| | | Gman91189 | 10-30-2011 01:07 AM | Ems works best for me they go through customs but never seized however also used dhl in the pass without probs |
| HurricaneHuntr | 10-30-2011 09:38 AM | Just had 2 out of the last 2 packages hit inbound....Still waiting. First is at 4th day in customs... Hoping it clears soon, it's been a good 7-8 months since i had a package even go into customs.So something tells me they are on a crackdown of some sort on packages coming in... Doesn't mean anything, other than they go through a scan and either they pass or they don't. |
| HurricaneHuntr | 10-31-2011 07:42 AM | october 26th parcel cleared... 4.5 days later |
| HurricaneHuntr | 10-31-2011 02:29 PM | Other out for delivery skipped starifht from inbound to out for delivery..lol
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| beneysz | 11-14-2011 09:13 AM | EMS definatley, all the packages i ship out to my customers from here in china are ems, its much cheaper and for some reason is checked less by cutoms than DHL or other companies.
Get in touch if i can help with anything from here. |
| teedon | 11-17-2011 08:47 AM | If you are safe to receive your packages for last 10 times and then you can contiute to use it.Since EMS and DHL,HKEMS have the same chance to get seized shipping vero products. |
| slappzilla | 11-17-2011 09:08 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by teedon
(Post 287486)
If you are safe to receive your packages for last 10 times and then you can contiute to use it.Since EMS and DHL,HKEMS have the same chance to get seized shipping vero products. | see, the part I bolded, that just cannot be true.
Ask anyone who gets stuff from China on the regular, then ask them about receiving items via DHL and EMS. Damn near every person will have a story about a DHL order getting seized, while few of them will have a story about a EMS delivery being seized.
I'm not saying EMS packages don't go through customs, because they do obviously, but the seize rate is much, much higher via DHL.
Not saying I'm a pro and know everything, but from first hand accounts, and from reading what others have said in this sub forum, no way a package sent via EMS has the same chance of being seized as it does going DHL. |
I always go with ems. DHL and EMS is about the same delivery time for me. |
| Callidus | 11-18-2011 10:48 AM | I had a parcel come to the UK on Thursday from China via EMS... seized!
I shipped in before 8kg of vero items from China every 2 days about 10 months ago via EMS lost 1 out of many.
DHL parcel came through today fine. So im none the wiser.
If anyone from the UK knows any top tips of getting parcels through with VeRo items please mail me :) |
| slappzilla | 11-18-2011 01:43 PM | Might have been the unfortunate victim of a random search.
Either that or your supplier did something different on the paperwork to raise on eyebrow. Still, one out of many, I wouldn't sweat it. |
| Callidus | 11-18-2011 03:30 PM | slappzilla,
The thing is I am worried of whether to import small/big packages of vero items now as I think it could all go tits up.
Do you think if I important everyday for the next week, what odds are there do you think of being seized from your experience? |
| beneysz | 11-19-2011 04:51 AM | hdavey10 - vero items whilst offering great profits, always carry a risk as customs check packages randomly so it might be the case that all your packages get through, or that their checked.
Just an opinion but tell your supplier to mark down a reasonable/realisitic value for the goods i.e. not $10 for a massive box. Marked as gift is standard really.
Dont lie about what the items are as they go through scanners, smaller packages obviously better than larger, if your address has already done been done for vero items this will also increase the chances of the stuff being seized.
Its all obvious stuff really -hope this helps. |
| Callidus | 11-19-2011 08:18 AM | They offer amazing profits in fact! :)
However, do you think at customs they would just always pick out the biggest boxes to inspect ? or is it literally random?
Im thinking of dropshipping from China via DHL, putting the type of product on the box e.g. Headphones and a realistic value and it should be okay! (Fingers Crossed)
So the overall thought is with my parcel last week that I was very unlucky on my EMS parcel getting seized seeing as before it was all ok.
Beneysz you got any ideas on what i've said? |
| beneysz | 11-19-2011 08:49 AM | Yeh the biggest boxes with small amounts declared are probably going to be inspected first as obviously customs want to make sure their getting their fair share!
Then re the vero stuff the inspections are random checks, although perhaps key things might trigger suspicions i.e. 20 hanbags and wallets coming from China/HK, watches, trainers etc.
If its electronics, described accuratley with a realisitc value, much less suspect, then it would be down to luck as to whether they decide to have a quick peek inside! |
| slappzilla | 11-19-2011 09:32 AM | I only receive 2-3 shipments a week, 12 items at the most in each package, just for the reason being I don't want to go to big and draw attention.
Now that your address is on file, I'd open a PO Box. Open it under a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ business name. |
| ingle92protege | 11-19-2011 09:35 AM | If the supplier is any decent, they will send you two separate packages in one big order so there is no problems |
| Callidus | 11-19-2011 09:47 AM | Do you think that maybe the big boxes with a realistic value could be ok as long as they know there is going to be some tax on it they would ignore it or still look?
Yes I deal with all electronics and there are risks but just as risky as running a business with premises having to pay rent, your losing your goods to customs on the odd occassion.
Beneysz - do you ship from China? |
| beneysz | 11-19-2011 10:05 AM | As ingle92protege said better to do a couple of smaller boxes still marking realistic value. minimising your risk.
Yeh i ship goods from china on a daily basis. |
| Callidus | 11-19-2011 10:51 AM | beneysz - dont you think sending 12 items in a box is just as risky as sending 75 items in 2 boxes like i saw my chinese supplier packaging up to come to the UK. The order of 75 isnt for me but I dont think 2 packages like that will get into the UK unless they state a realistic value. Dont you think ? |
| beneysz | 11-19-2011 12:05 PM | It really depends what it is, if we're still talking about consumer electronics, exact same items, then definatley i think 12pcs would get though a lot easier than 75pcs in 2 boxes.
The value has to be realistic, if you put a low value to try and avoid charges, this will create more incentive to inspect. In any case if its a big quantity of anything that could be dubious theyl probably be tempted to open it anyways.
I think to spread the goods over as many boxes as possible and declare a reasonable value is the best way forward. |
| heyhappy | 02-27-2012 04:18 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by slappzilla
(Post 288143)
I only receive 2-3 shipments a week, 12 items at the most in each package, just for the reason being I don't want to go to big and draw attention.
Now that your address is on file, I'd open a PO Box. Open it under a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ business name. | I am new to this forum. If you open a PO Box, what is the largest parcel the post office will take? Sometimes my boxes are 3ft x 2ft. I have had very bad luck lately using DHL through Los Angeles. Have received three letters in the past 3 months. I feel like I am blacklisted at DHL, but am concerned that there is a customs blacklist system wide. Using EMS now, but am still very anxious. |
| unkown5454 | 02-27-2012 08:21 PM | Your packages must be light then because I thought USPS limit was 70lbs. |
| DogFacedBoy | 02-28-2012 12:23 AM | My last order was placed thinking it would come EMS because it was smaller. Seller messages me that it will be coming DHL...I write him back saying NO!!!!...the last three attempts to different addresses all got seized.
He says not to worry it is a smaller package.
Sure enough, 3 days later it was here safe and sound.
It's been a couple of weeks now and I'm thinking that it should be safe to re-order to the same address as the last |
| Sandy D | 02-28-2012 01:43 AM | This thread makes me think harder then I want to.
Getting ready to make a first ever overseas order and was going with DHL but now have second thoughts. |
| Ebayorbust | 02-28-2012 01:53 AM | I've never had issues with either (touch wood). DHL is definitely faster but I always get hit with customs duty / VAT. With EMS, far more shipments come through with no charges to pay. |
| Callidus | 02-29-2012 04:25 PM | Ebayorbust the above you have said about charges is very grey because I receive lots of lower amounts of VAT and TAX via DHL and very high amount with EMS |
| Ebayorbust | 02-29-2012 04:37 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by hdavey10
(Post 316545)
Ebayorbust the above you have said about charges is very grey because I receive lots of lower amounts of VAT and TAX via DHL and very high amount with EMS | Nothing grey about it at all.
I have received several packages valued at around £50. DHL have always collected charges on this amount. I have yet to pay charges on anything delivered via EMS.
This is my experience of both companies. Yours may be different but doesn't make what I've said "grey".
Of course the charges levied against counterfeit phone cases maybe different. :D |
| heyhappy | 03-06-2012 12:12 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by unkown5454
(Post 315873)
Your packages must be light then because I thought USPS limit was 70lbs. | The packages usually weigh 30-40 lbs. I got a box (EMS) on Saturday. It had even been re-taped by USPS because it had busted open a bit. Still came though... Wondering if a P.O. box would really make any difference. All I know is DHL seized three packages in less than two months, and I only get packages sent to my address once or twice a month. I figure my address or the supplier is on some sort of blacklist at DHL. I have received three letters from customs, although one was for a package that wasn't even mine! Had my address but a wrong name. My products came the following week... weird... |
| teedon | 03-08-2012 10:32 AM | Hey happy,
According to your issue with DHL recently ,your address and name may have been blacklisted by the usa custom ,so you had better do not use the address and name within 6 months.
You may get a PO BOX for EMS using.And they even can deliver you on the weekend but DHL won't |
| heyhappy | 03-09-2012 12:08 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by teedon
(Post 319021)
Hey happy,
According to your issue with DHL recently ,your address and name may have been blacklisted by the usa custom ,so you had better do not use the address and name within 6 months.
You may get a PO BOX for EMS using.And they even can deliver you on the weekend but DHL won't | Thanks for the info! Do you know what USPS PO box maximum size package is? I can't seem to find that information online. My packages wouldn't fit in any PO box! Usually around 2x3 and 30-40 lbs. |
| teedon | 03-11-2012 12:05 PM | You can call the USPS to deliver the goods to you when you are nearby the PO BOX. |
| teedon | 03-11-2012 12:06 PM | Or you can go to the post office to get it and they will hold the packages for you if the post office is not too far. |
| heyhappy | 03-14-2012 11:21 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by teedon
(Post 320151)
Or you can go to the post office to get it and they will hold the packages for you if the post office is not too far. | Do you know if DHL and EMS/USPS share the same 'Black List' when packages go through customs? |
| unkown5454 | 03-14-2012 06:08 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by heyhappy
(Post 321266)
Do you know if DHL and EMS/USPS share the same 'Black List' when packages go through customs? | Customs is its own organization. Each courier does not have its own customs department. It's all under one massive US Government umbrella... |
| heyhappy | 03-15-2012 10:07 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by unkown5454
(Post 321443)
Customs is its own organization. Each courier does not have its own customs department. It's all under one massive US Government umbrella... | I was under the impression that DHL has a customs area on site and that DHL runs it (of course under US Customs guide lines). I have also heard that there are 'incentives' for the DHL in particular, which is one reason why there are so many more seizures there. Not sure if that is true of not! |
| unkown5454 | 03-15-2012 04:44 PM | Oh, well, I definitely agree there are favors given to the big players like DHL. |
| slappzilla | 03-16-2012 11:01 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by unkown5454
(Post 321443)
Customs is its own organization. Each courier does not have its own customs department. It's all under one massive US Government umbrella... | If that's true, how come packages shipped via DHL and Fedex get seized far more often than EMS? |
| sergfro | 03-16-2012 12:54 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by slappzilla
(Post 322009)
If that's true, how come packages shipped via DHL and Fedex get seized far more often than EMS? | Because those packages tend to be bigger and heavier than EMS packages |
| heyhappy | 03-17-2012 12:07 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by sergfro
(Post 322046)
Because those packages tend to be bigger and heavier than EMS packages | I would have to disagree on that one. The majority of my packages are about the same size (give or take a couple of pounds) and I had three seizures at DHL in a two month period. |
| error | 03-23-2012 10:27 AM | Why I choose DHL - China to Missouri in ONE day! Quote:
Friday, March 23, 2012 Location Time
13 With delivery courier KANSAS CITY, MO - USA 09:58
12 Arrived at Delivery Facility in KANSAS CITY - USA KANSAS CITY, MO - USA 08:42
11 Arrived at Sort Facility KANSAS CITY - USA KANSAS CITY, MO - USA 08:15
10 Departed Facility in CINCINNATI HUB - USA CINCINNATI HUB, OH - USA 06:22
9 Processed at CINCINNATI HUB - USA CINCINNATI HUB, OH - USA 03:25
8 Clearance processing complete at CINCINNATI HUB - USA CINCINNATI HUB, OH - USA 02:51
7 Arrived at Sort Facility CINCINNATI HUB - USA CINCINNATI HUB, OH - USA 02:47
Thursday, March 22, 2012 Location Time
6 Departed Facility in HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 21:40
5 Processed at HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 21:32
4 Arrived at Sort Facility HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 18:56
3 Departed Facility in HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 18:42
2 Processed at HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 18:42
1 Shipment picked up HONG KONG - HONG KONG 14:15
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