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Mzgr3k0 03-14-2012 06:11 PM

Lol! Proving identity to pp with stealth info!???
 
Hello all...
Ok I'm just gonna give you a quick debriefing for where I am at.
-opened a new Pp and eb about November last year.
-Verified the bank account with eBay to increase my limits.
-I let it sit until feb without sales.. Whilst browsing for random stuff and bidding on random stuff I'll never win.
-I sold a few things . So eg; in the past month and a half I have had approx $1,500 worth of sales. But
... I am not making listings in the same category. Eg; when my first ever item was a phone, then old car seats, then a watch, then an iPad stand, then a bag.
.. So, the first item I waited 2 weeks before I withdrew to my bankacc then the next about a week and 3 or four days for the last couple.. I am always leaving about $150 in pp
Then I get the horrible horrible thing on my pp saying "your account has been restricted"

Confirm your identity.
-confirm credit card.
-confirm identity
-confirm address
-supplier info
-proof of ownership of items
-invoices
-proof of shipment

WTF!
This acc is completely stealth.
With a name variation and an address that is about 5 houses away from mine.
How on earth do you prove your identity with stealth info? And.... What have I done wrong that this has happened!? I have got $590 frozen in pp .. What now?
I'm not to sure if eb is Involved in this problem or If it's just pp .

NoneOther 03-14-2012 06:35 PM

Give them what they want.

How do you think everybody else does it?

biggunn 03-14-2012 06:40 PM

A name variation isn't really stealth... Your problem is that you did not go 100% stealth. You probably got manually reviewed or the ebay/pp "brain" picked up on something. Manual reviews easily spot variations on names and such.

Mzgr3k0 03-14-2012 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biggunn (Post 321456)
A name variation isn't really stealth... Your problem is that you did not go 100% stealth. You probably got manually reviewed or the ebay/pp "brain" picked up on something. Manual reviews easily spot variations on names and such.

Ok so let's say my name is melinda fellianis.
So I used mel feltipanis..
No good ?

NoneOther 03-14-2012 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mzgr3k0 (Post 321460)
Ok so let's say my name is melinda fellianis.
So I used mel feltipanis..
No good ?

That would depend on other factors wouldn't it?

Mzgr3k0 03-14-2012 07:10 PM

Yeh.. But it's ok to do that isn't it?
Even If it is 5 houses?
Nooooooooo

NoneOther 03-14-2012 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mzgr3k0 (Post 321469)
Yeh.. But it's ok to do that isn't it?
Even If it is 5 houses?
Nooooooooo

I think the position you now find yourself in answers that question.

Mzgr3k0 03-14-2012 07:15 PM

Lmao!!!!!
Thank you all for the input!
Once again I have managed to get linked... I thought I had it all figured to.

NoneOther 03-14-2012 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mzgr3k0 (Post 321475)
Lmao!!!!!
Thank you all for the input!
Once again I have managed to get linked... I thought I had it all figured to.

Not quite got the hang of this yet have you?

I suggest you read the guide several times and fully understand its principles, fully.

Bear in mind it is only a guide and you need to read and research these forums to make sure your plan is up to date and will fly before you go making any more accounts. That includes forward planning for the inevitable proof of ID and other info/docs that will be asked for sooner rather than later.

GreenBean 03-14-2012 07:27 PM

You got $1500 into a new paypal account over 6 weeks and you wonder why paypal limits you?

They dont trust you is the reason. :tears:

UnderBites08 03-14-2012 07:34 PM

Should of withdrawn that money and taken a deep breath.

Mzgr3k0 03-14-2012 07:38 PM

It happened in the process of withdrawing the money.

I am still a noob yes but I do remember reading somewhere it was ok even if the address used is in the same street. Maybe I was mistaken.

Sneakee 03-15-2012 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biggunn (Post 321456)
A name variation isn't really stealth... Your problem is that you did not go 100% stealth. You probably got manually reviewed or the ebay/pp "brain" picked up on something. Manual reviews easily spot variations on names and such.

Wait, on the guide it says to use name variations instead of making up a totally ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name. Which one is right?

rsot 03-15-2012 10:34 AM

How much did you withdraw and how often?

Lheonard 03-15-2012 10:59 AM

Yes I thought name variations were okay too, are they?

rsot 03-15-2012 12:32 PM

They are but coupled with different reg. info.

biggunn 03-15-2012 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sneakee (Post 321639)
Wait, on the guide it says to use name variations instead of making up a totally ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name. Which one is right?

Name variations can be used and will work, but they are more risky than using a completely stealth name. If your account gets manually reviewed or reported by a competitor, a trust and safety agent will surely notice any name variations.

Name variations are pointless unless you are trying to reuse an old address you have access to and need the name (which isn't a good idea in itself).

Callidus 03-15-2012 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean™ (Post 321480)
You got $1500 into a new paypal account over 6 weeks and you wonder why paypal limits you?

They dont trust you is the reason. :tears:

I think we can all stop talking in this thread now..

$1500 in 6 weeks... nice joke..:dance:

seanws30 03-15-2012 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 321643)
How much did you withdraw and how often?

im guessing all at once

biggunn 03-15-2012 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hdavey10 (Post 321699)
I think we can all stop talking in this thread now..

$1500 in 6 weeks... nice joke..:dance:

I've done well over $1500 in 6 weeks without issue... Of course I didn't attempt to withdraw it all at once. $150-$250 at a time every few days. I always leave some money in the account too.

Thankful 03-15-2012 01:44 PM

Just remember your not linked on Name Variation Alone other factors along with the name will link you.

Mzgr3k0 03-15-2012 06:04 PM

Last time I got linked the suspended me indefinitely .

My boss opened up an eBay account only 2 months ago and has made easy over 7k worth of sales. He tried to transfer over 2k to the store account.
He got asked for EXACTLY the same info and he never had a pp or eb account before that so he definitely didn't get linked .

If anyone can help me please pm me.

Mzgr3k0 03-15-2012 06:14 PM

No I didn't withdraw all of it at once.
The first $400 I left for two weeks and only took $200 from that.
With the lots after that I still left about $200 in pp but withdrawing the rest at least 4 days after the sale was finalised.

jamblix 03-15-2012 08:21 PM

You can absolutely have name variations, I have 6 different variations of my name attached to my stealth accounts. This is for bank purposes I don't want to deposit money into my banks with a bunch of different names.

You have to make sure though that the addresses, DOBs, nearly everything else is different. 5 houses down isn't going to cut it I'm talking about a totally new address not related at all. I doubt it was the name variation that got you either, who knows what triggered it really...could have been the money.

Account is toast imo, make a new one unless you want to hire a photoshop guy to come up with all that info.


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