Low risk, High value - Journal

[JohnMathew2k]

Hello. I just got into stealth accounts and I plan to remain a member of this community, I have took a swing at stealth guide few months ago, i understand how things work but I still have some questions.

Short story
I am from Hungary, and I have two active paypal accounts, one on my name and one account that I made on my friends details. I also have two ebay accounts UK and Germany account, I think all 4 of them are linked. I don't have a business account, but I sold 10.000s of euros on them with no problems. Sure, at the beginning I got limited but solved it. Since Since I work in the domain, i decided to buy and sell used medical equipment on Ebay.I never had 1 case opened (Higher value items, educated buyer makes this a headache free thing) Everything works well and If I would like I could sell at least 10k (with 30%+ profit) a month. I did that few times when I needed money but most of the time I would post 40% of the items I buy. You might ask, If you buy them why dont you sell them all directly ? Because I dont want large amounts of $ on my account and because I like to play with all those goodies in the hospital. Also, IRS in Hungary doesn't know **** about paypal but still I didn't wanted to get greedy until now (not to mention that times are changing and sooner or later they might have access to PP) ALSO I have never withdrawn money (I paid via paypal for electronics, sports equipment, vacations, Airbnb....)


The Plan

Since this is also a hobby for me and does not take too much time I would like to start buy more, list more sell more and finally spend more of the money I make, on Ebay and Airbnb )

The problems I encounter

Intro: Just bought a Premium stealth account from Ebayorbust (Kudos yo you sir)
TITANIUM BUSINESS PACKAGE
Ebay Business Seller Account + Premier Paypal + Email.
Ebay account has 500 item / £10000 monthly selling limit.
Paypal is VERIFIED with EU receiving limit in place.

1) I have fresh Burger UK IP and I will activate from Hungary, all packages will be sent from Hungary. If Paypal asks proof of shipping, and will see dispatched from Hungary would I get limited?

2)I will activate from two PCs (a PC and a MAC) Do I need a Fresh BurgerIP for each computer/USER? Can I use the same IP on different pc? Wouldn't be a problem with different cookies?

3)I think medical devices are a LOW risk category but also High Value. The account has no feedback s and I plan to list 15 items of a total value of 13k euro. The cheapest is 300 euro and the most expensive 1000 euro. I expect that 1000s euro items will be sold faster (should see a sell around 6k a month. Should I expect to get ****ed? :/ - As I said, No High risk items, No PP case will be opened + positive feedback on every unit I sell

4)Also when I will buy something of Ebay, Delivery address will be hungarian. I don't know what effect would that have on my account

This 4 questions are killing me

Since I looked for this questions and didn't find I will try to keep the topic alive by posting the whole Stealth experience

Cheers

[chrisroookie]

You can't sell high risk items on new fresh accounts, you'll get limited shortly, it's not worth it.

[Ebayorbust]

Perhaps you should have asked more questions before purchasing the account.

Firstly the EU limit is NOT lifted on the account you just purchased. Once you hit £1650, they will request photo ID and address proof.

As I told you, you CANNOT start off selling items at that value. If you decide to ignore this advice then you will quickly get limited. You need to start off with low value, low risk items and develop the account.

Further you will need to stay under the VAT threshold. If you sold 13000 euro in one month and some how managed to avoid a paypal limitation (no chance of that), then the ebay account will likely become restricted due to exceeding the VAT threshold on a pro-rata basis.

I personally wouldn't put more than around £6k a month through a stealth account and that is one that has loads of age and transaction history and has been built up over a good period of time.

Just noticed that you don't have access to a UK bank account either. I can tell you now you are going to get issues trying to move large volumes of money out of Paypal without a bank account attached.

When it all goes t1ts up, don't forget to make a new thread where you blame me for the issues you encounter.

PS. Change the flag on your profile to show your actual location so that you get given the relevant advice to your circumstances.

[JohnMathew2k]

Thank you for your reply.

Firstly as I said in the first post I do not plan to withdrawn money. All the money will be spent on ebay.

As fat as I know the Eu limit can be lifted after I provide the ID and address proof.
Firstly I will make some bidding and sell some cheaper items @300 gbp. Also, i will not sell high risk (stated in the title as well) items as well. If I get limited I will send the requested info provided by you

Didn't knew about VAT threshold but before I hit 5k I plan to buy another account. Thanks for the tip

NOW. When I made my account, i got limited 2 times, been asked shipping proofs, ID but after I sent them I never had any kind of problem and i sold lots of items, none high risk and no buyer ever opened a case.I have to admit I have called them via skype two times. Once they asked me Proof of delivery 5 months after I shipped the item, even if the buyer left positive feedback. Told them that was ridiculous and they let me go.

The thing with being limited is that you don't have access to your money for 180 days. For me, when I got limited after one month I was off the hook. But I amok with waiting 180 days.

Originally Posted by Ebayorbust

Perhaps you should have asked more questions before purchasing the account.

Firstly the EU limit is NOT lifted on the account you just purchased. Once you hit £1650, they will request photo ID and address proof.

As I told you, you CANNOT start off selling items at that value. If you decide to ignore this advice then you will quickly get limited. You need to start off with low value, low risk items and develop the account.

Further you will need to stay under the VAT threshold. If you sold 13000 euro in one month and some how managed to avoid a paypal limitation (no chance of that), then the ebay account will likely become restricted due to exceeding the VAT threshold on a pro-rata basis.

I personally wouldn't put more than around £6k a month through a stealth account and that is one that has loads of age and transaction history and has been built up over a good period of time.

Just noticed that you don't have access to a UK bank account either. I can tell you now you are going to get issues trying to move large volumes of money out of Paypal without a bank account attached.

When it all goes t1ts up, don't forget to make a new thread where you blame me for the issues you encounter.

PS. Change the flag on your profile to show your actual location so that you get given the relevant advice to your circumstances.

[Ebayorbust]

You're not listening my friend.

ANY item sold for £300 on an account with no transaction history IS HIGH RISK.

Firstly as I said in the first post I*do not plan to withdrawn money. All the money will be spent on ebay

And as I said in my last reply you will struggle to spend the money without a bank account attached. Paypal put security measures in place to prevent this type of money laundering.

This is going to end badly........

It sounds like you're going to have all sorts of issues with that plan.

Selling any item for £300-£1000 on a new account is high risk. Be prepared for paypal limitations. These limitations can't always be over come, even with the correct documents. If paypal decide you are too high risk they will cut ties with you permanently.

Buying items is also fine and good, but paypal have hidden limits, you can't always send or buy that much with a new account.

Something else to think about is that paypal don't always release funds after 180 days. My no1 rule is never leave more funds in paypal than you can afford to lose.

[JamesNorth101]

Originally Posted by JohnMathew2k

sell some cheaper items @300 gbp

Emmm that isnt really cheap....

[JohnMathew2k]

Thank you guys.

Now I understand what do you mean by high limits. Also the bank might be a problem. However, my father in law works in UK and I could add his bank account (I still have to read the forum on this matter)

What should I do in this case since I do not have anything under 300 GBP to sell. Its kind of a bummer. I might make a account on each of my family members and spread the sales. This is a tough one for me. Do not worry Ebayorbust, I will not blame you when this goes south

Ideally you find low risk, low value items to build the account up. You would build an account up to the point where it has a good trading history, has history selling many items, including some expensive items.

Then you start adding more expensive items, and increasing sales slowly and gradually. You never want a spike in sales.

[JamesNorth101]

Originally Posted by JohnMathew2k

What should I do in this case since I do not have anything under 300 GBP to sell. Its kind of a bummer. I might make a account on each of my family members and spread the sales. This is a tough one for me.

Using friends account isnt really a solution here as the risk stays the same

Its just a case of selling lower value items and building the account up over a few months. Then selling £300 items becomes a lot easier.

[JohnMathew2k]

THank you. I will take it slowly,

I will post my PP&Ebay experience as a noob.

I had my own account 9 years ago, and sold my world of warcraft account for 500 euros. Got to withdrawn the money but then the buyer opened case and I was left with negative balance. I was like whoa this are easy money. At that time I was in the school. So, because the owner made a chargeback on paypal I did the same on my warcraft account. I taught he tried to scam me but I won.Made another bank account, another paypal (same name, same infos) account and BANG, relisted the game. Same thing happened. Buyer pays, I give the game, I withdrawn the money, he opens ticket. My both account are on negative. I close deals with PP for few years, untill I receive a call from a collection company ). I was like GTFO, after 5 years you ask me 500 euros? I have no ideea what you are talking about and since that time I never heard about them. I finally made two accounts on my best friends name and on my wifes name. At the beginning it was hard to sell, my money were blocked, had to call PP, however they were asking me invoice, ID, but in the end they would release the funds. My first sale on a fresh new account was of 4000 euro. They instantly blocked the money but they released after some time.


I will take your advice and take it as slow as I can. Thanks

[rsot]

Welcome to the forum - all the best as you master stealth

[JohnMathew2k]

I was just reading Stealth Book and it says "you will not be linked to another ebay, paypal by name alone". As I said in a post, I was contacted by a collection agency.Now, my father who has the same name as mine (another address) had his account suspended and he was ALSO contacted by phone (dont ask me how they got his phone )by the same collecting agency...I remember perfectly because he was so pissed with them ) And it was just the name. I am sure this does not apply to USA/Uk but still it could happen in other countries


Could someone move this thread on another folder since this thread will not be about UK accounts anymore but still I would like to give back and post my whole experience..

[chrisroookie]

Originally Posted by JohnMathew2k

I was just reading Stealth Book and it says "you will not be linked to another ebay, paypal by name alone". As I said in a post, I was contacted by a collection agency.Now, my father who has the same name as mine (another address) had his account suspended and he was ALSO contacted by phone (dont ask me how they got his phone )by the same collecting agency...I remember perfectly because he was so pissed with them ) And it was just the name. I am sure this does not apply to USA/Uk but still it could happen in other countries


Could someone move this thread on another folder since this thread will not be about UK accounts anymore but still I would like to give back and post my whole experience..

Just tell em you don't know anything about it lol, they'll take a hike.

[SaiJin]

medical devices are certainly high risk because it's a "health" product. So make sure you have documentation or certifications just in case.

about shipping from Hungary, no, as long as you post that it ships from there you are golden. You may also want to take a look at a UK forwarder perhaps if you are worried so it seems that the package originates from within UK.

[dark_knight]

Originally Posted by Ebayorbust

Perhaps you should have asked more questions before purchasing the account.

Firstly the EU limit is NOT lifted on the account you just purchased. Once you hit £1650, they will request photo ID and address proof.

As I told you, you CANNOT start off selling items at that value. If you decide to ignore this advice then you will quickly get limited. You need to start off with low value, low risk items and develop the account.

Further you will need to stay under the VAT threshold. If you sold 13000 euro in one month and some how managed to avoid a paypal limitation (no chance of that), then the ebay account will likely become restricted due to exceeding the VAT threshold on a pro-rata basis.

I personally wouldn't put more than around £6k a month through a stealth account and that is one that has loads of age and transaction history and has been built up over a good period of time.

Just noticed that you don't have access to a UK bank account either. I can tell you now you are going to get issues trying to move large volumes of money out of Paypal without a bank account attached.

When it all goes t1ts up, don't forget to make a new thread where you blame me for the issues you encounter.

PS. Change the flag on your profile to show your actual location so that you get given the relevant advice to your circumstances.

hello, sir, u say don't make more than 6 k on one account per months but after u hit about 1600 they ask for id and proof what u do with this to continue in use account ???