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An Amazon Sellers Nightmare
 

So here’s the situation:

I’m an Amazon seller of over ten years. I have a business website with all of my items linked directly to Amazon in addition to what anyone can see in my Amazon storefront. A buyer purchased multiple items from me in a three month time period. A few months later she emails me claiming damage and non-receipt on some of the items. This buyer is also a seller on Amazon. I ship everything with tracking and the items she claimed non-received were delivered and I emailed the tracking information to her and suggested that she also check with neighbors who might have received it by mistake and contact her local post office just to make sure the items were not on hold pending pickup there. She refused to do any of these things. I then asked her to follow Amazon policy and open up claims for the items in question and she refused to do that. She demanded that I refund her outright (outside of Amazon policy) and I would not do that. I asked her repeatedly to file the necessary claims and she would not cooperate. She began verbally attacking me and threatening me in email. The emails were coming daily.. several emails every day. She even went so far as to say if I didn’t meet her demands she would file false feedback against me which she ultimately did. She filed so much false feedback that my account got suspended on November 29th. The abusive emails got so bad that I had to report her twice to Amazon for harassment. I knew at that point that she was trying to get all of her items for free at my expense. I immediately contacted Amazon’s Seller Support Department and referred them to the email communication I had with this buyer so they could see I did nothing wrong. It took about three weeks but my account was reinstated and all of the false feedback she left for me was removed on December 26th. I immediately put my account on vacation status because she made threats of ordering more stuff from me for the sole purpose of leaving false feedback to get me suspended again. In the interim of trying to get my account reinstated I was referred to a third-party website by a member of the Amazon Seller Discussion Forum ("badbuyerlist.org"). The website is used by sellers on Amazon and other venues to report unscrupulous buyers. I did a search of this buyer on that site and found that she was already reported there twice by two different Ebay sellers for running the same scam on them. I created my own report and I also added notes to the two Ebay seller pages letting them know that she was now trying to scam me. (Note: A few days later I found all of the so-called damaged and non-received items available for sale in this buyers Amazon store).

The buyer found the review site, found my report and that of the two Ebay sellers and she began publicly attacking me on one of the Ebay seller report pages. The stuff she is saying is vile, vulgar and not a word of it is true. She proceeds to put my home address and other personal information about me on this site and she talks about two upcoming attacks that she is planning on my home and business. There are over 50 pages of her disgusting comments and she uses language that I can’t repeat here. I filed a police report on her a few days ago and I will be taking other actions soon. She pretends to be other people (vice cop, former military, etc.) and talks about situations that don’t exist and never have and actions that she’s taken against me that are totally not true. I’ve traced IP addresses she’s used to reveal her lies. She has a criminal record in her home state and appears to live in some kind of an alternate universe that makes no sense to me. The vile comments continue to come in daily. My Amazon account is still on vacation status and I’m working with Amazon’s Seller Support to see if I can get her banned permanently. I gave them a link to the review page where this buyer is publicly attacking me so they can see first-hand what she’s capable of.

I cannot begin selling again on Amazon until they take action to remove her from their site. If they do not do that I’m not sure how to proceed.

Does anyone have any advice or suggestions?

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Remove all products that she can search and identify you by and change your Amazon store name. You should change your store name every so often anyways.
If you have her info and location you can decide if you want to make a trip there... I hate people who think that they are untouchable.

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Also don't ever post in the Amazon seller forums . These can be found when web searching your store name.

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To be honest Amazon will not do anything
You have to protect yourself
Account reinstated does not mean they accepted it's not your fault 2nd time suspension mean you lost your account
You done from your side don't think anything more can be done

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You did the right things in terms of the non delivery stuff if it was tracked, but the damaged stuff should have gotten returned or just refunded. You got a whacko. She must have bought alot of stuff to be able to get the account suspended via feedback, plus you cannot even block on amazon. She is a seller? is she a competitor? as that would explain some of her behaviour....

Amazon are useless with this sort of thing, but Police reports they may look at it more favourable and take notice of you.

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TO: AUCTION KING

"...Remove all products that she can search and identify you by and change your Amazon store name. You should change your store name every so often anyways.
If you have her info and location you can decide if you want to make a trip there...

I cannot remove all products that she can search and identify me by. We sell many of the same products and that would mean taking the majority of my inventory down. It's to her benefit for me to stay offline. The longer I'm down the more of the same items of mine that she can sell while mine sit on the shelf. I have her name, her address (both street and PO Box), her date of birth, her phone number, the color and type of car she drives and all of the IP addresses tied to her locations. The police have all of this information as well as the URL to the location where she's making the threats against me and my home. We live in different states so going there wouldn't get me any more info then I already have. Now her husband/ex-husband has stepped into the situation and he's threatening me, too. He claims he owns a big major jewelry store/pawn shop in my state and he knows people who can "end this for me". I looked up every jewelry store/pawn shop with a name even remotely close to what he says and called all of them. Nobody at any of the stores know who he is.

P.S. I have had my Amazon store name for over ten years and it is tied directly to my business website by the same name. The two are linked together and I have many loyal followers and buyers who order from me via that site. To change any part of it would mean undoing all of it and this person is gloating in her comments over the fact that she is single-handedly destroying my account and I refuse to allow my account to be held hostage like that.

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File a lawsuit against her and name amazon as co defendant. They are enabling her Will bypass arbirtation and will shut her down quite quickly.

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TO: SHALOMCITY

"File a lawsuit against her and name amazon as co defendant. They are enabling her Will bypass arbirtation and will shut her down quite quickly."

I did file a police report a few days ago and they have assigned an investigator. I have an appointment with an attorney Wednesday to explore other legal options including filing a defamation suit and civil restraining order. When all of this first started and my account got suspended I could not get Seller Support to help me get it reinstated. I finally emailed Jeff Bezos and sent him a full history of my dealings with this girl. He in turn sent the information to their escalation team and a few days later my account was restored and all negative feedback against me was removed. When this girl started attacking me on the review site I again emailed Jeff a link to the site so he could see what she is saying and doing. He again referred that to his escalation team and a member of that team reached out to me for additional information. That was a few days ago. A case number was assigned and I followed up letting them know that I filed a police report and that I'm meeting with an attorney. I'm keeping Amazon in the loop of everything that's happening.

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Building a name for your self can have benefits and negative consequences . Unfortunately you are experiencing the latter. You could always give her a taste of her own medician. Situations like this come down to who can weather the financial bleeding more. But I still think starting another store front will ultimately be your outcome.

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TO: AUCTION KING

I think I'm in a position to weather the storm better than she is. She has a criminal history for prostitution in her home town so I would think she'd be afraid of any legal problems and want to stay far away from them. She's a 70-year-old woman and it's a disgrace that someone of her age chooses to behave like this.

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Maybe look into shopify if your products are a specific nitch. This would give you more controle over your platform.

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@shalomcity, No, I would not name amazon as co-defendant (even though they deserve it) because if you want to get black-listed then that would be a good way to do it. I am not saying you will get the original account back, as you might not, but keep amazon out of it and focus on the nut....

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This lady's husband/ex-husband was also an Amazon seller who was selling counterfeit Chinese movies and he got reported a lot. This was back in 2011 and I'm assuming that he was banned because his account doesn't exist any longer. This lady's Amazon seller account is in really good standing until a buyer gives her a low feedback because of a problem with an item and then she fires back an attack claiming that the buyer is trying to scam her. She takes no responsibility for the transaction. And while other seasoned Amazon sellers are wondering why their amount of feedback has gone down over time (to maybe a handful a month), this lady gets several feedbacks every single day and she's only been a seller for a short time in comparison to the rest of us. How is that possible? She also has an Ebay account where she purchases only from Chinese sellers. While I know that could be perfectly okay...I feel like it's highly suspect given her behavior and what I know her to be capable of.

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It is times like this we should all work together and get her banned. I'd gladly buy something from this POS to get her off amazon.

post her account.

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mallory, if you could use paragraphs on your posts, it'd really help us with reading your posts.

Long continuous posts are tough to read.

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TO: USER3657

This gal sells under Amazon userID "VHS tapes for VHS tape players". She continues to threaten me on the other site with these upcoming attacks on me and my house.

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TO: SAIJIN

I'm sorry for the typing problem. I do sometimes forget to make paragraphs and such. I type over 80wpm and I forget to realize how others see my comments. :-(

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Please tell me vhs tapes are not the items were talking about... lol , I never had luck with them.

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TO: AUCTION KING

I sell mostly children's VHS, laserdiscs, LP's, CD's and anything else I can find. I've had really good luck with them. Been doing it for over ten years. This gal ordered over 20 VHS from me and then started claiming damage and non-receipt on most of them. I was more than willing to work with her on return/refunds until she began demanding money outright without filing any claims. When she started bullying me and threatened to leave the negative feedback if I didn't refund her (outside of Amazon policy) that's when I said "No Way!". I stood my ground and the next day she slammed me with multiple negative feedbacks and my account was suspended immediately. Once I found out she did the same thing to sellers on Ebay I knew what her game was. About a week later all of the items she said were either damaged or not received showed up in her Amazon store.

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Contact Joe Demarco crazeenydriver@aol.com

He is ebay seller and youtube channel and has been harassed for years with same sort of situation. He could give you some advice. He is not in it for any money. He managed to get restraining order and get his staker/harraser on Fox news.

Here is website where you can read about this http://chuckfitchscammer.com/

Good Luck!

BTW: Good Reason to learn Amazon Ghost

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File a restraining order against her, then sue her in court for defamation of character.

The emails alone are enough to help get your online reputation back on track.

Once you file the orders, contact every site shes left a bad review and show them the pending lawsuit(s) so her reviews will be removed (pending litigation)

She seems to have mental illness for days....I doubt it though since shes a seller... Just make sure you save ALL communication between the 2 of you to CYA (Cover your (a)SS)

you may need to actually CALL amazon and other seller platforms to tell them of the loony bin circus.

Keep us posted and good luck

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TO: NEWJERSEYMAX

Thanks for the links. I'll check them out. :-)

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TO: BIGCJ

I filed a police report a few days ago and made an appointment with an attorney for tomorrow. I'm hesitant to file a defamation suit or restraining order because if I do that she'll know my real identity. While she's listed my home address out there for the whole world to see, she doesn't have my real name. She thinks she knows my name and she put what she thought was my name on this site but she got it wrong. I'm letting her think she's right but the downside to that is the person she thinks I am has a criminal record and I don't. This person doesn't even live in my state. If I bring suit against her it will reveal my true name and (with my real name and address) she could quite possibly find other personal information about me and put it out on that site. I know this all probably sounds confusing so here is a link to the site I'm talking about:

https://www.badbuyerlist.org/buyer/e...04668b2302e18d

Just be advised that there is a lot of her vulgarity and profanity on it. She's gloating about me not being able to sell anything because she thinks I'm still suspended when in reality my account is in vacation mode so that she can't cause any more damage. The report was created by an Ebay seller that she tried to screw over before she found me on Amazon. All of my entries are the ones with "UPDATE" in the comment section.

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@Mallory,

it's kind of cute the way you start the post with TO: "username" :) old school...props :thumb:

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You can say it was a DBA possibly?. People do it all the time.
And its close to harassment and stalking if she is doxxing you.

And...I read some of that stuff.. wow.. she is looney toony

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TO: BIGCJ

Okay...I'm going to show my stupidity here but what is "doxxing"?

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TO: NEWJERSEYMAX

I was reading the sites and watching the YouTube videos on Charles Fitch that you referred me to and something stood out. In one of the videos the moderator says that Charles hides behind many websites he owns hosted by Cloudflare. That's the same company who is hosting "badbuyerlist.org" - the website that the Amazon seller is attacking me on. From what I've been reading Cloudflare is a shady organization and does nothing to stop Fitch from saying whatever he wants on his sites. I did reach out to the administrator of the buyer review site to ask them to remove all of the slanderous content but I now understand why I can't get anyone to take any action. If Cloudflare has anything to do with that site then maybe they don't care. I sure hope this lady doesn't take her vendetta with me to the lengths that Charles has taken his with the people he's bullying.

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The thing is this daft cow might escalate, the more you do to her...
Maybe stick to police report for now, and try and get her thrown off the various commerce sites as a buyer/seller at least, get any negs taken off.....she can re-register of course.

Not sure if she has genuinely lost the plot or is just vindictive.....not sure which is worst...

If you cannot do it all with police report, then suppose legal action is all you are left with.

The threats to your person and property are probably just threats hopefully....she is not local is she?

I often see at the bottom of google, a legal notice about stuff that has been removed from being cached on the search engine, so you mentioned your address was posted online - so you contact the website it is on first, if no luck move on to the search engine providers, all I know is you can apply to google to do this, probably need at least a police report, so research that....it only comes off your own Country site though, not international........

I agree she should not know your name if possible, she can do more damage with it....

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The police will not do anything for you. If she scammed you out of some vhs tapes I would just turn the page and move on. Assuming they were inexpensive to purchase.
I have experience with civil matters like this and even with a judgement in your favor. There is no way to collect reparations. It is easy to go down this rabbit hole be careful , time is money and this process will rob you of this as well.
If people already have criminal records and did not bother paying to have them expunged, then she does not care. And I would assume also dose not care about her credit. You have no leverage.

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"Note: A few days later I found all of the so-called damaged and non-received items available for sale in this buyers Amazon store)."

Maybe a silly question: unlike on eBay, on Amazon a buyer account and seller account are not explicitly displayed under the same ID. If I know a buyer's ID, how can I visit his/her seller page? In other words, how do you "link" them to conclude that both belong the same person?

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Searching for that name, I found this:
http://abc7chicago.com/news/round-la...tution/833164/

Headline: Round Lake woman, 66, charged with prostitution

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TO: OOMPALOOPA

I've pretty much decided to stick with the police report. While they may not be able to do anything for me at least I have it documented on record of the two dates that this crazy woman and her husband have the planned attacks on my house. I am going to follow up with Amazon today (I have contacts in their Seller Escalations department who are handling my case against this lady) to see if they will remove her from the site permanently. This lady is not local. I am in Texas and she is in Illinois however she posted early this morning the following:

"..I'VE GOT ULTIMATE NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! I'M MOVING DOWN TO TEXAS TO HELP MY BOYFRIEND IN HIS STORE IN DALLAS!!! I'M MOVING PERMANETLY! I WILL BE THERE BEFORE A MONTH IS UP!! YOU'RE IN FOR SOME DELIGHTS NOW THAT I'M MOVING THERE!! WHAT A SURPRISE CHANGE! I BET I'LL REALLY GET TO KNOW YOU! THIS ALL IS THANKS TO YOU BECAUSE OF LAST WEEKS VISIT!! I'M SOOO GRATEFUL!! I'M MOVING!! TEXAS, HERE I COME!! ALSO MANY MORE MEN WILL COME IN TEXAS!...

I have no idea what she means by "..THIS ALL IS THANKS TO YOU BECAUSE OF LAST WEEKS VISIT!!". Her husband/ex-husband (not sure which he is) is upset with me because he thinks I put his phone number on that site when the page in question wasn't even created by me. It was created by an Ebay seller that she tried to scam. I'm not even sure if her husband did any posting on the site or if it was her pretending to be him (she pretends to be so many people - vice cop, retired military, etc.). There is no jewelry store in Dallas who knows who she or her husband is. I've called all of the stores with a name even remotely close to the one she claims and nobody has heard of either of them. The name that she has on me that she "outed" on that site is not me but as long as she thinks it is then I'll let her run with it.

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TO: AUCTION KING

In the beginning I wasn't even concerned about the stuff she ordered. I was willing to work with her 100% even though I knew I was being scammed. I didn't stand my ground until the email threats and bogus feedback were reported and my account was suspended. No way was I going to give in at that point. All I really wanted to do was make it difficult for her to run this scam on the next person. I think so much attention has been drawn to this at Amazon that at least she won't be able to do it there again. Unfortunately, I'm left with the fallout and I now have to deal with this wacko.

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TO: CHAICHAOYI

I already knew about the prostitution conviction. When my account got suspended I went on a search to try and figure out exactly who this buyer is. I already had her address (although it was a PO Box) and knew what state she lived in.

Ironically about this time I also had my eye on a seller who kept popping up on a lot of my listings for about 6-8 months. I had no idea at the time that this seller would be linked to all of this mess. The seller was in Illinois. I did a Google search on her name as well as the name of her Amazon store. The prostitution arrest and the reports filed on the bad buyer list site came up with an address also in Illinois. I started wondering if the buyer I sold to and the seller I was keeping an eye on were one in the same. As it turned out they were. I now knew that this lady was my competitor and was watching my store and business website to see what I was selling.

I looked on her Amazon storefront and a lot of the same things I was selling..she was selling. So her goal was to get me removed from Amazon by filing bogus claims and feedback and in the process she would try to get some of my stuff for free as a buyer. I don't think she thought I would ever put two and two together and figure out who she was and what she was doing. I think there were sellers before me on both Ebay and Amazon (more than who have reported her) who probably gave into her bullying tactics to save their accounts and I didn't do that. I fought back. I think that is what set her off.

P.S. I saw the comment that you put on that site. She's going to think it was me and she's going have a lot to say about it so check back this evening. I'm sure you'll get an eyeful. :shocked:

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This is why I don't respond to people once they get ugly. Don't feed the troll. She is obviously feeding off your reactions.

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TO: NEWJERSEYMAX

I agree with you. I decided that it's better to just walk away and not comment further. I think it upsets her more knowing that I'm not engaging in this verbal warfare. That forum has given her a voice to rant and spew filth and target me and I'm not going down to that level. I continue to check it just to make sure that more personal information about me isn't put out there.

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I just read the Amazon Ghost manual and whoever said setting up a new Amazon account is easy has an IQ much higher than mine. I worked in IT for about 5 years doing hardware/software installation and support and this manual made my head spin. I may have to read it several times before it all makes sense. If I have a laptop that is brand new, straight out of the box, and unused...could I use that to create a new account since that unit wouldn't have any "history" attached to it? If so, what steps can I skip in the Ghost setup?

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TO: CHAICHAOYI

You should go take a look at the website to see what new comments this crazy woman left in response to the message you posted. She thinks it was me who posted that comment with the prostitution link. I knew she would. She has absolutely gone off the deep end.

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I think a new laptop and also new or changed ip address would be fine for amazon.
Plus all new other info.

I do not see why you should have to re-register a seller account, a stealth is always going to be second-best in terms of verifications eg. ID etc than your original a real account. Ironically though a stealth would be more anon and a case like this is a good example of being anon to a nutter...but still, being banned by amazon is one thing, but having to start again because of a village idiot is another.....

I think it is all idle threats though........she gets a sense of power from it all

at least you have been able to vent here......

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TO: OOMPALOOMPA

I had a conversation with a rep at Amazon's Seller Escalation Department and they have read the entire conversation from the link I provided as well as looked at her buyer history with me when this whole ordeal started. She tells me it will only be a matter of time before this buyer/seller is banned indefinitely and she gave me the steps to take to ensure that my account remains intact if this woman were to try to compromise it. I'm glad I finally found someone who will be on my side. I have felt very isolated lately.