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holyhell 05-26-2010 10:40 AM

EMS=No Good?
 
Apologies to the moderators ahead of time if this is in the wrong section.
Reading through everything, it seems that the collectrive opinion of EMS is not good. I would think that getting ANYTHING from China could be a gamble, but EMS has gotten a pretty bad rap. Any stories for or against?

slapped 05-26-2010 11:49 AM

In My Experience EMS is the Cheapest and Most Likley to get Customs inspected Choice.

The Best choice is to have a Seller in China that has a "Good" Relationship with a Private carrier like DHL

aking 05-26-2010 12:00 PM

Have never had any problems with EMS shipping. I have been using them for a few years now. However, my supplier now uses UPS and I get my things in 3 days!

healthnut88 05-26-2010 02:59 PM

I've used ONLY ems and receive orders on average of 1 per week to the same address. I've only had 2 held up at customs and they were released and arrived without a problem.

jamblix 05-26-2010 03:57 PM

Most of my shipments come in through DHL. The few that came through EMS have had no problems. I have two shipments coming in through EMS supposedly on the same day. We'll see how that goes.

incniu 05-27-2010 09:51 AM

What is the weight limit for such ems dhl international shipping?

eBayMafia 05-27-2010 11:14 AM

EMS is pretty awesome, but they are pretty pricey. However, I get my items usually within a week from China so that's pretty good. When I first started, I went with EMS. Probably 100 large bulk amounts over the course of a year.

jbluntz 05-27-2010 11:55 AM

Ems is usually only a problem with bulk shipments, DHL is good for bulk, Ems is good for small stuff.

eBayMafia 05-27-2010 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbuntz (Post 141112)
Ems is usually only a problem with bulk shipments, DHL is good for bulk, Ems is good for small stuff.

I respectfully disagree.

EMS will work with you on the price, a lot, but not really for small items. For example, when I was using EMS the rates were 240 RMB for the first 500g, then 70 RMB for the next following 500g. However, EMS will offer you 55% off for bulky orders. If you are buying and reselling products from China quickly, this is great.

jbluntz 05-27-2010 12:54 PM

The rates on EMS are always free for me and based on my experience bulk shipments have been seized using ems but not with dhl which is also free if you order over 21kg.

Recherché 05-27-2010 03:46 PM

I would always use DHL only. Have had too many shipments seized going through San Fransisco using EMS. Can reroute through NY but takes too long. I get large packages from DHL within 4 days without any ever being seized.

holyhell 05-27-2010 07:33 PM

It doesn't seem like you can choose your carrier, though. Certain suppliers use EMS, and others DHL. I've noticed you can't choose.

So it's safe to ship to my real house? I will be doing small packages.

jbluntz 05-27-2010 09:04 PM

It depends on what the product is and if it's over 21kg or not you have to ask the seller, EMS is standard for most shipments but DHL, FEDEX,UPS, TNT are typical for larger shipments. You can have many nonbranded or chinese branded stuff shipped to your house but for name brand merchandise would be better to have shipped to a mailbox on the other side of the moon, whoops, I meant town lol.

GreenBean 05-27-2010 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holyhell (Post 141179)
It doesn't seem like you can choose your carrier, though. Certain suppliers use EMS, and others DHL. I've noticed you can't choose.

So it's safe to ship to my real house? I will be doing small packages.

But you can/should triple-check that your supplier will consider a different carrier. It boils down to the amount of business you are doing with your supplier:pop2: Take it a step further, have a range of suppliers for your items.
Makes life easier:pop2:

incniu 05-27-2010 10:36 PM

WHat kind of MAILBOX is safe enough to receive brand merchandise?


You need ID to open mailbox, right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbuntz (Post 141210)
It depends on what the product is and if it's over 21kg or not you have to ask the seller, EMS is standard for most shipments but DHL, FEDEX,UPS, TNT are typical for larger shipments. You can have many nonbranded or chinese branded stuff shipped to your house but for name brand merchandise would be better to have shipped to a mailbox on the other side of the moon, whoops, I meant town lol.


jbluntz 05-27-2010 11:22 PM

Yeah you need 2 pieces of id, business mailboxes are good since you can have packages shipped there in anyones name.

incniu 05-27-2010 11:52 PM

Which business mailbox do you recommend?

You are right; I think PO BOX only can receive mail under PO BOX owner's name.


Quote:

Originally Posted by jbuntz (Post 141244)
Yeah you need 2 pieces of id, business mailboxes are good since you can have packages shipped there in anyones name.


drebintech38 05-27-2010 11:56 PM

Been using EMS for a year now, but I order many small amounts to avoid customs BS. Good luck!

incniu 05-28-2010 07:20 AM

customs fees are charged random?

How do you decide which shipping package to charge tariff; do US cumtoms open all packages?

ballache 05-31-2010 03:15 PM

EMS are great except for Holland (Netherlands). Make sure your chinese supplier marks the shipment as a low value gift. Not the fastest but they all get through.

mustwin 05-31-2010 09:24 PM

EMS do get stopped by customs, but also what is the deal with DHL? They are more expensive but I alway thought that they were stricter with checking what is actually inside the box?

If you are selling f**e goods, I was on the understanding that DHL was a no go?

jbluntz 05-31-2010 09:28 PM

Alot of people use DHL for that stuff with not many problems and the shipping is free when it's over 21kg.

imhim 06-01-2010 03:21 PM

a lot of the chinese say that goods will get seized if they send by fedex/dhl/ups

however, I have used EMS twice and I got the packages after some long, long days of waiting (thats why I dont like EMS)

i used ebay to buy a ring... that came from america, however. that was sent by ups and I got that.

teedon 06-02-2010 08:40 AM

EMS sometimes cost over 10 days for the items come to usa,so you have to be patient .

slapped 06-02-2010 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imhim (Post 142264)
a lot of the chinese say that goods will get seized if they send by fedex/dhl/ups

however, I have used EMS twice and I got the packages after some long, long days of waiting (thats why I dont like EMS)

i used ebay to buy a ring... that came from america, however. that was sent by ups and I got that.

TWICE......Thats Nothing, all your Chinese sellers are trying to do is to give your items a better chance of arriving safley, DHL is NO Guarantee but it is a Little Less likely to get a bigger package siezed....that's a FACT

teedon 06-06-2010 04:16 AM

hi,slapped,you are correct,we always try to make the shippment to be more safely.We have did we can do and always thinking about this.EMS do not go inside from usa middle and DHL shipped from hong kong.And provide the documents in need for clear us custom and so on.We even do not care we pay more shipping cost if the goods can be shipp for safely.

but sometimes you will get bad lucky,as you can not control us custom.

but we are happy as we got a lot of expenience for avoid it

forummember 06-06-2010 09:39 AM

In the UK, EMS works fine.

teedon 06-09-2010 09:48 AM

Yes,We send a lot of packages to uk each week,we never have problem so far.I like to do more business with uk parnters .

Ballsack 06-11-2010 10:01 AM

I had no idea that anyone used anything other than EMS out of china, but then again I haven't bought anything from there in over a year.

teedon 06-20-2010 10:59 AM

EMS=good for many places but only for small parcel,low value products.No taxes request from custom or very cheaper taxes request.

lulbert 06-20-2010 11:04 AM

received things through EMS about 20 times and never had a problem

jbluntz 06-20-2010 11:10 AM

Same here lot's of small $100 lot's with quantity ranging from 5-10 going through NY seem to work pretty well.

ulsterbeef 11-11-2010 06:57 PM

I like EMS. Ive had no probs at all

teedon 11-12-2010 11:27 AM

EMS is pretty good sometimes if no issue happen to you

inleague2003 11-12-2010 05:29 PM

DHL is Horrible!!!They were seizing me and my friends stuff left and right.I switched to EMS and my packages were never even scanned by JFK customs.Believe it or not my best luck was EMS San Fransisco.My old supplier would rout my packages to go threw San Fransisco and i had no problem with 20+ orders.I lost that supplier about 6 months ago when China had the big crackdown.Im now trying a supplier called Electronics99.His feedback looks good.

Recherché 11-12-2010 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inleague2003 (Post 181582)
DHL is Horrible!!!They were seizing me and my friends stuff left and right.I switched to EMS and my packages were never even scanned by JFK customs.Believe it or not my best luck was EMS San Fransisco.My old supplier would rout my packages to go threw San Fransisco and i had no problem with 20+ orders.I lost that supplier about 6 months ago when China had the big crackdown.Im now trying a supplier called Electronics99.His feedback looks good.

Careful there. Six months ago it was much easier to ship EMS through San Fransisco. Now, they have cracked down immensely on shipments coming from China. If your zip code starts with 7,8, or 9 (as mine does) you are bound to get items searched. For me, it is almost guaranteed, no matter what new address I use. I now get all my items shipped through NY.

jbluntz 11-12-2010 11:54 PM

They don't allow you to change the zip to a NY one anymore , they return it to the sender and sometimes they don't even let it leave china.

jeffweico 11-13-2010 12:40 AM

This still works in some cases, but it is the luck of the draw. If your packages gets pulled into NY customs and they see that the ZIP is wrong, they DO send it back. But if the package makes it through and hits a USPS sorting center they will still correct it.

The NY thing won't work forever, though.

And these crackdowns come in waves. First SF gets hit. A few months ago it was Chicago. Then Cincinnati. New York could be next. You just never know.

But one thing I DO know is that it is getting tougher to bring stuff in. Smaller packages help. But that can get EXPENSIVE.

MERMAID 02-13-2011 07:21 PM

i want to open a mailbox in UK , can i receive packets that is not in my name??:hail: can i used this for a large bulk amounts???


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