
| Cracker100 | 01-08-2015 08:14 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by danshan
(Post 629258)
Again cracker i agree but if you pump and dump accts and they have zeros they get limited quicker i think this but have no proof | I did great with my account I mentioned until they shut me down. Then I found this forum and bought accounts and tried the pump and dump method and it never lasted more then a few months till I was down again.
I know it is a pain in the ass to have so many accounts but that really is the only sure-fire way to keep your accounts going and be smiling everyday instead
freaking out about losing accounts and money. |
| thedarkknight | 01-08-2015 08:24 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by danshan
(Post 629258)
Again cracker i agree but if you pump and dump accts and they have zeros they get limited quicker i think this but have no proof | By pump and dump do you mean accept a lot of money then withdraw all that money? |
| Cracker100 | 01-08-2015 08:28 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by thedarkknight
(Post 629265)
By pump and dump do you mean accept a lot of money then withdraw all that money? | By pump and dump I mean getting accounts and then selling on them like crazy and withdrawing the money because you are sure you will get shutdown.
I have tried that way more then once and other people here have to and it does not work. |
| thedarkknight | 01-08-2015 08:35 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by Cracker100
(Post 629257)
One can never tell. I had a aged account for 4 years that I made over 10k a month on. I withdrew amounts ranging from 1k to 5k at a time. As soon as I got comfortable I started to leave more money in there and all of a sudden they limited my account for no reason.
This was my personal account. sent every document they asked for and then they turn around and tell me that my business is to risky. LOL
Just remember to leave as little as possible in your account at any time. | Do you mind if I ask what area your business was in? |
| Cracker100 | 01-08-2015 08:51 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by thedarkknight
(Post 629267)
Do you mind if I ask what area your business was in? | Sorry, but yes I do. I will never tell anyone that since my competition is extremely low.:nono: |
| thedarkknight | 01-08-2015 09:02 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by Cracker100
(Post 629279)
Sorry, but yes I do. I will never tell anyone that since my competition is extremely low.:nono: | Haha, fair enough. |
| thedarkknight | 01-09-2015 10:55 AM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Any other opinions? |
| yankee | 01-09-2015 11:06 AM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Spread sales. Max out an account and let it rest. Is is 1600 Euros? Make sure whatever the threshold is to not cross it by using multiple accounts. Especially today with the new paypal crackdown in the UK. |
| thedarkknight | 01-09-2015 01:37 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 629492)
Spread sales. Max out an account and let it rest. Is is 1600 Euros? Make sure whatever the threshold is to not cross it by using multiple accounts. Especially today with the new paypal crackdown in the UK. | Its my personal all real details account and in pounds. |
| yankee | 01-09-2015 01:45 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by thedarkknight
(Post 629538)
Its my personal all real details account and in pounds. | I see, well then, if everything is 100% clear and clean and aged with no issues, in my experience, if you are not doing anything risky, you can sell pretty much any amount you want.
ANYTHING risky at all and I would sell on stealth or not at all. |
| thedarkknight | 01-09-2015 03:44 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 629539)
I see, well then, if everything is 100% clear and clean and aged with no issues, in my experience, if you are not doing anything risky, you can sell pretty much any amount you want.
ANYTHING risky at all and I would sell on stealth or not at all. | Thanks, is that the same when mostly used outside eBay, for sending invoices and such? |
| GreenBean | 01-09-2015 03:48 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by thedarkknight
(Post 629254)
I know PayPal limits accounts as they feel and its best to take it slow when first selling, but just how much can a account actually take.
Say for example the account is a genuine account all details on it are real, its not got much trading history and is around 4 years old what are the chances it would be limited as payments (from invoices sent from PayPal) arrive in the ball park of between 100- 400 twice a week.
Is this considered a lot by PayPal? | An account can take as much as paypal lets it take
Not sensible to give a ball park figure even with your example.
Aim to have a paypal account made well enough to function.
imo, for the UK that would mean verified & confirmed even before there was any type of transaction.
paypal is still going to look at limiting accounts for off ebay transactions as well.
:uk: |
| danshan | 01-09-2015 03:49 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 629539)
I see, well then, if everything is 100% clear and clean and aged with no issues, in my experience, if you are not doing anything risky, you can sell pretty much any amount you want.
ANYTHING risky at all and I would sell on stealth or not at all. | Now that is funny |
| yankee | 01-09-2015 04:01 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by danshan
(Post 629591)
Now that is funny | Most of use dont loose 50% of the accounts like you state. Because you have sucky business skills or practices does not mean the rest of us do. Your sentiments are pathetic at best, |
| GreenBean | 01-09-2015 04:13 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Not again today. FFS.
:mad: |
| danshan | 01-09-2015 04:36 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Ok will someone other than me tell this clown you cannot go around on aged steslth accts banging out 50k payments out unless the acct has similar transaction history and is fully verified znd has an ein on it that has already been reviewed and even than it is still iffy |
| yankee | 01-09-2015 04:38 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by danshan
(Post 629604)
Ok will someone other than me tell this clown you cannot go around on aged steslth accts banging out 50k payments out unless the acct has similar transaction history and is fully verified znd has an ein on it that has already been reviewed and even than it is still iffy | Can you read? Seriously?
What the hell is wrong with you? You state an EIN when we are talking about a fully verified UK account.
Educate yourself. Stop spreading your shobby and IGNORANT crap, Grow up.Get Educated and experince.
The fact you state 50% of your accounts get limitted discredits any crap that spews from your keyboard. Clearly you are doing EVERYTHING wrong at that rate. |
| danshan | 01-09-2015 04:39 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? I agree I am a moron. Ok people here is some advice buy an aged acct throw an ein on it and starting knocking down 20k a day, yes that is the plan yankee does it everyday selling fishing lures |
| aking | 01-09-2015 05:02 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? :pop2: :pop2: |
| GreenBean | 01-09-2015 05:17 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? |
| danshan | 01-09-2015 05:18 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? It is bs and everyone knows it just scared to call it |
| yankee | 01-09-2015 05:18 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 629616)
| I can't have it so nobody can LOL |
| danshan | 01-09-2015 05:19 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Arent you suppose to be doing your aquisition of mcdonalds today and paying for the aquisition with your stealth money you made today on your 30 day old stealth acct? |
| yankee | 01-09-2015 05:24 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Again, childish and ignorant comments by the 50% limited papal account owner.
Looks good on ya. Shows your intelligence. |
| danshan | 01-09-2015 05:28 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? I never claimed to have a high iq! What are you talking about? What is ignorant about my comments? Please clarify. Please tell the rest of us how you have 60 day aged accounts and you sell 20k a day on them and have never had one closed or limited? Please tell maybe you have to be smarter than me to understand that or maybe dumb people like me need to hear it 3 times to believe it. |
| yankee | 01-09-2015 05:32 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by danshan
(Post 629621)
I never claimed to have a high iq! What are you talking about? What is ignorant about my comments? Please clarify. Please tell the rest of us how you have 60 day aged accounts and you sell 20k a day on them and have never had one closed or limited? Please tell maybe you have to be smarter than me to understand that or maybe dumb people like me need to hear it 3 times to believe it. | Read my threads...AND PMs.
Those accounts have no EIN and are only used for a week. Well discussed.
I would be ASHAMED if I lost 50% of my accounts. Or even more that a few hear or there.
Fortunately I have only lost one and have never personally lost a PayPal account. Maybe I am lucky or maybe I don't sell crap and have good business practices.
With what you state, I can only assume you do most everything wrong, but who knows. Maybe you are just unlucky. Maybe it is Karma. Who knows... |
| danshan | 01-09-2015 05:34 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Details buddy details on your 15-20k a day accounts that you have never had a paypal limited |
| yankee | 01-09-2015 05:35 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? One thing that is absolute FACT is that this constant banter of, "I can't do it, so nobody can" banter of yours the past few weeks, especially days is counter productive of this forum. |
| yankee | 01-09-2015 05:37 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by danshan
(Post 629623)
Details buddy details on your 15-20k a day accounts that you have never had a paypal limited | We have gone over this many times.
Read your stupid junk from yesterday. How many more details do you need? Read and look at copy/Paste of my threads about unique paypal holds.
No secrets. Dmshark25 and myself have shared these things on this forum fairly openly.
You seem jealous. Sorry if you are not capable. I have tried to help you. At least in PM, you are not an ignorant ass. |
| danshan | 01-09-2015 05:39 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Yeah i know talk around it lol |
| danshan | 01-09-2015 05:40 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Dmshark he is dropping your name are you also suggesting to new members to drop 20k a day on a new account? |
| yankee | 01-09-2015 05:45 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by danshan
(Post 629628)
Dmshark he is dropping your name are you also suggesting to new members to drop 20k a day on a new account? | How many more times does this have to be discussed?
Seriously, are you mentally not capable of comprehending English? or do you lack the ability to remember? rhetorical.
Basically every statement you make is redundant and childish. Do you have anything new and structural to add?
Lets stop this stupid jealousy and maybe add something constructive. |
| danshan | 01-09-2015 05:47 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? I think you should stop going around the forum giving people bad bad advice. Its ok to keep telling people how great you are i enjoy those posts but the blatantly bad advice avoid that. Hey how can you give advice on the forum when you never had an acct limited? |
| yankee | 01-09-2015 05:51 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by danshan
(Post 629632)
I think you should stop going around the forum giving people bad bad advice. Its ok to keep telling people how great you are i enjoy those posts but the blatantly bad advice avoid that. Hey how can you give advice on the forum when you never had an acct limited? | Your lack of intelligence holds you back from comprehending or understanding.
I am going to be the bigger man and bow out. I am no longer going to argue with a fool.
EDIT: NO LONGER instead not going to |
| danshan | 01-09-2015 05:52 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? I would stop now too. I hope the true story is starting to show to the forum a little now |
| jeffweico | 01-09-2015 05:53 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? I can say from my experience with PayPal and other merchant account providers (real ones) that whenever you reach $5,000 per month in sales, that is when they start a process called "underwriting" which is a form of risk management.
Underwriting may include credit and identity checks, business verification, etc. How the industry came to that figure, I don't know. But if you don't believe me, just call a merchant account provider and tell them you are looking for a provider and want to know how long the approval process takes and that you expect $7,000 per month in sales. They will most likely tell you it will be a few days. Ask them why it takes so long and they will likely tell you that since you have such a high volume in monthly sales, your account has to go through the underwriting process first.
Real world merchants don't have this problem. They figure there is a limited amount of fraud that can be committed since customers leave with their items at the time of the charge. But they also have to go through underwriting, it is just not as stringent as for online merchants.
Now, when it comes to PayPal, if they feel your items are a risk, this process could happen a lot earlier. I would be VERY NERVOUS about going over $2,000 per month on an account selling DVD's, or anything else high risk.
Of course, the longer your track record with them is, the less stringent their underwriting department will be with you. Underwriting departments like to see steady business sales that increase over time, they want the owner to have assets and good credit, a history of very few chargebacks, no complaints of fraud or counterfeit merchandise, etc.
Keep in mind I am speaking GENRALLY here and not specifically to anyone's particular situation. It is just like with suppliers. If you own a restaurant that is new, suppliers will probably want cash on delivery. If you have been doing business with them for awhile and they can see you are successful, they will give you a line of credit.
With online businesses, they are very easy and cheap to set up. So they tend to be riskier for merchant account providers. Even with the best of intentions, things can go south quickly. Not everyone understands businesses and how they work. The value of inventory can decline over time (just think of electronics as a good example), you have to pay attention to things like profit margins, the time value of money, you have to understand how consumer sentiment can affect your businesses (and it is different for different businesses, depending on what they sell), and a lot of other factors. Unfortunately, a lot of people don't have any knowledge of these things. I can work out, on paper, how anyone can buy inventory and sell on eBay, becoming a millionaire in 6 months to a year. But that only works ON PAPER! Because in the real world, problems come up. On paper, everything is perfect. |
| danshan | 01-09-2015 05:57 PM | Re: how much can a PayPal account handle? Very well written and 100% reasonable. I think that any merchant account provider would be out of business in a day if they let huge amounts of transactions go through on new or old accts that they did not have history with. Good good post, thank you | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:47 PM. | |
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