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oge 02-24-2012 02:31 PM

Did you talk to a supervisor? Or was this the customer service or security dept? I'm sure if you talk to a supervisor and tell them that you "didn't know" and to send it back to pp or see if they will close the account something will work.

LoopHole 02-24-2012 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oge (Post 315041)
This happens all day on prepaid cards they freeze the account but I had them send it

back to pp a few times and the account didn't get limited and even limited accounts this

happened as well just sent back. Also I used HSBC and they froze the account closed it

and they sent me a cashiers check for the balance one of these scenarios will apply to you

good luck!

Yeah... that is what i would imagine happens in these situations... they close the account and send you a check. There is no way in hell i would let them keep my money like that.

Gman91189 02-24-2012 02:37 PM

Wasn't a rep, it was from fraud dept, she said she couldn't release the funds because they technally wasn't mine (wasn't coming in under my name)

Gman91189 02-24-2012 02:37 PM

SO DID I, I figured they would just send a check and close the accounts end of story

Gman91189 02-24-2012 02:39 PM

I wonder what would happen if i call and said its not possible for paypal ti reverse the funds, only add money back to the account, then what

Gman91189 02-24-2012 02:43 PM

I tried making a small purchase online and debit card got declined, I know I deff won't be able to use the debit card

LoopHole 02-24-2012 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gman91189 (Post 315054)
Wasn't a rep, it was from fraud dept, she said she couldn't release the funds because they technally wasn't mine (wasn't coming in under my name)

I would of told them that their the ones committing fraud for trying to steal my money... and asked them what they were going to do with it.... Wait to see what Greenbean has to say on this.... she knows everything.

Gman91189 02-24-2012 02:46 PM

Come on down GREENBEAN.....

oge 02-24-2012 02:56 PM

Here goes a similar story check it out http://www.aspkin.com/forums/paypal-...hcard-too.html

yotano211 02-24-2012 02:57 PM

I used to work for a large investment bank and would sometimes get cases like these, but under the rules of the SEC. The money has to be given back to the person on file with the account after certain days pass. Investment banks work under different rules or laws, I don't know if it applies to residential banks.

Gman91189 02-24-2012 03:02 PM

That's what I'm thinking, its not possible for them to just KEEP it and call it a day, ima call again and say its not possible for pp to refund the withdrawal and call my bank, then I wanna c what she has to say

yotano211 02-24-2012 03:09 PM

Don't get your hopes up, like I said, investment banks work under different rules and laws. They usually get away with a lot more stuff then the normal residential bank. And larger amounts of money is always involved, which means more trouble for banks in forms of lawsuits or lawyers breathing down their necks from clients.

yotano211 02-24-2012 03:16 PM

I'll ask my old boss at Morgan Stanley at what he knows or say anything about this. But he hasn't worked at a residential bank in 20+years. Laws change so much every year. Give me about an hour or two.

Gman91189 02-24-2012 03:20 PM

I spoke to the supervisor and stated the only way to "get the money back" is to reverse the deposits.
And meaning the same deposits, in other words, I can't "add money" back to paypal only reverse the transactions that were already made

Gman91189 02-24-2012 03:29 PM

If i were to call pp and try to c if they could return the refunds, would that work, I don't care if pp limits the accounts I would still be able to get the funds after 180days
But would it even be possible

seanws30 02-24-2012 03:31 PM

at this point i think i would try anything to get the money

Gman91189 02-24-2012 04:57 PM

Like I expected pp can't reverse the withdrawal and they tell me to speak with my bank, GREAT
So I'm goin back and forth now...
Trying something now, I sent all my money away from that pp account(just in case I get limited) and begun a transaction to add money to the pp account from the bank.
What I'm guessing will happen is the bank will deny that because it is restricted, but who knoes,
If it works, what I'm hoping will happen is the bank allows the transfer back to the pp account.
Which will limit my account, but at least after 180days I'll still have my money

GreenBean 02-24-2012 05:26 PM

For starters stop SPEAKING and running around in circles.

This is exactly what Fraud Departments of banks do.

They are 'working you' to see if there is anything more sinister.

And they 'hooked' you right in.

Not time to despair yet.

Gman91189 02-24-2012 05:48 PM

Soon, what does that mean, hooked me right in into what, they saw deposits coming in with mismatched names and asked what they are for, I said for services I provide them with long story short can't even know the balance of my accounts

bansheezone 02-24-2012 05:59 PM

I got beat when this happened to me, so you already know whats up. Ally sucks as a company trust me.

LoopHole 02-24-2012 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bansheezone (Post 315104)
I got beat when this happened to me, so you already know whats up. Ally sucks as a company trust me.

So your saying they took your money and you never saw it again????

Gman91189 02-24-2012 08:16 PM

Yea tell me about it, hopefully I could at least get the funds back to paypal

degsey69 02-24-2012 09:00 PM

Just a word of caution when opening up accounts like ally, it is the way you use them that determines how they view the account holder, in all the accounts that I have like this I put other money in as well and pay some bills by direct payment so everything is comingled. However if you run the accounts to just use the debit cards to draw cash then you have set the pattern, they are not stupid they look for patterns of behaviour on accounts.

FandangoKango 02-25-2012 12:19 AM

I once had rushcard prepaid card services hold my deposits because it eas coming under a different first name even though the last name was the same and they didn't allow this. I told them reverse the funds then and I just found another bank. It was said time with time ally bank doesn't like this and you will get closed eventually.

sergfro 02-25-2012 01:12 PM

I hope my 6 ally accounts dont get closed. So far so good though

FandangoKango 02-25-2012 11:22 PM

I think its a hit and miss with ally bank. Of course Im not gonna use that bank more than 1 account from what I have heard.

FandangoKango 02-25-2012 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gman91189 (Post 315103)
Soon, what does that mean, hooked me right in into what, they saw deposits coming in with mismatched names and asked what they are for, I said for services I provide them with long story short can't even know the balance of my accounts

How did you explain to them the different names coming and what did they say?

bansheezone 02-26-2012 02:48 AM

well so far my allys have been staying with a low number cause of this post but.

doughboykilla 02-26-2012 10:44 AM

Pp could reverse it if u had some disputes in your paypal and no any funds in the account to cover it then they will go for funds from the bank account.

Gman91189 02-28-2012 12:35 PM

Well what's the difference of giving buyers the money then the bank, I still won't see it lol, but the can't reverse the withdrawls is my point

doughboykilla 02-28-2012 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gman91189 (Post 316096)
Well what's the difference of giving buyers the money then the bank, I still won't see it lol, but the can't reverse the withdrawls is my point

Some buyers might be nice enough to resend u payment if u let them know whats going on I had did this in the past with customers of mine.

Ballsack 02-28-2012 06:45 PM

Good idea.

LoopHole 03-01-2012 03:24 PM

Any updates from the bank???

Gman91189 03-02-2012 12:58 PM

No, no luck, I tried to deposit money back from the bank to the pp account, but bank declined the transaction, don't know what else to do I'm stuck:ballchain:

doughboykilla 03-02-2012 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gman91189 (Post 317106)
No, no luck, I tried to deposit money back from the bank to the pp account, but bank declined the transaction, don't know what else to do I'm stuck:ballchain:

Looks like the Ally bank employess dont want to let go of that game share bonus that they get from the money they stole from u and others alike.

degsey69 03-02-2012 01:48 PM

Have you thought of telling them that the name was your business and you are 'doing business as'

lhall5422 03-03-2012 12:02 AM

I know this is after the fact but, I opened an ally acct and am wondering, if I call and tell them I may receive some deposits in another name and give them my stealth name, could that possibly open the door for those deposits? :noidea:

bansheezone 03-03-2012 01:16 AM

I use Ally, and have not had issues. Build up checking accounts like you would eBay and Paypal slowly. Leave money in there, pay a bill or 2 act like a real person banking.

newjerseymax 03-03-2012 06:39 PM

I like the idea of paying some bills....

Are these all checking accounts or Savings?

MY GF works fraud department in bank and I will ask her about this. She has bank account with ally also.... And it is stealth different name... She got flagged from get go and had to call in, where I have several accounts and I was able to do everything online.

We had a big laugh about this....The irony...

Comparing notes and her conversations from fraud lady to fraud lady we found out that the big difference was I opened savings and she opened checking. Checking accounts are looked at differently and much higher risk because of the instant access to funds...

Hope that helps a bit with future accounts...

Gman91189 03-03-2012 06:55 PM

yea, sucks when you cant open other accounts!


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