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| alphaversa | 12-30-2008 11:51 AM | Bank of America caused issues for me when used with PayPal A few weeks ago I came in here after ING shut all my accounts down. It seems they didn't like payments coming from Paypal in different alias names to my ING account.
I was told by some in here that Bank of America did not care about this. However, I just had all 9 of my Bank of America accounts closed for the SAME REASON ING GAVE!!!
I'm going to try WAMU next. This is ridiculous.
Is anyone else having problems with Banks shutting them down because money is being transferred like this? Unbelievable. |
| coopster72 | 12-30-2008 12:23 PM | My BOA accounts are fine and had a deposit Friday from Paypal sent under a different name. I only have 2 checking and 1 savings. All being used by Paypal under different names.
Maybe it was the 9 accounts you had with them. I mean who legitimately has 9 accounts at a bank? I'm sure some banks it's overlooked but BOA is on their game. Did you by chance apply for the 10th account recently?
Maybe 9 is the limit with them before you show up on some fraud list. Then someone looks up your account, sees the random transfers from Paypal all under different names and cancels them all.
There are sooooooooo many banks out there that you don't need to put all your eggs in one basket. Get a few local accounts and then get 2-3 more from the bank's website.
That's just assuming you have the ability and the banks in your area. |
| philly387 | 12-30-2008 12:30 PM | I used Bank of America fine for the past couple months. I only have one account with them. Not really sure why people need 9 checking and savings accounts though...lol |
| TMiles | 12-30-2008 12:46 PM | I have to agree with Coopster72. Jadester, take some time to reflect on what you are doing. To immediately open nine accounts with one institution and start funneling money into them all from Paypal looks very suspicious.
Put yourself in the banks place. Why in the world would one person need nine accounts. This is how money gets laundered by crooks.... |
| alphaversa | 12-30-2008 01:17 PM | I know for a fact that a lot of people here have way more than 9 ebay accounts. You have to have a different bank account for each paypal/ebay account. If you have 9 ebay accounts you will need 9 bank accounts. |
| philly387 | 12-30-2008 01:35 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by jadester714
(Post 70708)
I know for a fact that a lot of people here have way more than 9 ebay accounts. You have to have a different bank account for each paypal/ebay account. If you have 9 ebay accounts you will need 9 bank accounts. | Yes that is correct. But 9 at one time? I use 2 at the most at one time to sell hundereds of items without a problem. I hope you get everything worked out though. |
| TMiles | 12-30-2008 01:43 PM | You are correct. Some people may have nine bank accounts and nine eBay/PayPal accounts. They DO NOT open them all at once. Please take a deep breath and relax. We are trying to help.
Opening nine accounts at the same bank at the same time is a BIG indicator of fraud/money laundering. This is the banks rules and has nothing to do with Ebay/Paypal. Open two or three at BOA, two or three at WAMU, two or three at Wells Fargo and so on...
DO NOT open them all at once. DO NOT open them at the same location. Slow and easy and stay under the radar. |
| alphaversa | 12-30-2008 01:56 PM | Where did I say I opened all 9 at once? I said I started opening the accounts several weeks ago. I have never opened more than 1 account per day.
Also, due to sales volume, I need to have a lot of accounts open to be able to sell without being harassed or restricted by ebay/paypal. |
| philly387 | 12-30-2008 02:01 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by jadester714
(Post 70714)
Where did I say I opened all 9 at once? I said I started opening the accounts several weeks ago. I have never opened more than 1 account per day.
Also, due to sales volume, I need to have a lot of accounts open to be able to sell without being harassed or restricted by ebay/paypal. | Opening nine new accounts within a couple months would seem a little suspicious to me though. But I agree with miles on this one, open a few at different banks. |
| Here We Go Again | 12-30-2008 03:37 PM | I use BOA every day for my Paypal deposits.
I have been using them for over 1.5 years with No problems.
I have had more then 20 different accounts with NO problems.
I currently have 11 checking & 2 Savings accounts that are running WONDERFULLY. The only thing I can think of that has caused you problems is....- You opened them to fast. = Looks like Bank Fraud to them
- You ran to much money through them to fast. = Looks like money laundering to them.
- You used personal information that was false. = Patriotic Act Violation
- You used your own personal information that was altered. = Patriotic Act Violation
Which point above did you qualify for? |
| alphaversa | 12-30-2008 03:59 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Here We Go Again
(Post 70720)
I use BOA every day for my Paypal deposits.
I have been using them for over 1.5 years with No problems.
I have had more then 20 different accounts with NO problems.
I currently have 11 checking & 2 Savings accounts that are running WONDERFULLY. The only thing I can think of that has caused you problems is....- You opened them to fast. = Looks like Bank Fraud to them
- You ran to much money through them to fast. = Looks like money laundering to them.
- You used personal information that was false. = Patriotic Act Violation
- You used your own personal information that was altered. = Patriotic Act Violation
Which point above did you qualify for? | Well, option 3 and 4 are definitely not applicable to me. Define too fast or too much money?
I think I'm gonna try my local credit union and see how that goes. |
| GreenBean | 12-30-2008 04:09 PM | jadester, I have asked you this several times before and never had an answer. Last time I am going to ask as it is getting silly (for me) to repeat the question. Why have you not chosen to have a merchant account? We all know the problems with paypal/banks. When are you going to realize what you MIGHT need to do?:rolleyes: |
| alphaversa | 12-30-2008 04:16 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 70722)
jadester, I have asked you this several times before and never had an answer. Last time I am going to ask as it is getting silly (for me) to repeat the question. Why have you not chosen to have a merchant account? We all know the problems with paypal/banks. When are you going to realize what you MIGHT need to do?:rolleyes: | I don't recall seeing this question before. I have tried to open a merchant account before. However, I need to be able to accept around $50,000 a month and can't qualify for that much. Suggestions? |
| Here We Go Again | 12-30-2008 04:25 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by jadester714
(Post 70724)
I need to be able to accept around $50,000 a month | Quote:
Originally Posted by jadester714
(Post 70721)
Define too fast or too much money? | If you are trying to accept 50K a month into a few bank accounts and then move it out into different accounts that will look like money laundering to the bank in a heart beat.
It will look like money laundering to the Federal Government also.
You really need to re-think your Paypal situation and get AWAY from Paypal.
Get a Merch Account.
Get a small Merch account. Run 20K-30K a month through it to start off.
If you do not have a business license you are going to get tagged for money laundering.
Remember the US Government watches bank accounts these days. Since the Patriot Act went into effect.
They track the movement of large sums of money through the banking system.
Do not come back here and say you were never warned..... |
| GreenBean | 12-30-2008 04:34 PM | ^^^^ Agreed. There is a post where jadester714 says that $60,000 has run through the various accounts. The truth and the whole truth is not being told here. The OP has had others suggest this in other posts.;)
Anyone listing 1300 items should be better prepared to get their moola. That,imo, means no paypal.:rolleyes:
End of. |
| TMiles | 12-30-2008 06:10 PM | Good God Almighty, my head is spinning. Jadester, you need to learn to receive help. 9 accounts, one a day, is in effect opening all at once in the banks' eyes. Again, relax and learn.
If you truly are skilled enough to be selling $50 to 60k a month, then learn the rules of finance and banking.
Do some research on Google and put yourself in the banks' position. As a banking manager, would you not find it suspicious that someone opens nine accounts in nine days....
WOW, in cases like this, the feds might be taking a serious look at you.... |
| Here We Go Again | 12-30-2008 06:18 PM | Just to END the Jadester714 miss information that is being posted everywhere......
There is NOTHING wrong with Bank Of America.
It works just fine for 98.7% of the people who use them CORRECTLY for their Paypal accounts.
Personally I use them EVERYDAY to accept deposits from my many Stealth Paypal accounts.
No matter what anyone here tries to tell you...
ING does NOT work with Paypal to accept deposits from a Paypal Stealth Account. What banks work with Stealth?
Bank Of America
WAMU
Wells Fargo
I know these work from personal experience. |
| coopster72 | 12-30-2008 07:10 PM | Wachovia and BB&T work too |
| philly387 | 12-30-2008 07:16 PM | Chase works also |
| doughboykilla | 12-30-2008 09:37 PM | Did BOA give u the remining amount in your account or did they close your accounts and keep the money that was in it like ing did with me?
Its probly best to use your real name on paypal so that away they cant have any excuse to close you cause useing alias's dose make it look like your money laundering when its a lot of money going into the account with other peoples names on it.
U might be able to use 3 names with all the same last names as your and just rotate them on paypal and if you got a common name they could never know your the same person. And if BOA start asking ?'s just make out like you let your family members or wife and kids use your accounts as well. |
| yaw1800 | 12-30-2008 10:21 PM | Capital One works as well. And the withdrawal timing is great. On a few occasions i got the funds next day, true story |
| Exeneva | 12-30-2008 11:09 PM | But last I heard, Capital One will call you if the names don't match.
Is this not true? |
| happyman05 | 12-31-2008 03:24 AM | Just a quick question: I'm not an expert on bank transfer procedures and protocols, and maybe I'm not understanding some basic premise of this discussion... but how exactly are "names" associated with PayPal transfers into a bank account? From what I can tell on my online statement (Bank of America checking), Paypal transfers are just identified as "TRANSFER PAYPAL 5V3223HGK3BJZ" -- there is no indication of the name on the related PayPal account that the funds are coming from. Could someone please confirm this or explain the idea that different names on PP and bank account are causing the problems? Thanks! |
| GreenBean | 12-31-2008 03:43 AM | Re-read posts 7 & 14 by HWGA. Think hard. Then read the thread again.;) |
| yaw1800 | 12-31-2008 07:12 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Exeneva
(Post 70767)
But last I heard, Capital One will call you if the names don't match.
Is this not true? |
To this day they have not called me |
| alphaversa | 12-31-2008 02:04 PM | I used ING successfully from June to November without a single glitch. I opened the accounts the same way I opened the BofA accounts. They never flagged me or anything for having lots of accounts. They finally stopped me because the names didn't match my name from Paypal.
Also, the title of this thread was edited without my approval. Kinda reeks of censorship. |
| philly387 | 12-31-2008 03:31 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Modee
(Post 70799)
That is good to know because Chase took over Washington Mutual. | Yeah I opened the account about 2 months ago and have no used it until recently. I've been into the bank a few times to withdraw money that was deposited by my paypal account without any questions asked and I have used the ATM plenty of times. So it definitely works :) No phone calls either. |
| Here We Go Again | 12-31-2008 06:34 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by jadester714
(Post 70803)
I used ING successfully from June to November without a single glitch.
They finally stopped me because the names didn't match my name from Paypal. | We have been saying that ING will NOT work for Paypal for a while now. Quote:
Originally Posted by jadester714
(Post 70803)
Also, the title of this thread was edited without my approval.
Kinda reeks of censorship. | No, it is called a Moderator doing their job.
If you don't like the way things are done here you are more than welcome to LEAVE of your own free will. |
| alphaversa | 12-31-2008 07:07 PM | Hmm...I never said ING was the answer. I merely stated that it worked fine for me for about 6 months. That is a statement of fact. I do find it funny that someone is lecturing me on ING who has never used the service.
To whoever altered the name of this thread... it does not accurately reflect my original message. BofA is not giving me problems with my Paypal account. My Paypal accounts that were linked to BofA are all working fine. I will be adding new bank accounts to them next week. The problem is that BofA closed MY BANK ACCOUNTS. |
| klligreen323 | 01-03-2009 08:58 PM | Boa gave out real name and address I had a problem with BOA.
I had 4 accounts with them. Some I had never used.
Pay Pal contacted them and asked them the name on that
checking account which of course was not he same.
I did not think they could give out that info. |
| alphaversa | 01-04-2009 08:43 PM | You must be apart of the 1.3% who had problems with BofA. We are but a very small minority! :) |
| GreenBean | 01-04-2009 11:57 PM | The 1.3% of the users having troubles have only made statements that BoA alledgedly gives troubles. Take the statement 'paypal contacted them and asked the name': how was this done? Where are the records? Unless there is more proof, it's hearsay at the most.
Sure an inconvenience but their role in the problem must be taken into account first. | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:10 PM. | |
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