Another dvd seller bites the dust

nobody999 · #1 03-31-2010

Turlock Journal - Local DVD pirates found guilty of multiple federal charges

jbluntz · #2 03-31-2010

They made almost a million bucks and only face up to a year in jail and weren't even using multiple ebay accounts, just imagine the possibilities.

nobody999 · #3 03-31-2010

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Originally Posted by jbuntz

They made almost a million bucks and only face up to a year in jail and weren't even using multiple ebay accounts, just imagine the possibilities.

probably got a good lawyer and spent all the money they made on legal fees, and now they are labled as convicted criminals...definitely not worth it

jbluntz · #4 03-31-2010

It's not worth it to go that far but it can be worth it to make just enough to get started in something else.

Burning · #5 03-31-2010

You guys read it wrong. It says:

The court has scheduled a sentencing hearing for Freyling and Butts for April 22. They face maximum punishments of 20 years for each count of wire and mail fraud, five years for the conspiracy, smuggling, entry of goods by false statements, Social Security fraud, and false statement counts. For each count, there is also a potential fine of $250,000.

jbluntz · #6 03-31-2010

I guess I missed that part, looks like a good time head to Costa Rica.

OfficialGenius · #7 03-31-2010

Someone seems to be paranoid

jbluntz · #8 03-31-2010

I was reffering to the people in the article, I don't get paranoid, I do everything with 100% confidence.

jamblix · #9 03-31-2010

Damn! 20-30k per month! Incredible!

I wonder if anyone on here is making that much money. I'd be happy making 5-10k a month. LOL the funny thing is they turned on each other at the end! Or actually the woman turned on the man, saying she knew nothing, using the poor old blind woman excuse and even calling him gay! HAHA!

They were getting so reckless though. Kinda feel bad almost. If they had just done a few things differently they could just have happily retired with some major cash. Looks like what they were doing is a little different from what the people on here are trying to accomplish.

Gotta be more vigilant from now on.

OfficialGenius · #10 03-31-2010

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Originally Posted by jbuntz

I was reffering to the people in the article, I don't get paranoid, I do everything with 100% confidence.

Not you!

Burning · #11 03-31-2010

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Originally Posted by OfficialGenius

Not you!

Lol, someone deleted my post in a blink of a second..

Who ever you are come out!

arsgunner77 · #12 03-31-2010

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Originally Posted by Burning

You guys read it wrong. It says:

The court has scheduled a sentencing hearing for Freyling and Butts for April 22. They face maximum punishments of 20 years for each count of wire and mail fraud, five years for the conspiracy, smuggling, entry of goods by false statements, Social Security fraud, and false statement counts. For each count, there is also a potential fine of $250,000.

this is the major stuff,for the bootleg stuff its a year, they did alot of shady ****,all the other crap they got caught for is way worse than the actual selling dvds,,entry of goods by false statements,ss fraud,false statements...way worse than selling counterfeit, even people ive read who went to jail for selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ crap never went away for that long,its all the other stuff that gets them wayy worse,

i suggest you all stop selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ or this could be you and you and you...

Burning · #13 03-31-2010

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Originally Posted by arsgunner77

this is the major stuff,for the bootleg stuff its a year, they did alot of shady ****,all the other crap they got caught for is way worse than the actual selling dvds,,entry of goods by false statements,ss fraud,false statements...way worse than selling counterfeit, even people ive read who went to jail for selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ crap never went away for that long,its all the other stuff that gets them wayy worse,

i suggest you all stop selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ or this could be you and you and you...

Yep, completely agree with what you said. Keep a watch out..you don't know what could happen.

arsgunner77 · #14 03-31-2010

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Originally Posted by Burning

Yep, completely agree with what you said. Keep a watch out..you don't know what could happen.

of course no one knows what can happen,but if you go stealth the correct way and do it smart(something majority of the board has no clue of) than youll be ok

that couple sold bogus dvds,i bought the godfather 1-3 dvd years and years ago on ebay and it was a bogus bootleg,the case was all crap,thats the type of crap they were selling,all i did was go to my local blockbuster and swap out the dvds..haha..my problem solved!

but ya you can sell anything you want to as long as you go stealth correctly,i mean worse case scenario they rarely dont go that far unless yer dealing in the 6-7 figure range and them trying to contact you to no avail

just be smart if yer going to sell bogus crap,obviously some ⊗⊗⊗⊗ stuff is better than other ⊗⊗⊗⊗ stuff and these articles come up every year,you always hear about idiots selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ crap, i mean seriously if they really really want to stop counterfeiting,they could do a way better job of doing so,i live in a fairly big city and its pretty easy to find out in the open,sure the fbi comes in every now and than and bust people,but they could do a better job if they really wanted to,i mean just look at ebay for gods sake..⊗⊗⊗⊗ heaven

Burning · #15 03-31-2010

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Originally Posted by arsgunner77

of course no one knows what can happen,but if you go stealth the correct way and do it smart(something majority of the board has no clue of) than youll be ok

that couple sold bogus dvds,i bought the godfather 1-3 dvd years and years ago on ebay and it was a bogus bootleg,the case was all crap,thats the type of crap they were selling,all i did was go to my local blockbuster and swap out the dvds..haha..my problem solved!

but ya you can sell anything you want to as long as you go stealth correctly,i mean worse case scenario they rarely dont go that far unless yer dealing in the 6-7 figure range and them trying to contact you to no avail

just be smart if yer going to sell bogus crap,obviously some ⊗⊗⊗⊗ stuff is better than other ⊗⊗⊗⊗ stuff and these articles come up every year,you always hear about idiots selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ crap, i mean seriously if they really really want to stop counterfeiting,they could do a way better job of doing so,i live in a fairly big city and its pretty easy to find out in the open,sure the fbi comes in every now and than and bust people,but they could do a better job if they really wanted to,i mean just look at ebay for gods sake..⊗⊗⊗⊗ heaven

Stealth does not protect you, trust me. If they were after you they can easily search your ip and find the location of it.

vigilantex69 · #16 03-31-2010

I'm sure they got busted because they were making $30,000 a month and ****ing the government on taxes. You can't have thousands of dollars coming in a week and not show where its from.

arsgunner77 · #17 03-31-2010

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Originally Posted by Burning

Stealth does not protect you, trust me. If they were after you they can easily search your ip and find the location of it.

of course i know that,but they dont go that far for chumps,if yer messin around in the 6-7 figure range, if you do a few thousand a month under multiple accounts,youll be fine,they wont waste there time on someone doing 1k a month,they have better things to worry about..again it depends on yer product,

hope everyone plays safe

arsgunner77 · #18 03-31-2010

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Originally Posted by vigilantex69

I'm sure they got busted because they were making $30,000 a month and ****ing the government on taxes. You can't have thousands of dollars coming in a week and not show where its from.

ya too but it seems they got busted for all other things besides the dvds really,its just one thing led to another

i mean what does the govt care more about? ⊗⊗⊗⊗ dvds or ss fraud and falsifying documents? thats pretty obvious to me

jbluntz · #19 03-31-2010

@Burning Stealth does not protect you, trust me. If they were after you they can easily search your ip and find the location of it.

I thought that was the reason people hide their mac address.

jamblix · #20 03-31-2010

If the FBI want to find you, they will find out regardless. People have not been using IP addresses to find criminals for the past two centuries. Play smart and don't be TOO greedy. Stupidity and greediness are the two biggest factors of people getting caught...

arsgunner77 · #21 03-31-2010

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Originally Posted by jamblix

If the FBI want to find you, they will find out regardless. People have not been using IP addresses to find criminals for the past two centuries. Play smart and don't be TOO greedy. Stupidity and greediness are the two biggest factors of people getting caught...

well said..just like i said a couple post above you,if they really want to bust people for selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ stuff,they easily can,they really dont put too much effort into it..one of the main reasons they do is because the companies complain and they have to do big bust every now and than to make everyone happy,but seriously the govt has more important things to worry about than people sellin ⊗⊗⊗⊗ stuff online..im not saying they dont care,but its not really high on the priority list

OfficialGenius · #22 03-31-2010

They will find me If I'm stealing someone else's connection or how about using a prepaid connection.

Don't be too paranoid. You gotta take risks in life specially to make big money and invest it in property or authetic suppliers and come clean. I have a minimum of 2,000 a week goal and I'm not letting paranoia or people stop me from accomplishing it. Or at least, not anymore.