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Hi guys.

I will try to make that brief so please bear with me.

Ok, this is my story.

I trade from Hong Kong, I had a good account with amazon.co.uk, and traded just over 2 years. Last year went really big (to me anyway). Obviously it took a little time to build up, first 6 months was quiet then things got better and better, but just before we were shut down, we had just short of 5000 feedbacks with 97% positive. We sell camera and stuff, averaging around £300 per item.

I cannot be 100% certain that I was shut down because of the last complaint about me selling "imported" items, we did have a few policy warnings over the course (but they have been unfair) and not to our surprise they do not listen to your explanation anyway.

We sensed the danger during the time so we had attempted to open an extra account last year or so, but not long after, that "new account" had received warning to state that they know it was linked to another and asked us to stop selling and lower the selling on account number 1. So we stopped number 2 and concentrated on number 1. (obviously back then we did not find this forum and GHOST) Obviously we read stories that they may shut you down for no reason, so they can sell your items instead.

Well, we are plain, simple business, and do not know the term "stealth" or "⊗⊗⊗⊗" . Details, everything is legit and real.

So, since the shut down, we tried opening number 3, obviously the way we have done this time from number 3, is (basically new everything)
New person
New business name (even register a new legit company)
New account holder
New phone number
New address (new location of office)
New IP
New computer

The computer was bought new and only used for emailing (amazon purposes) and amazon logging in. No personal facebook and crap. I accessed the pc via team viewer.
Obviously they did not last long, and a standard warning applies. and shut down. ( I had also mixed some items in there to build up the inventory)

Number 4 was quickly up and running in the same new everything concept so I do not believe that side of the things are in danger in linking accounts, however upon reading your book, the failure will fall into
1) selling same items
2) selling items too fast

I have the following questions;
1) does team viewer has any affect to it? will it cause it to be linked? (safe? in terms of connections?)
2) I do not entirely understand on how to do the mac change etc etc so I may opt to use new pc and new connection. So is that again "safe"?
3) it is mentioned about $750 / 28 days sales, as a safe selling limit, do you know if they have a scale so I know how much to sell over how long? And realistically, when is safe for me to hit full power? 3 months? 6 months?
4) I want a sustainable account for long, but if I can get 2 accounts running now, and just leave it selling low, I want to hit it hard in sept / oct to catch the xmas season.
5) You see, there are bank accounts that can branch out a sub account with different account name and numbers, do you think I can use that? or does it have to be completely new new bank accounts? as you know opening up a new business bank account is not as easy.
6) when I tried my account number 4 a couple of months back, I do not recall needing a pass port, and can you confirm that it is the case now and since when?
7) now this is a tricky one. It is mentioned that selling same items will flag up, but realistically come on amazon, people from hk sell camera, thats what they do,that is the fact, if every new hk based account is set up to sell cameras will be classified as linked, then no one from hk can ever get on it ?!?!? I cannot change from selling camera to tea bags, cos it wouldn't be worth it. So sells different stuff is that a temperarily measure for safety, or is that for good? And If it is just a temperarily thing, how long can I start selling camera again?

8) account deletion. I read about it on here, obviously its bad enough that they hold for 90 days, but if I risk opening up 2 more but using the ghost techniques, and if they still got linked after, from their super dooper computer, would I wish having the past accounts deleted? As account number 1 still have 7 weeks to go until past 3 months, and have a large amount of fund in it, account 2,3,4 are smaller funds but still bad enough if I lose them.

9) registering on amazon EU platform instead of uk, start selling in say fr or es and bring back to uk after 3 months, will that be more safe?

Thank you guys in advanced

Thanks

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team viewer uses your computer, do not see how it can be a problem.

what type of connection are you using mobile or wifi ? - I would buy a new wifi hub too. Mobile mac is harder to change.

new computer good idea, or use vmware.

no idea about their scales, slower is better, but I think it may be your goods that are linking you too ultimately.....

they are now asking for id from forumers on newer made accs, you need to consider this from now on. 2 accs possible if kept seperate.

does it have to be a business bank acc? sub acc with different numbers would be ok, if too similar and you think they are on safari hunt for you then maybe safer to go for a different bank.

Also note, ltd company officers are publically searchable, can create a link to your name if not careful.

EU safer, possibly, maybe not be same team watching you.....

you need ghost book methods in place, but again, it is the goods link issue and also the import issue generating complaints that may annoy customers and they always make their feelings known on az, as soon as they do, az see you are same banned person!!
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The internet connection is WiFi but again its new equipment and in fact at different location office so that should be ruled out.

But is team view completely safe tho I.e. not leaving traces including file transferred .

I know product was a cause but it will be pointless to come back on it if I can't sell my speciality. or even eventually .

I alao read about emails received could be a problem. Now. I know if I reply or answer email with different IP and machine I will be screwed. But how about just reading it off my phone. Will that be a problem?

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I know if I reply or answer email with different IP and machine I will be screwed. But how about just reading it off my phone. Will that be a problem?
You need to have images and beacons disabled and you are also fine to read emails.

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I don't think replying email can be done from previous banned IP and PC cos every reply will send a copy thru Amazon server which may contain the IP or Mac info on where and what machine the email was originally generated from.

To clearify this point, I was asking if I do all my replies from a brand new PC but also set up email account in my affected mobile or pc for notofication only so i have i have an email waitin to be replied when they ckme in. Will that send some kind of tracr back to amazon?

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OK. So that means

1) replying emails from an infected PC or from an infected IP is OK as long as I reply via gmail platform and not in the Amazon messaging platform

2) having to read emails from an infected PC or mobile or from an infected IP as long as in the gmail client and not logged to Amazon messaging platform again is fine?

3) team viewer. As far as everyone on here knows that its fine.

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1. While I am not a fan of replying to e-mails outside of the Az platform, gmail would be safe if all images and beacons are off.

2. Again, all images, beacons must be turned off during reading.

3. Team viewer does work - just have to make sure you dont lose IP connection
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if all else fails and you know they are watching those goods, have you considered giving the goods a break for a year on az and switching to ebay (less profit, true) and then trying again on az, the heat may be off......
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Thanks OOM, yes i will give it a short break and will also head over to ebay, but the nature of the product ebay is not a good platform for it, its not just less profit, its that people sell for far less than what it costs.

Not sure about giving it a break for a year but defo do it for 2-3 months and see.

The trouble is, thats what does not make sense. A good, best seller product on az, is always popular as other sellers also want to jump in and sell, so if any new seller that wants to sell a so called best seller product will get banned, it just sounds too silly.
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The trouble is, thats what does not make sense. A good, best seller product on az, is always popular as other sellers also want to jump in and sell, so if any new seller that wants to sell a so called best seller product will get banned, it just sounds too silly.
Might sound silly to you but Az can do it to keep listings clean
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