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cortex 03-30-2012 01:18 PM

More horrible news from eBay
 
Aside from eb sending out a pincode to lift selling limits they are now requesting to have a uk postal address and a landline telephone number in addition to having a bank that accepts DDebit if you want to make your eb account into a eb business account.

Here's what it says:

"We ask for your postal address and landline telephone number so we can contact you and confirm your information."

NoneOther 03-30-2012 01:29 PM

Thought that was always the case for UK accounts

cortex 03-30-2012 01:40 PM

Nope. first ive ever seen it. All my older accounts are business accounts...never seen this before..ever.

imjustme 03-30-2012 02:14 PM

Is this happening only on accounts you've never sold on? Or all accounts.

sax4 03-30-2012 02:17 PM

Don't quite understand....they want to make sure you have an address and a phone number, or they want to contact you at that address, ie send you a letter?

cortex 03-30-2012 02:38 PM

Ive never sold on this account before.
They wanted to send me a letter but there was also an option to call so i clicked on that and I got a unique code which I had to punch in when i rang the number.
So i called them and I explained to them im a buiness seller and i was converted to a business seller just now.

crazy stuff!

I can still list only 10 items though.
I thought maybe if i made it into a business account it will change but no.
Still wants to send me a pincode.

It is fully verified with bank, VCC and with address check. Nothing more to verify on ppal. All limits lifted.

NoneOther 03-30-2012 02:54 PM

I think the moral of the story is not to try and raise limits on a new account that has had no buying activity.

THis seems to be the overriding theme on most reports of this so far

cortex 03-30-2012 03:35 PM

no buying activity? Or no selling activity?

NoneOther 03-30-2012 03:41 PM

No buying activity but probably both in reality.

The reason I say that is because most reports of pin codes being sent are on brand new accounts with no buying activity therefore the address is 'unconfirmed' for want of a better expression.

Where as accounts that have had a few purchases made and f/b left for sellers seem to avoid the letter issue.

I always buy a few bits over a period of time before selling and never had the pin code problem

cortex 03-30-2012 03:52 PM

im going to try this on another account i just setup and ill report back.

This will be the first thing ill have bought off eb@y in about 7 years lol

NoneOther 03-30-2012 03:54 PM

I wouldn't advise buying and then trying to raise limits immediately, bit obvious

Thankful 03-30-2012 04:50 PM

I wonder if they ask for that info now on all new accounts? or it's just random for now hmm. Interesting

NoneOther 03-30-2012 04:54 PM

I think its just random in conjunction with the pin code thing

cortex 03-30-2012 04:57 PM

Might be random for now...but im sure this will become the norm very soon.

"new game..new rules"

Imakemoney 03-30-2012 04:57 PM

Buying activity has no relation to this.

NoneOther 03-30-2012 05:03 PM

No one knows for sure right now what triggers it but I can only speak from my own experience when there's been buying on the new account then no pin code, That on 3 accounts this month

Imakemoney 03-30-2012 05:10 PM

Ive done it on quite a number of accounts now...

tried it on brand new ones, ones with buying, ones with selling, ones with selling & buying....seems to be random

GreenBean 03-30-2012 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cortex (Post 326483)
Aside from eb sending out a pincode to lift selling limits they are now requesting to have a uk postal address and a landline telephone number in addition to having a bank that accepts DDebit if you want to make your eb account into a eb business account.

Here's what it says:

"We ask for your postal address and landline telephone number so we can contact you and confirm your information."

I've seen this for the past years. Used be a argument to not go business because the address/phone number was needed on the listings page.

It's not new per se.

It's new to your stealth usage.

It raises the point of re-generating sleepers. Due care must be taken if ebay wants to play ball this way :croc:

cortex 03-30-2012 05:14 PM

does seem a bit uncorrelated doesnt it IM£.

plus its a hassle to buy things on new accounts - have to upload funds lol

GreenBean 03-30-2012 05:21 PM

The broke student of life, our very own Cortex :thumb:

GTB 03-30-2012 05:38 PM

hehe....such is life eh!

JomJarr 03-30-2012 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cortex (Post 326570)
does seem a bit uncorrelated doesnt it IM£.

plus its a hassle to buy things on new accounts - have to upload funds lol

Buy something you can pick up in person!

With some personal contact you'll get nicer feedback too.

Many people are all too aware at least of the fee pitfalls of PP so would rather avoid it too, especially these days.

cortex 03-31-2012 06:52 AM

^^ I'll just buy something from my other stealth accounts...:peace:

cortex 04-06-2012 08:51 AM

Quick update: I think ebay are seriously considering going down the SSN equivalent route and yes we were right to suspect this is a trial run to lift limits.

On two established accounts i was invited to participate in a survey...the 2nd questions is:
"How willing are you to provide the following to increase your selling limit?"
1. Passport 2. Bank Information 3. National Insurance Number 4. Drivers Licence

Option #3 worries me!

meVebay 04-06-2012 08:58 AM

Wouldn't let it worry you. Even the banks don't use as a method of verification.

I called HMRC the other day to change my name on my national insurance number, they said although it's fine changing it, it doesn't make any difference as it's the number that's key, we accept all wages with the number, the name matching doesn't matter.

GTB 04-06-2012 09:09 AM

some members been on here for years and always found a way:thumb:

they_screwed_me_too 04-06-2012 09:16 AM

land line phone numbers ?

ive NEVER used a landline as far as im aware, always buy a sim card for a mobile and used that, never caused me any problems

or am i missing something ?

wait a minute if its not causing any problems im not missing anything surely

GTB 04-06-2012 09:20 AM

no it was said to have a business account you need a working landline etc

they_screwed_me_too 04-06-2012 09:23 AM

i have many business accounts for years with no LL

:behindsofa:

GTB 04-06-2012 09:32 AM

be reight lad...be reight

Thankful 04-06-2012 09:41 AM

E/B have never scared me with their tactics and never will.

Theres a way around every obstacle they through at you- just have to think outside the box and be willing to try new things.

cortex 04-06-2012 09:48 AM

I know I know - im not actually quivering lol

I'm just updating the community so we can think ahead :-D :ranger:

I can already think of at least two ways around this now. :thumb:

Imakemoney 04-06-2012 09:53 AM

bah ebay - they can do what they like ill still win :smash:

GrannyT 04-06-2012 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoneOther (Post 326536)
No buying activity but probably both in reality.

The reason I say that is because most reports of pin codes being sent are on brand new accounts with no buying activity therefore the address is 'unconfirmed' for want of a better expression.

Where as accounts that have had a few purchases made and f/b left for sellers seem to avoid the letter issue.

I always buy a few bits over a period of time before selling and never had the pin code problem

How 'sound' is that hypothersis NoneOther? Is it a definite?

:ranger:

Ebayorbust 04-06-2012 10:27 AM

About as sound as pure speculation can be. ;)

To be fair it does seem a fairly plausible theory. It just needs some proving.

NoneOther 04-06-2012 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrannyT (Post 329072)
How 'sound' is that hypothersis NoneOther? Is it a definite?

:ranger:

Ive opened 4 accounts in the last month. All with buying activity before selling and not one has had any problems raising limit or letters being sent to verify.

I can only judge on my own experiences and from what I believe to be the case with various reports from other posters, which in the main seem to indicate having no buying activity before selling. Although others have tested it with buying before hand and got it.

I always buy 'proper' items, ranging in price from £5 to £30. I always try to buy from sellers who use tracked mail and of course it goes without saying that all addresses are genuine and that I have access to them. However the person behind the address is ⊗⊗⊗⊗ and cannot be identified via public record but so far no request for ID, invoices or PIN verification either.

I honestly don't know what is triggering it other than it is a random test but what I am pretty sure of is that this will become standard procedure in the very near future.

Whether its what I'm doing or I've just been lucky so far as I said I don't know.

P.S. I've recently listed on the latest account opened about 2 weeks. I have bought about half a dozen item all around £10/12. Standard procedure to start selling, phone verification etc.

After listing 1st item, limit shows 10/£650. Listed 6 more then clicked to raise limits, sent to p/p to verify. back to e/b limit mow 100/£3500.

This is a private account not business btw

Imakemoney 04-06-2012 11:04 AM

^ Good work

Although i have different experiences, i have bought 'proper items' on some accounts & still ran into trouble lifting the limits.

Doesn't seem to be a conclusive answer currently.... :ranger:

GrannyT 04-06-2012 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoneOther (Post 329083)
Ive opened 4 accounts in the last month. All with buying activity before selling and not one has had any problems raising limit or letters being sent to verify.

I can only judge on my own experiences and from what I believe to be the case with various reports from other posters, which in the main seem to indicate having no buying activity before selling. Although others have tested it with buying before hand and got it.

I always buy 'proper' items, ranging in price from £5 to £30. I always try to buy from sellers who use tracked mail and of course it goes without saying that all addresses are genuine and that I have access to them. However the person behind the address is ⊗⊗⊗⊗ and cannot be identified via public record but so far no request for ID, invoices or PIN verification either.

I honestly don't know what is triggering it other than it is a random test but what I am pretty sure of is that this will become standard procedure in the very near future.

Whether its what I'm doing or I've just been lucky so far as I said I don't know.

P.S. I've recently listed on the latest account opened about 2 weeks. I have bought about half a dozen item all around £10/12. Standard procedure to start selling, phone verification etc.

After listing 1st item, limit shows 10/£650. Listed 6 more then clicked to raise limits, sent to p/p to verify. back to e/b limit mow 100/£3500.

This is a private account not business btw

Nicely done NoneOther - good professional approach - I like it a lot:thumb:

GreenBean 04-06-2012 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cortex (Post 329040)
Quick update: I think ebay are seriously considering going down the SSN equivalent route and yes we were right to suspect this is a trial run to lift limits.

On two established accounts i was invited to participate in a survey...the 2nd questions is:
"How willing are you to provide the following to increase your selling limit?"
1. Passport 2. Bank Information []3. National Insurance Number[/b] 4. Drivers Licence

Option #3 worries me!

This raises its ugly head from time to time.

From enquiries elsewhere, it's not favourably received. Alternatives to be given exist. ;)

cortex 04-16-2012 10:51 AM

Ive just noticed something in one of my paypals.

I had it bank verified, VCC added, all business info submitted and even had the details match the electoral register [real details/address/dob]...i have access to this address btw.
And at first my limits were all removed for sending/withdrawing/receiving.

Now i just looked and the View Limits button has arrived and i have the £1900 receiving limit. Ive already had the details verified.

Is this normal?


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