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dibley69 04-09-2012 05:55 AM

If you goto HSBC you can get a green account, premier, flexisaver and BNS saver all with different account numbers all compatible with different PP accounts, i'm sure other banks offer similar facilities
good luck

rsot 04-09-2012 08:20 AM

Wonder whats the equivalent of all this for hsbc canada...or us

cortex 04-13-2012 06:56 PM

25 accounts ...LOL!!!

I hope your customer service skills are up to scratch AND you have 23 hours a day spare.

How would you even have enough hours in the day to reply to emails/leave feedback/deal with returns/list new items/print packaging labels/package items/post items?? - Good Luck with that!....oh and listen to the advice from the established forum members.

Elijah 04-14-2012 12:52 PM

If that is what it takes to turn this into a full-time job and make a good living, I will do it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dibley69 (Post 329728)
If you goto HSBC you can get a green account, premier, flexisaver and BNS saver all with different account numbers all compatible with different PP accounts, i'm sure other banks offer similar facilities
good luck

I failed their credit check for some reason. I was told that it is perhaps because I have never applied for a credit card before, so they do not have anything to judge me by.

GTB 04-14-2012 01:40 PM

if you never had credit,that will be an issue for the current accounts

although there are basic accounts for people with bad or no credit history

work just as well:)

NoneOther 04-14-2012 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elijah (Post 331281)
I failed their credit check for some reason. I was told that it is perhaps because I have never applied for a credit card before, so they do not have anything to judge me by.

That's exactly why you failed the check, you have no history of proving your ability to service a debt. You are an unknown 'risk".

On top of that if you have been making lots of applications for bank accounts they see that as suspicious activity which increases the risk factor.

In this world having no credit history is judged in pretty much the same way as having a bad credit history.

cortex 04-14-2012 02:58 PM

Learn to walk before you learn to run

Elijah 04-15-2012 04:37 AM

I never had a problem with Nationwide, Natwest or Halifax current accounts though. And my last application was a long time ago. Maybe HSBC do something differently?

GreenBean 04-15-2012 04:47 AM

The banks you are already using are just as good for business and stealth. :juggle:


Instead of going out and making bank accounts have you written out a business plan?

you need to adjust your plans now.

Banks are not 1st on the list.

I would strongly recommend you do a lot more reading.

Might be a surprise but the answers to your plans are on the forum.....

See what you can find. :spy:

I'll give you a clue. Here We Go Again....

feel free to pm me ;)

Elijah 04-15-2012 08:10 AM

All right then, so it seems 2 eBays to 1 Paypal is going to be the best way to get around to doing this. That would be much more manageable for the bank accounts, but then I am still limited by the receiving/withdrawal limit in Paypal.

I hit the £1900 limit on my stealth account from August in just over 2 days, a week ago, and it was limited after that (I was able to withdraw all the cash though). So I have simply stopped selling for now. I would really like to get back up and running again.

NoneOther 04-15-2012 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elijah (Post 331437)

I hit the £1900 limit on my stealth account from August in just over 2 days, a week ago, and it was limited after that .

Surprise, surprise :doh:

Elijah 04-15-2012 04:04 PM

I would lift the limits myself but do not know where to start. Could somebody give me some guidance?

GTB 04-15-2012 04:15 PM

here you are mate...guidance:thumb:

NoneOther 04-15-2012 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elijah (Post 331519)
I would lift the limits myself but do not know where to start. Could somebody give me some guidance?

Nobody else but you can lift the limits. :doh:

Click on 'Raise Limits' in p/p and then give them what they ask for.

Elijah 04-15-2012 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoneOther (Post 331527)
Nobody else but you can lift the limits. :doh:

Click on 'Raise Limits' in p/p and then give them what they ask for.

I thought that was obvious. But I do not know where to start with the documents. I would not be able to use my one passport for all of my accounts for example, would I? Would the photograph not be seen as identical each time that I submit it?

cortex 04-15-2012 09:10 PM

somebody put him out of his misery.

GreenBean 04-16-2012 06:37 AM

A message has been given to the OP......their choice as to what action they do or dont do.

cortex 04-16-2012 07:43 AM

Good stuff GB

Omgoozle 04-16-2012 11:23 PM

Disclaimer: I have nothing to do with the UK. I am a USA seller.

I love your ambition. I love your goals. I love the fact that you want to explode onto the scene and take over your market. Realistically, that's what we all want to do.

I currently have over 100 bank accounts open in the USA. I walk into a bank and sit down with a personal banker and tell them I'd like to open 25 savings accounts. I tell them I want no monthly fee. If they ask any questions, I tell them I am a web-page designer and I use each account for a different client and give them the routing/account number so they can deposit my paycheck on a monthly or bi-montly basis, and at the same time I can keep my accounting in order for all my different clients for accounting and tax purposes at the end of the year.

Understand, in the US most personal bankers are paid on commission of some kind. The more accounts they open successfully, the more money they make. Upon hearing this explanation, most bankers will be THRILLED to help you, because it means they make 25x the commission they would make otherwise and they have heard a reason that's "good enough" for them to ignore any safeguards they might have had against such actions.

I hope this helps your issue.
Goozle

levi6482 04-17-2012 06:16 AM

Do I need a bank account for every stealth account or can I just use a vcc??

GreenBean 04-17-2012 06:52 AM

@levi,

Both. Bank account lets you get your funds. CC confirms address with paypal

You need to read much more B4 you consider making an ebay/paypal account.

When you are ready make your own thread :peace:

GreenBean 04-17-2012 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omgoozle (Post 331964)
Disclaimer: I have nothing to do with the UK. I am a USA seller.

I hope this helps your issue.
Goozle


Sadly this would not be feasible with current UK banks and to a degree, UK paypal.:mod:

levi6482 04-17-2012 07:23 AM

Ok i have read ebay stealth guide...but does not say that eb & pp addresses need to be the same?? This true??

NoneOther 04-17-2012 08:17 AM

If they're not then the accounts won't last very long.

rsot 04-17-2012 08:41 AM

@levi, if your addresses dont match up - could be cause for concern by eb - think about it.

levi6482 04-17-2012 08:47 AM

Yes i'm just clarifying my houghts thanks all

rsot 04-17-2012 10:11 AM

Clarification is good.

Elijah 04-17-2012 10:22 AM

I have had eBay accounts with differing info on them last for months, with payment going to the same PayPal. Have I just been very lucky?

easytiger12381 04-17-2012 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elijah (Post 332107)
I have had eBay accounts with differing info on them last for months, with payment going to the same PayPal. Have I just been very lucky?

It will only be a problem if one of the accounts get suspended- they both will then.

Elijah 04-17-2012 10:29 AM

I had some go down for various reasons (vero for example), but the other account never goes down.

NoneOther 04-17-2012 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elijah (Post 332107)
I have had eBay accounts with differing info on them last for months, with payment going to the same PayPal. Have I just been very lucky?

In a word, yes.

easytiger12381 04-17-2012 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elijah (Post 332112)
I had some go down for various reasons (vero for example), but the other account never goes down.

There is no doubt in my mind that the accounts will be linked if you have the same pp account. The proof will come if one is indefinitely suspended- the other will be too.

Elijah 04-17-2012 12:08 PM

Like I said, it has never happened to me though.

By the way, I opened an eBay/PayPal account combo about a week ago that has never had any payment holds applied, even after 80 sales. Then today two customers opened up cases and eBay state that payment is being held, but my PayPal still has all money available! What the hell could be going on? I am just scratching my head, and smiling at the same time...

NoneOther 04-17-2012 12:19 PM

Payments related to the open cases are being held not all payments, that whats going on.

Elijah 04-17-2012 12:20 PM

No, I said "my PayPal still has all money available". I thought it was obvious that what you describe is the way that things should work. But in my case, nothing is being held. The payments are still free just like any other.

NoneOther 04-17-2012 12:50 PM

If you say so.

Elijah 04-17-2012 12:52 PM

Wow. You constantly appear to underestimate me for some reason, throughout the thread. I have had payment holds applied to me on previous accounts, so I obviously know what to look out for. I am not a new user to eBay/PayPal like you seem to think.

What reason would there be for me to make it up? Do you want proof then?

NoneOther 04-17-2012 01:03 PM

I dont underestimate you at all.

Elijah 04-17-2012 01:10 PM

You have been doubting my knowledge/capabilities in your posts.

Again, do you require proof of some sort?

NoneOther 04-17-2012 01:16 PM

I have never doubted any of your knowledge or capabilities, I have merely commented on the apparent problems you seem to have had with your accounts.

And no, I don't require any proof. I'm sure its as you say.


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