| |  | | | vmdetection | 04-30-2020 01:12 PM | Shipping too expensive, not viable. Hi, shipping costs are too high, how are people managing with such high prices? 20 usd per kg is ridiculous and I've checked multiple agents that are the middleman between Chinese ecommerce websites and shipping to you directly.
I've found profitable products but I have to use a middleman/agent since these sellers don't ship to western countries as they get enough business domestically in china to not bother with the hassle. I've checked so many agents/middlemen who will have the product shipped to their own warehouse and then they will ship it to me but the price is simply too much for shipping, not to mention their own fee which isn't low either, which results in no profit at all.
What is the cheapest way I can ship products from Taobao,1688 to Europe at a reasonable cost so i'm left with profit. Alibaba/AliExpress prices are 5x higher and hundreds of people already selling at the same price at Alibaba/AliExpress since they're dropshipping so that's not viable either. |
| phaz0rz | 04-30-2020 01:27 PM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. $20/kg? I just got this quote this morning (in RMB) https://i.postimg.cc/jSHPVPmz/Untitled.png
So about $8.50/kg + $1.50 per shipment with DHL, or $11.61/kg with UPS. I'm just using my supplier's agent. :noidea:
Either way there's nothing we can do other than hope shipping prices come back down soon if they're too high for you now. |
| vmdetection | 04-30-2020 01:57 PM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 1089958)
$20/kg? I just got this quote this morning (in RMB) https://i.postimg.cc/jSHPVPmz/Untitled.png
So about $8.50/kg + $1.50 per shipment with DHL, or $11.61/kg with UPS. I'm just using my supplier's agent. :noidea:
Either way there's nothing we can do other than hope shipping prices come back down soon if they're too high for you now. | Where did you get this quote? my quotes are nowhere near this, double this. |
| prodigyace | 04-30-2020 02:15 PM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. Yo send me your forwarders info lol.
Ask your supplier if he is willing to share his forwarders contact info, ill send his shipper business and im sure a lot of people on here would be willing as well |
| phaz0rz | 04-30-2020 02:51 PM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. I didn't know I was so privileged, lol. I asked my supplier what it's costing them to ship currently and that's what they said. I don't handle anything on the China side.. my supplier/their agent does all of that.
I don't know if it makes any difference but that rate is for 21kg+ shipments and my orders usually consist of 5 or 6 shipments that size.
It's been really slow. This week it's down to 5-6 days before our DHL shipments are picked up. For the past month it's been more like 2 weeks. Are you guys paying more for faster processing? |
| newstart123 | 04-30-2020 03:08 PM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. Quote:
Originally Posted by vmdetection
(Post 1089952)
Hi, shipping costs are too high, how are people managing with such high prices? 20 usd per kg is ridiculous and I've checked multiple agents that are the middleman between Chinese ecommerce websites and shipping to you directly.
I've found profitable products but I have to use a middleman/agent since these sellers don't ship to western countries as they get enough business domestically in china to not bother with the hassle. I've checked so many agents/middlemen who will have the product shipped to their own warehouse and then they will ship it to me but the price is simply too much for shipping, not to mention their own fee which isn't low either, which results in no profit at all.
What is the cheapest way I can ship products from Taobao,1688 to Europe at a reasonable cost so i'm left with profit. Alibaba/AliExpress prices are 5x higher and hundreds of people already selling at the same price at Alibaba/AliExpress since they're dropshipping so that's not viable either. | we are wating end. Just like that. I have increased prices. However - i have a lot of sales |
| agent006140 | 04-30-2020 04:02 PM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. VMDETECTION.
I am sending you a pm. |
| vmdetection | 04-30-2020 04:50 PM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. Quote:
Originally Posted by agent006140
(Post 1090005)
VMDETECTION.
I am sending you a pm. | Thanks I received it but can't reply due to not having 25 posts. I will take a look at what you mentioned, however I do need shipping to the united kingdom so we will see whether it's suitable. |
| yankee | 04-30-2020 05:21 PM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. 44 kilogram is costing me $180 right now with a Direct UPS account but they are having constant issues and 6-7 days. They cartons get on the plane the same day but tons of problems in AK and South Korea with mechanical failures etc.. |
| vmdetection | 04-30-2020 07:08 PM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 1090023)
44 kilogram is costing me $180 right now with a Direct UPS account but they are having constant issues and 6-7 days. They cartons get on the plane the same day but tons of problems in AK and South Korea with mechanical failures etc.. | Wow that's around 4.3 usd per kg, extremely good prices, i will have to check with ups and see if i can get anywhere near those prices from china to the united kingdom, doubtful but worth a try. Also, i was unaware that ups offered service from china to usa like you say, did you compare with all other delivery couriers who offer china to usa and ups are cheapest? good job! |
| vmdetection | 04-30-2020 07:33 PM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 1090023)
44 kilogram is costing me $180 right now with a Direct UPS account but they are having constant issues and 6-7 days. They cartons get on the plane the same day but tons of problems in AK and South Korea with mechanical failures etc.. | i checked with ups website and i'm still getting really expensive rates, no idea how you're getting it so cheap. |
| yankee | 05-01-2020 04:23 PM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. Quote:
Originally Posted by vmdetection
(Post 1090049)
i checked with ups website and i'm still getting really expensive rates, no idea how you're getting it so cheap. | Did you open a Chinese UPS account and spent tens of thousands of dollars with them a year for more than a decade?
We normally like Fedex better but right now because of the virus a balance is back logged soo we are using ****ty/expensive UPS service. |
| yankee | 05-01-2020 04:24 PM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. With UPS, we have to take the receiver out for drinks to get the packages on the plane the same day and cant ship more than 2 cartons a day. What a freaking pathetic situation. |
| agent006140 | 05-01-2020 05:03 PM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. depends on where you live,there are ethnic towns where they have their own way of shipping and receiving. |
| vmdetection | 05-03-2020 10:31 PM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. bump, any info on how to get cheaper shipping? currently it's way too much. |
| newstart123 | 05-04-2020 01:21 AM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. Quote:
Originally Posted by vmdetection
(Post 1089952)
Hi, shipping costs are too high, how are people managing with such high prices? 20 usd per kg is ridiculous and I've checked multiple agents that are the middleman between Chinese ecommerce websites and shipping to you directly.
I've found profitable products but I have to use a middleman/agent since these sellers don't ship to western countries as they get enough business domestically in china to not bother with the hassle. I've checked so many agents/middlemen who will have the product shipped to their own warehouse and then they will ship it to me but the price is simply too much for shipping, not to mention their own fee which isn't low either, which results in no profit at all.
What is the cheapest way I can ship products from Taobao,1688 to Europe at a reasonable cost so i'm left with profit. Alibaba/AliExpress prices are 5x higher and hundreds of people already selling at the same price at Alibaba/AliExpress since they're dropshipping so that's not viable either. | since 05-01 price for shipping increased dramatically. I use agents:
wegobuy https://login.wegobuy.com/en/page/lo...&type=register
or
superbuy https://login.superbuy.com/en/page/l...&type=register |
Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. Quote:
Originally Posted by agent006140
(Post 1090301)
depends on where you live,there are ethnic towns where they have their own way of shipping and receiving. | ethnic towns? |
| vmdetection | 05-04-2020 06:16 PM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. Cheapest I found on some site is £6.50 / kg
Still too expensive... |
| e2free | 05-04-2020 06:23 PM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. We use our DHL and no rate increase at all they simply put £13 extra charges for the covid19 per shipment
Cost us around £3/kg
But now seems delay 3 to 4 days from hk |
| vmdetection | 05-08-2020 06:40 PM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. Quote:
Originally Posted by e2free
(Post 1091045)
We use our DHL and no rate increase at all they simply put £13 extra charges for the covid19 per shipment
Cost us around £3/kg
But now seems delay 3 to 4 days from hk | Hello, how did you get £3/kg? i've tried all shipping couriers and a variety of options and the cheapest i am still getting is 6.50/kg for China to UK. :noidea: |
| agent006140 | 05-08-2020 07:57 PM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. |
| e2free | 05-08-2020 10:10 PM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. Quote:
Originally Posted by vmdetection
(Post 1091931)
Hello, how did you get £3/kg? i've tried all shipping couriers and a variety of options and the cheapest i am still getting is 6.50/kg for China to UK. :noidea: | You need a account with them and its down to how much kg you import, we get around 80% against their list prices |
| JoexJoe | 05-10-2020 08:54 AM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. You can also open an account with usps, its cheaper |
| phaz0rz | 05-10-2020 08:57 AM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. Quote:
Originally Posted by JoexJoe
(Post 1092297)
You can also open an account with usps, its cheaper | USPS is not an option for getting your inventory from Asia to where ever else since they only ship within USA.
Aspkin needs to make a dedicated sub-forum where users can post jibberish until they get to 25 posts. :violin: |
| vmdetection | 05-10-2020 04:29 PM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. Quote:
Originally Posted by e2free
(Post 1091958)
You need a account with them and its down to how much kg you import, we get around 80% against their list prices | dhl giving me expensive prices, the cheapest i have gotten them down to is £5.9/kg if i order 30kg, if i do 20kg, it's around 6-7/kg. I was hoping to get around the 4-4.5/kg at the very minimum but having difficulties. Maybe if i talk to dhl on the phone they can sort something out. i have requested account so we will see what they say but i think they are even more expensive than ups and others.
I will contact some logistics suppliers on alibaba and see what their prices are. Or maybe i should try and communicate with the chinese sellers on taobao/1688 using google translate or something better to see if they know a cheaper option to ship the product out themselves to me for less price. But most only taking alipay so foreign citizens can't even register on this chinese version of paypal so i need to fix this issue aswell. My experience with middlemen/agents is that there is no need to use them, they charge too much and aren't necessary if you have a good supplier and so you just need to take care of delivery. |
| phaz0rz | 05-11-2020 06:12 AM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. I've never had any trouble using Alipay, from USA. |
| vmdetection | 05-12-2020 10:21 AM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. Quote:
Originally Posted by agent006140
(Post 1092500)
There are domestic shippers which would save you some money,your vendor would know,but the intl leg ,you can ask for slow boat to UK.
if you can afford to wait | Well i have contacted a lot of shippers on many different sites but still not getting anywhere really. Their prices are high and really cut into profit a lot for me so i do want to cut costs a bit more and reduce shipping. Can't register for dhl/fedex/ups, they only want business customers and i don't have a business currently since i'm just getting started. |
| yankee | 05-12-2020 01:06 PM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. Quote:
Originally Posted by vmdetection
(Post 1092804)
Well i have contacted a lot of shippers on many different sites but still not getting anywhere really. Their prices are high and really cut into profit a lot for me so i do want to cut costs a bit more and reduce shipping. Can't register for dhl/fedex/ups, they only want business customers and i don't have a business currently since i'm just getting started. | As you are finding....Shipping is a cost of doing business that just is not very negotiable without having significant volume. You best bet would be to work on cost of goods.... Much more negotiable. |
| vmdetection | 05-15-2020 10:28 PM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 1092837)
As you are finding....Shipping is a cost of doing business that just is not very negotiable without having significant volume. You best bet would be to work on cost of goods.... Much more negotiable. | I have tried to get the price reduced but i don't receive any response from sellers on 1688. I even send them messages in chinese but still nothing, not sure what is up with that. Also, they're already selling at low prices so it's highly unlikely that it will go anywhere. Shipping is the main issue and also the competitors who are doing really lowball prices and pretending to be UK sellers with uk flag in their pictures and location in the UK, meanwhile their business info is chinese and delivery estimate is 1.5-2 weeks, what a joke. Not to mention the issue of quality control. Sellers on 1688 have high returns rate which tells me product quality is not exactly up to par with what you would expect or require so without a shipping agent, i'd just ship faulty/missing items and agents are expensive. |
| vmdetection | 05-17-2020 06:50 PM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. Quote:
Originally Posted by agent006140
(Post 1093718)
so why do you want to sell what these Chinese sellers are selling?
You can compete,like you said shipping is too much | Most if not all worthwhile products are already listed and being sold by multiple chinese/asian sellers so not much you can do besides try to sell close to the same price they are doing but offer 2-4 day domestic delivery instead. However, there are other domestic shippers most of the time so it's still a hassle. |
| prodigyace | 05-17-2020 06:56 PM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. I have an agent i have been using that's very fair on pricing, got to hunt for them! |
| vmdetection | 05-25-2020 11:10 AM | Re: Shipping too expensive, not viable. Still can't find a cheap option, dhl haven't gotten back to me to create an account so can't get a quote from them. Parcelforce are giving 8gbp/kg which is too much. My product does have battery so i can't use SAL and other cheaper options right? any help? china to uk | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:25 PM. | |
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