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iloveghosts 05-25-2018 04:33 AM

Re: MAC address detection by eb/pp.. Possible?
 
https://patents.google.com/patent/US9596238

In case, you need more information check this out!

iloveghosts 05-25-2018 04:34 AM

Re: MAC address detection by eb/pp.. Possible?
 
Holy moly. Patent was issued for Paypal. I just found that out!

BiN4RY 05-25-2018 01:07 PM

Re: MAC address detection by eb/pp.. Possible?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iloveghosts (Post 922044)
https://patents.google.com/patent/US9596238

In case, you need more information check this out!

Do you ever read what you post, or do you always assume you know what an article is about just by reading the title alone?

This patent describes how your network latency (aka ping), not system clock, can be used to estimate your rough geographic location. If Paypal is in the US and you claim to be in the US, an average network latency of 500ms between you and Paypal indicates you may not be in the US after all.

This concept is nothing new, and will never be used as a strong indicator for tracking since it's also not reliable/consistent. A congested network route will also throw off your network latency, for example.

I'd expect you know about computers a lot better than this for someone that has a "PhD in Browser Fingerprinting".

iloveghosts 05-25-2018 01:47 PM

Re: MAC address detection by eb/pp.. Possible?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BiN4RY (Post 922098)
Do you ever read what you post, or do you always assume you know what an article is about just by reading the title alone?

This patent describes how your network latency (aka ping), not system clock, can be used to estimate your rough geographic location. If Paypal is in the US and you claim to be in the US, an average network latency of 500ms between you and Paypal indicates you may not be in the US after all.

This concept is nothing new, and will never be used as a strong indicator for tracking since it's also not reliable/consistent. A congested network route will also throw off your network latency, for example.

I'd expect you know about computers a lot better than this for someone that has a "PhD in Browser Fingerprinting".

I highly doubt your reading skills. That patent talk about clock drift, clock skew, and network latency. So three things, They use TCP/ICMP Clock Skew and clock drift on Machine Plus they measuring network latency using one of following ways,

1. Time from the source sending a packet to the destination receiving it
2. Round-trip Time (the one-way latency from source to destination plus the one-way latency from the destination back to the source)


Clock Skew, Clock Drift, Network Latency are three different things and not related to each other.


To me, you are ignorant who don't want to believe in Advanced Fingerprinting. I honestly tell everyone that this guy is selfish, he does not want the truth to go out.

iloveghosts 05-25-2018 01:50 PM

Re: MAC address detection by eb/pp.. Possible?
 
And I found a working tool to spoof TCP fingerprint. Anyone can use this "Fingerprint F u c k e r" Tool to edit TCP fingerprint to prevent leaks.

BiN4RY 05-25-2018 01:53 PM

Re: MAC address detection by eb/pp.. Possible?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iloveghosts (Post 922103)
1. Time from the source sending a packet to the destination receiving it
2. Round-trip Time (the one-way latency from source to destination plus the one-way latency from the destination back to the source)

AKA PING, as I said :rolleyes:

Why do I even bother helping you at this point?

iloveghosts 05-25-2018 01:54 PM

Re: MAC address detection by eb/pp.. Possible?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BiN4RY (Post 922106)
AKA PING, as I said :rolleyes:

Why do I even bother helping you at this point

And,

Clock Skew, Clock Drift, Network Latency are three different things and not related to each other.

iloveghosts 05-25-2018 01:58 PM

Re: MAC address detection by eb/pp.. Possible?
 
https://www.rapid7.com/db/vulnerabil...-tcp-timestamp

The remote host responded with a TCP timestamp. The TCP timestamp response can be used to approximate the remote host's uptime, potentially aiding in further attacks. Additionally, some operating systems can be fingerprinted based on the behavior of their TCP timestamps.

Live Demo at witch.valdikss.org.ru and it got my uptime exactly, note that this database not updated since 2014 so Commerical tools much better than WITCH.

iloveghosts 05-25-2018 02:02 PM

Re: MAC address detection by eb/pp.. Possible?
 
This WITCH is based on p0f. p0f capabilities include:

Measurement of system uptime ,network hookup, distance (including topology behind NAT or packet filters)

user language preferences

automated detection of connection sharing / NAT, load balancing, and application-level proxying setups.


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