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Currently have 4 accounts going on the same computer.

One account was hit with this tonight:

We took this action because it has come to our attention that you have attempted to bypass our seller review process by opening new accounts.

However, my other accounts are all fine, and none are in review. Any idea what would trigger this?

Heres what I have done

-New User Account
-New Debit Card
-New Phone Number
-New Name
-New Address
-Selling different items than my other accounts
-Dial up net, so new IP

I wasn't hit with a review, just a swift suspension after selling a few items

How long has each account been a Active Seller Account?

2 of the accounts have been up for a few days, they are fine.

The other 2 were created tonight, and one was hit with that. The other is still fine.

Account was up a few hours.

They new you opened other accounts so maybe you signed in from same ip and user on accident or maybe they're tracking mac addresses now.

I make sure to disconnect from dial up everytime, and I logout not switch user, so no matter what new connection everytime.

Can they track mac address on a usb 56K modem?

Also, my other accounts on the same unit are still fine.

I don't know, it looks like you opened other accounts with the same info.

Come on now, once again not possible. I am not getting an account linked message. If I opened two accounts with any of the same info they would have closed both.

This is the only one affected.

Amazon can also check your Hardware IDs, Serial Number of your Windows System.

In my case, only a different User-ID on the same Windows System will not work!

Disconnecting from dial up each time does not guarantee a new ip. Are you using an ip log?

they read your ip.That is it. you did not cover all the bases.They will not check your windows ip or hardware. It was the dial up. Dialup from another location mabe another state..

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Incorrect....
They DO check your MAC address

YES...
They do grab your MAC address.
EVERY dial-up modem has a MAC address
On my Laptop there are at least 3 MAC addresses that I can find with no problem.
There are another 2 MAC addresses that I have to dig to find.
So my laptop has a total of 5 MAC addresses.
Which ones are they looking at..... I am not sure yet.

Yes they can see the MAC address of your USB Modem.

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That's just what I was thinking.

Looks like I've got some work to do, all this time I haven't been hiding my mac address, that would probably make my accounts last alot longer.

I can say that I used dial up internet via NetZero. I kept a ip log for a month. Everytime I connect/disconnect I got new ip everytime. After the month I quit logging in because it was a fresh ip everytime. I had to let it go because it was so damn slow. Dialing into another state will NOT necessarily give you an ip from that state.

I don't think so. It's not proven.

The eBayStealth book says that they don't. Is the book just outdated then, or what?

They don't necesaraly check it with their bot system but they can easily check it manually like any other web site, the stealth guide is up to date but ebay can change at any time, it's just natural commen sense.

You've got to be doing something wrong... I create 10 accounts a day.... never had this happen.

The OP is talking about AMazon not ebay. I think they do check your mac address.Not sure. Here's a few discussions about it and it seems that it's not true. I dunno not saying it's right or wrong just relaying some info.



Mac Address , Visiable over Internet - Networking

Is your MAC address revealed when you hit up a website? - Super User

Amazon does check your mac address. Plain and simple.

How can this possibly be an issue of MAC? In my understanding, each computer has its own MAC. Therefore, if the reason that Unfortunate got nailed was Amazon detecting his MAC, all the accounts would be dunzo.

I have been nailed by MAC detecting software before, and it had nothing to do with the internet. It was all about the computer I was trying to log in from. Heres what happened. I had won a very large poker MTT on Full Tilt. A week later, Im playing with friends on a computer in the office. I get pissed and log out. I bring my friends laptop (who is suspended for life) upstairs and try to log back in. Im instantly shut down for trying to log in from the suspended users computer. The reason was Full Tilts automated system had my friends MAC address input into security as a banned MAC. Again, it had nothing to do with the MAC on the router or anything to do with the internet.

Yes, you are correct. It is the MAC on the computer not the router. I thought that is what we were talking about in the first place???

I guess there's alot of mixed veiw's going around, some say it's the mac on the router, some say computer and some say it's impossible for them to see a mac at all. If only there was somebody out there who could clear this up, much thanks in advance.

What happens if you have two modems? I have comcast everything. It comes with a phone modem. I told them I didn't like that so they came with a internet modem to help the signal. Then I hooked up the linksys router and I get my chosen mack address. It works weak like that so I constantly press the refresh button on the router to get it to work for basic surfing. Then when I'm done with Amazon etc.. I pull the router ethernet plug and put it back into the comcast modem and I get a new but always the same IP address with steady fast internet. Then I just use auctiva. I have no linking problems and I always make new accounts. But remember all three boxes are intertwined together throughout this and are always in a continual 'loop' at all times.

I don't have many problems with ebay using the same usb modem on ebay but for amazon sounds like I would need a new linksys router for each account.

Here is the low down and simple explanation on MAC addresses:
EBAY: Does NOT track your MAC address. They track a lot of stuff but NOT your MAC address.

AMAZON: Tracks all kinds of things INCLUDING your computers network MAC address.
You can usually get 2 accounts out of a machine before that machines MAC address is blacklisted.
After 2 accounts you must get a NEW MAC ADDRESS for that machine if you wish to continue using it for your Amazon accounts.

I should have asked this before... how do you get a new MAC address?

3 ways I know of are get a new linksys router, use Linux which makes it easy to change, or download a mac spoofer

ding - ding - ding - ding - ding - ding - ding - ding - ding - ding

Yeah I know that would be the easy way but I figured that only changed the mac on your computer, having a new linksys router would assure that they can't trace you to your modem as well, of course I could be wrong.

So my computer has a Mac address. My router when changed by me hides this. But Amazon can see through my 'weak' spoof when I change the Mac address on my linksys. I do have one suspension on each of the three PC's I have. So one more suspension and the other accounts I got running all get banned on that one PC? But if I choose to log in on a safe PC those remaining accounts are safe?

So you're saying you're using a mac spoofer along with a linksys router? Have you tried using a different router for each account? or you use the same one?

I thought changing your mac address inside the linksys IS spoofing.

yea I use the same one for everything and it sucks. But I don't have a second suspension on each computer yet. I have three, one on each. So the next suspension I'll know that it's true I guess.

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Not sure I haven't tried one yet, from what I've heard there's supposed to be a mac on your modem and 1 on your computer. I would of thought the router spoofs the mac on your modem then you can also download a macspoofer for your computer as well but I haven't tried it yet, I'm still trying to figure it out myself.

what about a wireless 3g type dongle mobile connection how do you change its details, as i have a mac spoofer and it does not work on this. also with this connection is it possible for them to read the IMEI, as i can not find anyway of changing this at all.

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From my understanding the MAC spoofing programs do not work on USB connection devices.
At least the one I use it does not.