Aged accounts and the actual definition behind it.

[Haidukken]

It's me again!

I have a question regarding the aging process of the account:

People talk A LOT about how they "age accounts" for 30 days or more. What does that ACTUALLY mean?
When does aging start and what are the different stages of aging process?

1)If I create an eBay and DON'T link Paypal to it, does it count as aging process?

2)If I create an eBay and link a Paypal that is at 20%, does it count as aging?

3)If I create eBay, and link Paypal that is VCC and phone verified but NOT bank verified, is this aging process?

At them moment I have 10 stealth accounts, Paypal 80% and linked to the eBay accounts. All about 3 weeks old and I'll wait another week or so before I start the listing.
I'm thinking of creating at least another 10 accounts and I was just wondering in what way could have create a kind of backup reserve pool that I can dip in every now and again, once one of the stealths go down? I'm not saying they will go down, but in case I lose one I would like to have an option to just dip into my user pool and take an account that is "aged" and just add a new bank account to it and start selling slowly, rather than "age" something from scratch and spend 30-90 days on a brand new user.

So yeah, any help or theories would be much appreciated on this topic, or maybe somebody can share their practices.
BUT
Please, don't write down exactly how you do things because the last thing I want to do is have EVERYBODY copy one method and it becomes obvious to eBay and Paypal that this is happening.
If you don't want to talk about this here, you can always send me a PM in private. Any help is much appreciated.

[rsot]

I prefer creating the PP in advance of eB and then doing some transactions with it before eB. I can't say 100% that I have a standard timeframe but 2-4 weeks works well for me

[Callidus]

Originally Posted by rsot

I prefer creating the PP in advance of eB and then doing some transactions with it before eB. I can't say 100% that I have a standard timeframe but 2-4 weeks works well for me

PayPal before the eBay, always.

(Best post from you in a long time rsot lol )

[RosieTosie]

Your ebay accounts will not be considered to have aged at all haidukk if you don't confirm and verify them, and of course you need to add functioning and verified paypal accounts to them and do a bit of browsing on them, and list a few items to start that ageing process and keep them in a state where you could just pluck one of them out and start more regular selling on it if one of your main ones went down. That is especially so this year with the new ID situation.

[Haidukken]

Originally Posted by Callidus

PayPal before the eBay, always.

(Best post from you in a long time rsot lol )

Umm... Howcome Paypal first?
Does that mean you create Paypal account and just leave it to be for a while as it is and then link it to another standby eBay account when needed? If so, at what % do you leave the Paypal at? Just a empty shell with 20 or 40% or you take it up to 80% and leave it to hang?

Might be silly questions, but where else could I ask them, rite?

[RosieTosie]

Originally Posted by haidukk

Umm... Howcome Paypal first?
Does that mean you create Paypal account and just leave it to be for a while as it is and then link it to another standby eBay account when needed? If so, at what % do you leave the Paypal at? Just a empty shell with 20 or 40% or you take it up to 80% and leave it to hang?

Might be silly questions, but where else could I ask them, rite?

It is just considered by quite a lot of forum members to be an option that goes through the smoothest haidukk, and let's face it, these days anything that does that here in the UK at the moment is worth following!!

[JamesNorth101]

PayPal first is always my method as well.

Let it age for a couple of weeks then add in an eBay account.

Browse on it for a few weeks and then you can start to sell small generic items.

After your first sale your account will start to age as a sellers account.

[Bunneh]

LOL i am the opposite, I create ebay before creating paypal..

I would assume if you were creating a 'limits removed' paypal account then creating the paypal first would be the better option.

But if you know what you are doing, then i really do not see the difference.

[JamesNorth101]

I pretty much agree that overall it does not make a great deal of difference.

I create the PayPal first mainly out of habit.

[Haidukken]

And by "creating a Paypal" you guys mean that you create it and take it to 80% or just create it and leave it, until you need it and then add info?


Currently what I have done is: create eBay account, create Paypal account. Add my details to Paypal and take the account up to 80% and then add all my addresses and name changes to eBay(I hate the automated usernames) I then leave the accounts to sit as they are and in about weeks time or so I link them and then leave them as they are.

I just don't feel that if I bang them out as if it was a production line, it'd look quite as realistic. Even when I add the info, I don't add everything at once- Sometimes I add the VCC and phone and then two days later I add the bank.

I just try to mix it up a bit but on the same time I thought I'd ask you, as my stealth family, what works and what doesn't work for you. At times shared experiences mean more than one off cases.

[JamesNorth101]

Do not even need to get to 80%

Need to stop worrying about the PayPal %.

So long as the account is confirmed and verified then you have done all you need.

[Haidukken]

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101

Do not even need to get to 80%

Need to stop worrying about the PayPal %.

So long as the account is confirmed and verified then you have done all you need.

So it's basically just a VCC and Bank account details and I should be worried about.

[JamesNorth101]

Its all that really matters.

Confirming the number and email address ect will of course also help, but there is no need to try to get to 100%.

You also want to think about the limits in place on that account. That is the main obstacle to having a really good PayPal account

[Haidukken]

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101

Its all that really matters.

Confirming the number and email address ect will of course also help, but there is no need to try to get to 100%.

You also want to think about the limits in place on that account. That is the main obstacle to having a really good PayPal account

Mr James, I don't know what I'd do without you. Thanks for clearing this for me. I kind of knew all of this already but it's always nice to hear it from somebody who KNOWS knows it- Like you.

Limitations will be a mother****er to deal with, but I guess if I can make £1.7k on an account, then surely I should put aside SOME money and use this forum to get a limits lifting service. Will the limits STAY removed and account active, that's another matter, but one can try. One should try.
I will for sure try it, once I get there.

[Callidus]

I prefer to have everything setup correctly and have all limits lifted before taking money into an account

[Haidukken]

Originally Posted by Callidus

I prefer to have everything setup correctly and have all limits lifted before taking money into an account

Makes sense in my mind to remove limits before taking money there too, because if one has a plan to remove limits down the road, why not start by doing so, rite?
I guess it all depends on the money that people want to make and how much are they willing to invest into an account that might get suspended.

[JamesNorth101]

There are arguments to be made for doing it right at the start and arguments to wait until you get to the £1900 mark before submitting the docs.

Doing it right at the start
Pros
+ You dont have to worry about the EU limits knowing that they are done and dusted
+ You can look to build a long term account
Cons
- If they get refused you have wasted a bank account


Waiting until the EU limits have been reached
Pros
+ You get the maximum use out of the account before submitting docs
+ You do not risk wasting a bank account without being able to make any use of it
Cons
- You cannot bank on the account being long term since they docs may get refused


I am sure there are a lot more pros and cons to each method, but at the end of the day its really its all down to personal preference