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This is a follow up on HWGA post found here.
http://www.aspkin.com/forums/paypal-...tml#post164760

This comes directly from paypal themselves and I know this will answer questions that was previously brought up in the old post. Direct link here hxxps://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/marketingweb?cmd=_render-content&fli=true&content_ID=marketing_us/IRS6050W



What Is IRS 6050W?

Under the new legislation, PayPal will be required to report to the IRS the total payment volume received by PayPal customers in the US who:

* Receive more than $20,000 in gross payment volume in a single year, AND
* Receive 200 or more payments in a single year.

The IRS changes will apply to all payment providers, including PayPal. They will take effect on January 1, 2011, with the first reports going to the IRS in early 2012. Our goal is to help PayPal merchants to understand and comply with the new requirements.

If you meet the stated thresholds, you will be required to verify your identity by adding a SSN/TIN/EIN to your existing account. If you are currently using a Personal or Premier account, you will be required to upgrade to a Business account.

When Do the IRS Changes Go into Effect?

IRS 6050W covers all transactions in the tax year 2011 and each tax year that follows. Beginning in 2012, qualifying merchants will receive a 1099-K Form either electronically or by mail. Transactions occurring prior to 2011 will not be affected by this legislation.

Will All Merchants Receive 1099s?

No. Only merchants who receive over $20,000 in gross payment volume AND receive 200 or more payments in a calendar year will receive Form 1099-K electronically or by mail.

How Will I Know if IRS 6050W Impacts Me?

If a merchant meets both thresholds by receiving over $20,000 in gross payment volume AND 200 or more payments in a calendar year, PayPal will send Form 1099-K electronically or by mail for the 2011 tax year. This document will be made available in January 2012.

What does PayPal need from a Merchant as a result of the IRS changes?

Starting in 2010, PayPal will be asking impacted merchants to update their account by adding their SSN/TIN/EIN to their existing account(s). This information will only be requested from merchants that are potentially impacted by these requirements. If you are required to add this info, we will notify you via email and include an alert in your Account Overview.

How Do I Read a 1099?

PayPal is working with its merchants to help them understand the new requirements. Please refer to the links section on this site for more info on the process and forms. Also keep an eye out for upcoming information updates.

Will I Be Affected by the 2011 Tax Changes if I Only Meet One of the Thresholds?

No. A merchant has to pass BOTH thresholds ($20,000 in gross sales volume and 200 transactions) in 2011 to qualify for the new requirements. A business receiving $10,000 in payments per year would not be affected by the new requirements.

Will PayPal Help Me with My Tax Return?

While we're committed to helping our customers understand the 2011 tax changes, PayPal is not qualified to give you specific tax guidance. Please contact a tax professional.

What can I expect from PayPal?

This is an important legislative change for online sellers, so we want to provide clear and helpful information. We'll update this site frequently with more FAQs and resource links to help you make sense of IRS 6050W.

Are non-profit organizations affected by the new IRS Tax Law 6050W?

Non-profits are treated the same as for-profits. Non-profits will be required to submit their SSN/TIN/EIN as well. Non-profit merchants will need to work with their tax professional to determine how they will need to file their taxes going forward, if they aren’t already.

Are personal payment transactions received counted in the total that will be reported to the IRS?

Yes. All payments received by an account will be used when calculating the total payment volume received.

How is the $20,000 calculated? Will it be calculated based on net or gross transaction earnings?

The $20,000 will be calculated by looking at a merchant’s gross sales volume.

Who is the Business Contact Name?

The Business Contact Name is the individual’s name that was provided to the IRS when applying for your TIN or EIN. This is the name that should be listed on your account when verifying your identity. If the name listed on your account is not correct, please upload or fax your documents by following the links on your account.

What is a SSN/TIN/EIN?

SSN = Social Security Number
TIN = Tax Identification Number
EIN – Employee Identification Number
Depending on your business type, all three of these numbers can be used to verify your identity with the IRS.

Will I have to upgrade to a business account?

If you meet the thresholds outlined by the IRS and are currently using a Personal or Premier account, we ask that you upgrade to a Business account. The upgrade process is quick, easy and free and provides you with more access to helpful PayPal features and products. Upgrade now.

What happens if I don’t verify my identity?

If you do not verify your identity, a restriction will be placed on your account until you do so. You will be unable to send, receive or withdraw funds from your account until you verify your identity.

If I have multiple accounts that, when combined, meet the thresholds, but individually they don’t, will I still qualify?

Yes. PayPal and all other payment processors will report sales and transaction volume to the IRS by SSN/TIN/EIN.

For example, if you have two accounts tied to the same SSN/TIN/EIN with the following payment levels:

* Account A - $18,000 in sales and 180 transactions
* Account B - $2,000 in sales and 20 transactions

Your accounts will qualify under the new regulation.

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Thanks!

Excellent Info!


There really isn't any workaround to this neither...
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I fall under this new threshold and will eventually submit to their demands if I don't do something. Options are opening multiples Paypal/Ebay accounts with different info and stay under the $20,000 / 200 items radar to avoid providing a SSN # and verifying Identity. People with Stealth Accounts will need to do this as I see no other options around it.

If you still have a Close Family Member that have a good standing account and is willing to do things for you then I suggest you treat that account as GOLD.
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May be a dumb question, but does this affect Canadians at all?
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i dont see this bothering to many people with stealth abilities.You just dont let it reach 200 sales
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Has anybody been asked to provide a SSN yet? I get the notice at the top of one of my accounts occasionally, but I haven't been forced to add a SSN yet.
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May be a dumb question, but does this affect Canadians at all?
No. It does not.
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<<<If you meet the stated thresholds, you will be required to verify your identity by adding a SSN/TIN/EIN to your existing account. If you are currently using a Personal or Premier account, you will be required to upgrade to a Business account.>>>

So if in 2010 you meet the threshhold of 20k, and 200, at the start of 2011 January, will you be required to provide this information to paypal so that at the end of 2011 they can send you a 1099k? Or will they demand the SS information at the end of 2011?

When they accumulate all the id verification, do they send this off to the gov't, or only if you trigger the 20k/220 mark?

Still confused!!!!
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<<<If you meet the stated thresholds, you will be required to verify your identity by adding a SSN/TIN/EIN to your existing account. If you are currently using a Personal or Premier account, you will be required to upgrade to a Business account.>>>

So if in 2010 you meet the threshhold of 20k, and 200, at the start of 2011 January, will you be required to provide this information to paypal so that at the end of 2011 they can send you a 1099k? Or will they demand the SS information at the end of 2011?

When they accumulate all the id verification, do they send this off to the gov't, or only if you trigger the 20k/220 mark?

Still confused!!!!
No one knows for sure yet, have to wait till they clarify things. Probably won't be required SSN till your approaching the threshold.
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Another angle to this whole situation is not only will the feds have access to your sales/revenue, Im sure the state will also get a copy of the 1099k. This probably means that you are going to have to collect sales tax, and pay it to the state you are doing business in.
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Dam..........I hate Taxes!!!
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What happens for sales before this year if no taxes were paid? Will they be reported to the IRS?
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What happens for sales before this year if no taxes were paid? Will they be reported to the IRS?
No but you should be filing your taxes anyways, don't want to mess with the IRS. Can file a amended return and report unreported income
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