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New stealth 1month+ MC081
 

Hi all,

Absolutely gutted at the moment :(

Opened new stealth accounts over month ago and yesterday listed items on both

• Opened with new stealth address (Virtual provider)
• Over 10 feedback
• New bank account with VCC so eBay dont know stealth details
• New user accounts for each stealth
• Used 3 mobile Dongle and logged IP every-time on excel spreadsheet
• Waited for month then listed 1 item on each which were less than £7 and non-vero

I have no idea why but today all auctions i bought on were removed and got MC081 they want proofs for name, address items etc

Please could someone tell me what I may have missed as I am at a loss , thought id covered all the bases then this happens :(

Could it be maybe when i setup seller accounts I used new entropay VCC when it asks for card to use for fees?

ANy advice would be appreacited thought id covered all the bases :(

Sometimes that can be too quick for an account depending how the account was setup...

I remember my first ever stealth got this and to date its my strongest account yet even after giving ID etc.

Entropay is fine I use all my accounts with that. Is it a stealth account they want documents for?

Yes its stealth accounts 2 of them

I wonder if it is the dongle but then others dont have this problem :(

You think its random and worth sending docs in?

Thankyou for your help

It could be random, I just sent in docs via ebay live chat and they lifted the ban

This is unlikely to be random. For them both to be taken down at the same time I would guess you have been linked in some way.

Possibly IP but I would say more likely to be cookie related.

Perhaps logging in to the the wrong account for the user profile you were on.

No matter how careful you think you are being it sometimes the human error is that brings you down.

Thanks for the reply

I'm telling you in was uber carefully and recorded ip,s every time I logged in

Could it be mailbox providers address a it was same postcode on both with variation of course

I hope not be cause its damn hard to find them round here north midlands

I'll try sending docs and see if that works

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The only thing that may have caused you problems is if your virtual address provider has

given you an address that has been previously used and banned for selling.

It's possible but a very outside chance I reckon.

I just wondered why you used an address/postcode variation when using a mailbox?

Most box providers allow you to specify a name for the box as well as providing a box number thus giving you two usable addresses so using these with the correct postal address should work fine.

I used same mailbox but just changed the first line of address that contained the mailbox number

Everything else was different for the 2 stealth user personal details, I honestly tried to do it all by the letter of the law even waiting 1 month+

Other thing would be if they traced MAC which ive read they don't do or they matched name of windows computer which i didn't change till recently cause i didn't know if they monitored it.

not mac address!!!

maybe you was too obvious:)

Too obvious? hehe thats hard to quantify but I tired to be natural surfing discussion forums etc everything learned from forums after hours and hours of reading so im stumped

Ill try again soon maybe try new laptop this time

yup too obvious

you know what i mean by that right?

without been too obvious what am talking about

anyways,forget that,this can happen anytime to any stealth account,dont feel like you have been singled out

i'd wager its the virtual address provider

if your using it then likely other "naughty" stealthers have too

theres your problem IMHO

id second that idea

aye too obvious

Definitely not MAC as GTB has already said.

Were these business or private accounts and were they made on the same day?

I think although those theories could be right the virtual provider is only local to me so no not all of you could use them

The accounts were deliberately setup 3-4 days apart and 1 was personal and 1 was premier (not chosen by me) - pretty sure that was the best way to do it?

try again,diff method

Sorry, I'm getting confused now

Are you now talking about p/p accounts being limited or e/b accounts?

As far as I was aware all p/p accounts are now Premier, personal accounts have not been available for some time now/

Can you clarify whether your e/b accounts were business or personal. Does your last post mean you had one of each?

BTW I bet your not the only stealther in you local area so there may be a possibility that the address has been used on e/b before.

So sorry , yeah they were both personal eBay accounts setup on different days - weirdly my PayPal seem to be fine? Are these still ok to use ?

Maybe it was the provider ebing used already by someone , is it still worth sending docs in ?

these things do happen mate and it is upto you if you want to pursue the matter of reinstating

tell me exactly what they have asked for?

you mite be able to sort this out or it may be best to walk away but there are many things to consider and you have only given half a story

do you have quite abit of money stuck in the paypal?

You've got nothing to lose by sending in 'appropriate' docs because if you don't the accounts are dead anyway.

As for the p/p accounts these may well be taken down in due course. They can still be used for purposes other than e/b but that would be up to you how you could possibly use them. They can never be linked to another e/b account.

TBH I still think it is very remote that it was the address in itself that got the accounts taken down.

You need to fully review how you set these accounts up, how you formatted the addresses, everything before you make any more new accounts.

I use nothing but virtual addresses, both local and national companies and have never had an issue.

Using box numbers on personal accounts is a big no imo, these are really best suited for business accounts.

Everything about the account information should appear genuine to the eyes of e/b and p/p. Anything that would not appear 'normal' will undoubtedly raise flags.

Good luck with future endeavours.

Thankyou both for the advice, I thought I was doing everything right maybe i missed something :(

I used "MB 33" as first line of address maybe it was that potentially that cuased problems.

Ill try docs and if not review what I did still gutted I tried to cover everything this time.

what are they asking for?

photo ID
utility bill for proof of address
proof of ownership of goods

As has already been said. Give them the documents they want and see what happens.

There has been situations where accounts get the all clear and become very strong

accounts. Back from the Dead and very strong. Id say just make sure the Documents

are water tight before you send them.

That is correct GTB exactly what they are after , the item was less than £2 non veto to be safe I thought

I'll try docs and see what happens , paypal still up for both

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That's created a link. That flagged you

The MC081 is a type of confirm ID.

What's your IP range between these accounts :spy:

About to send docs over , IP range 94.196 or 94.197 very similar but I thought it was fine using same dongle or I would have used 2 :(

Will update with how it goes but spoke to a advisor who was very strict on info he could give out.

IP range alone would not have been enough but there were probably to many other similarities with the accounts.

IP address helps avoid the bots but under a manual review other similarities are assessed by a human who will make an assessment based on the probability of the accounts being owned by the same person.

Good luck with the docs :thumb:

Thanks for all the analysis and support , I'll update after docs sent my paypals still active so that's good

We live and learn so hopefully your tips will help refine my skills :-)



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It's in the subscriber forum so no worries.

hehe yeah noticed and removed comment just now sorry :)

Thanks again

I have opened a new ebay account today but just usung a bank account. It is in my friends details as he has let me use it. where can i find my selling limit in ebay?? will this account last?? any help please.

Will this account last?

That depends on how well you run it.

Using your friends name was probably a big mistake tbh, much better options should have been considered.

Adding a card (vcc or prepaid) will 'strengthen' the p/p account.

I havent just used his name.....i have set up an account using all of his legitimate details. Every other legitimate eb i have had i have never used a vcc......why would this make it stronger & do i just input it in the debit credit card option on pp??

Dear oh!, dear oh!

That is not a good move at all using all of your friends legit info.

What happens if your account gets permanently limited? He wont be your friend for too long after that.

How many other legit accounts have you had and what is their status now, are they still active?

Yes they are all still active but have moved away or something. he has no need for ebay so he isnt really bothered & the ebay stealth book advises this...right?? correct me if i'm wrong i'm just a rookie. I had my legitimate account suspended but i know the resons for that & havent made the same mistake.

also this seems like the better option as hoew can a made up address compare to an acount to a leg one?? i'm confused now

Heard it all before, no need for e/b. He'll change his tune if it ever comes to the account being limited.

I suggest you read the guide again to try to fully understand the principles behind stealth because they way you are doing it is not really stealth and could end up going horribly wrong. It usually does with the scenario you are using.

You got a lot of research ahead