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Default USA stealth accts - IP geographic locale vs PP acct address

I haven't tried making stealths from one IP area (say Los Angeles) but having a paypal account with an address in a different state, or maybe in the same state, but just far from the city where the IP address originates

Is this problematic? I'm sure many have tried this sort of this.

Seems I have read on here you shouldn't go further than "X number of miles from the city where the IP resolves to"

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Seems I have read on here you shouldn't go further than "X number of miles from the city where the IP resolves to"

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That got well and truly dispelled ages ago, blockhead.

So long as your IP is within the USA, there should be little problems.

To set your mind at ease, I have WA State accounts that often show the IP geo-location to be in the Mid-West.

Since the accounts have user accounts, cookies etc, I have no problems.

I have Eastern seaboard accounts that have shown the location to be in New Mexico. Again, no problems.

Hope this helps you.

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Default Re: USA stealth accts - IP geographic locale vs PP acct address

ooooppps... re-read your thread title.

Expand on that paypal? Is it an older account and has it been near ebay before?

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Default Re: USA stealth accts - IP geographic locale vs PP acct address

i dont mess with ebay....the thread itself is more of a general question for future stealths...


my follow up question...

"To set your mind at ease, I have WA State accounts that often show the IP geo-location to be in the Mid-West."


So this goes for logging into accounts, what about at the point of creating an account? IP locale matter? (as long as we are talking within the USA)
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Don't be so sure. For about three months (until the last few weeks), all new accounts must have matching IP's and address's. They might have been testing something or it must a 12 week glitch, but if it didn't match, accounts went down or you had to call.
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Default Re: USA stealth accts - IP geographic locale vs PP acct address

I've never had a problem with ip location not matching account location, as long as same country you should be fine

geo-location tracking in general is not always super accurate ebay knows this so they cant really be so picky on making sure it matches
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Default Re: USA stealth accts - IP geographic locale vs PP acct address

I also have never had an issue due to my IP not matching the state it was created in.
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Default Re: USA stealth accts - IP geographic locale vs PP acct address

Wait a moment here, seasoned account sellers make the same statements. They match my experiences.
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Default Re: USA stealth accts - IP geographic locale vs PP acct address

I have accounts set up in TX (for example) and I use MA IP all the time for them - no issues
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Default Re: USA stealth accts - IP geographic locale vs PP acct address

I agree with the above statements - generally speaking.
That being said I prefer to be very conservative myself by matching the state in which the account was created. A simple enough thing to do when using dial up as I do.
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Default Re: USA stealth accts - IP geographic locale vs PP acct address

Greenbean IS correct. However, I always try to match my IP locations to where my accounts are. I'm too paranoid not to.

But the geographical accuracy of these IP addresses has been terrible, at best, for years now. In the beginning, when companies got blocks of IP's, they would show up in the city and state of where the companies were registered. But as IP addresses started changing hands, they are updated less and less frequently. There is nothing about an IP address in and of itself that transmits location information, it all depends on its listing in the IP database.
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Default Re: USA stealth accts - IP geographic locale vs PP acct address

as long as your IP is in the USA I agree aswell.
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And I'm giving people my experience. Numerous accounts have gotten suspended the last few months or I needed to call in. Everytime they told me it was because my IP address didn't match my address. Everytime.
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And I'm giving people my experience. Numerous accounts have gotten suspended the last few months or I needed to call in. Everytime they told me it was because my IP address didn't match my address. Everytime.
IF SO, Im surprised they would even tell you...
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Why? If you're account is limited or you can't pay an invoice, they tell you what reason is.
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And I'm giving people my experience. Numerous accounts have gotten suspended the last few months or I needed to call in. Everytime they told me it was because my IP address didn't match my address. Everytime.
If the majority of your sales are off ebay, then you may have a point.

I am referring to ebay AND paypal accounts that are used together.

What is the case with you?

Seriously if your sales are not on ebay then the issue differs.
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They are not Ebay. I run my business and use paypal as my processor.
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as long as your IP is in the USA I agree aswell.
Been working few California accounts with NY IP as well
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They are not Ebay. I run my business and use paypal as my processor.
Then like I said, issues may differ.

I repeat all of the posts relate to paypal and ebay joint usuage. paypal has some layer of protection there.


Sorry but there is every chance your own methods are causing the issues.

That's for another thread though.

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And I'm giving people my experience. Numerous accounts have gotten suspended the last few months or I needed to call in. Everytime they told me it was because my IP address didn't match my address. Everytime.
I heard that excuse from a rep (though this was on eBay) for the first time recently. I was able to successfully talk my way out of it because, well, at the end of the day, the IP location not matching is one of the weakest pieces of evidence that they can use against you. For example, I just checked the IP location from one of my hotspots and it says California. I'm on the east coast.

It may be a reason for them to look deeper into your account(s) but they shouldn't base their final decision off of it (key word being "shouldn't" -- this is eBay/Paypal after all). If that really is a major cause of concern for them, they may think someone else other than the original account owner is using the account - that's my best guess.
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Default Re: USA stealth accts - IP geographic locale vs PP acct address

This is a perfect example of why I believe in following the old methods with NO shortcuts. I make sure everything matches and all my ducks are in a row. That avoids the whole issue to begin with. And I rarely lose accounts.
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