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james169 05-02-2012 03:13 AM

Orange Pre Paid Master Card for UK users
 
Whilst looking at pre paid cards for verifying PP, I found that Orange are offering their pre paid MasterCard for free at the moment, usually £5 just to buy the card from them.

I've just signed up for three, using a different email address for each order

Useful for PP and for those unable to use EP

Link below:

Orange money | Orange.co.uk

Enjoy!! :thumb:

NoneOther 05-02-2012 03:51 AM

Aren't these required to be registered to a specific address?

Don't think they would pass AVS

james169 05-02-2012 04:00 AM

You do have to put in the address they are to be delivered to, so they would not pass the AVS unless you have access to the address the stealth is registered to,

but would this not be the same as using a EP generated card as that doesn't have an address for AVS purposes?

Just had a further look at their small print and for each 'main' card you can have up to 4 additional cards for 'friends and family' so they have the potential for 5 VCC's for the one you sign up for

moneyhustler88 05-02-2012 04:03 AM

wicked :) man!! this is a great catch thanks for posting this!!

NoneOther 05-02-2012 04:06 AM

No, not the same as an e/pay vcc which do not require any on address and will work with any that you use.

As you say if these can be delivered to an accessible stealth address then they are only usable for that particular address, they would not pass AVS for any other.

Any additional cards added to the main card have the same registered address so could only be used for that address I'm afraid

oompaloompa 05-02-2012 04:21 AM

It might pass avs for address that had matching postcode, so say your business name registered on ebay with rest of address the same, missing out door number.

NoneOther 05-02-2012 04:25 AM

Yes, That's a possibility but they do usually verify by house number and postcode but worth a try though. You never know.

james169 05-02-2012 04:46 AM

Oh well, just goes to show that I still have much to learn about AVS and what not, but the only way to learn is by posting and questions,

Hopefully it will be useful for someone....................

moneyhustler88 05-02-2012 04:48 AM

oompalumpa you killed it your always thinking ahead man. why not just put in a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ address from day 1? or use a po box :)

NoneOther 05-02-2012 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by james169 (Post 337066)
Oh well, just goes to show that I still have much to learn about AVS and what not, but the only way to learn is by posting and questions,

Hopefully it will be useful for someone....................

It is useful in the right context, no doubt of that.

You're working hard to find solutions, that's good but run your ideas by someone before diving in. Fortunately on this occasion it has not cost you any money as they were free :dance:

rsot 05-02-2012 05:04 AM

Time to hook rest of us North Am folx up =) pm

moneyhustler88 05-02-2012 05:36 AM

*orders 10 orange cards for his stealth and future*:clap:;)

james169 05-02-2012 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoneOther (Post 337069)
It is useful in the right context, no doubt of that.

You're working hard to find solutions, that's good but run your ideas by someone before diving in. Fortunately on this occasion it has not cost you any money as they were free :dance:

I'm to tight to have dived straight in without checking with some one on here if it had cost anything!!!

Stigger 05-02-2012 07:55 AM

Just becuase the card is delivered to an address it does not mean it will not pass avs, Most are jumping to conclusions.

there is no saying that the card will be assosiated to the delivery address, yes of coarse the most proabable option but......theres always a but

Someone needs to suck it and see.

james169 05-02-2012 08:45 AM

I will be trying it to see what happens and will report back, might be worth people getting some as I don't think they will be free for long and if it does work people will have missed out

Nothing ventured, nothing gained......

moneyhustler88 05-04-2012 07:20 PM

I can report back with my findings.
Ordered numerous cards to numberous different addresses of mine, none have arrived.
Instead i got a email from Orange asking me to provide 2 forms of ID and then a £10 'application deposit' before they dispatch the prepaid card.
isn't free at all!

NoneOther 05-05-2012 10:15 AM

That sort of answers the AVS question then if they require 2 forms of ID which I assume would be photo and address.

Possibilities still, maybe.

From FAQ's

Who can get a card?
Anyone can get a card, as long as we can verify your ID.

Do I require ID information to get a card?
Further ID information is only required if you receive a card with a reduced spending limit and wish to upgrade. If you'd like to upgrade, we'll need you to send us certain documents to confirm your identity. Please see upgrading your card for more information. There's a £5 admin fee for this identity check that’s taken from your card.

What’s a card with reduced spending limits?
We’re legally required to confirm your identity when we receive your application. As long as we can do this, you’ll receive a card that allows you to shop online and in the high street, as well as withdraw money from ATMs, up to a maximum spend limit of £5,000.
If we’re not able to fully confirm your identity, you’ll receive a card that still lets you shop everywhere, but has a total spending limit of £1,600 a year (up to £600 of this can be withdrawn from ATMs). The single transaction limit is £600 and loading via debit or credit card is not possible. If you're happy with this, you don't need to do a thing.
If you'd like to upgrade your card, we'll need you to send us certain documents to confirm your identity. Please see upgrading your card for more information. There's a £5 admin fee for this identity check that’s taken from your card.
Please note, if you’re given a card with a reduced spending limit and don’t want to go ahead, you can still change your mind. Contact us anytime before activating your card, or within 14 days of activating it, and we’ll cancel your card and refund your £5 application fee and any remaining balance on the card.

eternity4u 05-05-2012 01:07 PM

Has anyone tried it yet?

Thankful 05-05-2012 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schrib (Post 337945)
I can report back with my findings.
Ordered numerous cards to numberous different addresses of mine, none have arrived.
Instead i got a email from Orange asking me to provide 2 forms of ID and then a £10 'application deposit' before they dispatch the prepaid card.
isn't free at all!

So much for being free :boink:

We should always read up on the terms and any small hidden words on the site. :rolleyes:

Stigger 05-07-2012 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoneOther (Post 338086)
That sort of answers the AVS question then if they require 2 forms of ID which I assume would be photo and address.

Possibilities still, maybe.

From FAQ's

Who can get a card?
Anyone can get a card, as long as we can verify your ID.

Do I require ID information to get a card?
Further ID information is only required if you receive a card with a reduced spending limit and wish to upgrade. If you'd like to upgrade, we'll need you to send us certain documents to confirm your identity. Please see upgrading your card for more information. There's a £5 admin fee for this identity check that’s taken from your card.

What’s a card with reduced spending limits?
We’re legally required to confirm your identity when we receive your application. As long as we can do this, you’ll receive a card that allows you to shop online and in the high street, as well as withdraw money from ATMs, up to a maximum spend limit of £5,000.
If we’re not able to fully confirm your identity, you’ll receive a card that still lets you shop everywhere, but has a total spending limit of £1,600 a year (up to £600 of this can be withdrawn from ATMs). The single transaction limit is £600 and loading via debit or credit card is not possible. If you're happy with this, you don't need to do a thing.
If you'd like to upgrade your card, we'll need you to send us certain documents to confirm your identity. Please see upgrading your card for more information. There's a £5 admin fee for this identity check that’s taken from your card.
Please note, if you’re given a card with a reduced spending limit and don’t want to go ahead, you can still change your mind. Contact us anytime before activating your card, or within 14 days of activating it, and we’ll cancel your card and refund your £5 application fee and any remaining balance on the card.


Ah, now that sounds like it, thanks.

wonder who the issuer is.

time to go through the t and c's

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Right i'm back

have a read of this lot, see what you think.

Terms & Conditions | Orange Cash card | Orange UK

i take it as the restricted card are good to go

16 per house hold, 4 per user if you can be bothered.

eternity4u 05-07-2012 10:22 PM

It sounds good once you read through it, but changing the name and address would be an issue.:juggle:

Apart from that, looks good to go.

doughboykilla 05-07-2012 10:38 PM

wonder if that orange card has anything to do with ing derict. if so they suck when it comes to missmatched names

rsot 05-08-2012 01:47 PM

Hopefully not.

moneyhustler88 05-08-2012 04:28 PM

probably is

NoneOther 05-08-2012 04:39 PM

Nothing to do with ING.

They are issued by Barclays

The Orange Cash prepaid MasterCard® card is issued by Barclays Bank PLC pursuant to license by MasterCard International Incorporated. MasterCard is a registered trademark of MasterCard International Incorporated. This card is an electronic money product. The electronic money associated with this card is provided by PrePay Technologies Ltd, a company regulated by the Financial Services Authority for the issuance of electronic money. PrePay Technologies Ltd is a registered service provider of Barclays Bank PLC.

Stigger 05-09-2012 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoneOther (Post 339019)
Nothing to do with ING.

They are issued by Barclays

The Orange Cash prepaid MasterCard® card is issued by Barclays Bank PLC pursuant to license by MasterCard International Incorporated. MasterCard is a registered trademark of MasterCard International Incorporated. This card is an electronic money product. The electronic money associated with this card is provided by PrePay Technologies Ltd, a company regulated by the Financial Services Authority for the issuance of electronic money. PrePay Technologies Ltd is a registered service provider of Barclays Bank PLC.

Is there only you that actually reads stuff around here.


it all depends what they want when you first log in, my guess is , you activate the restricted card and if you want to raise the limits, upload the id.

all guess work because i have no real interest in this, but thats how i have seen these things work in the past.

GreenBean 05-09-2012 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schrib (Post 337067)
oompalumpa you killed it your always thinking ahead man. why not just put in a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ address from day 1? or use a po box :)

Preferable to have access to the address.

Sensible to have access to the address.

Good stealth to have access to the address.

PO Box works.

Topic been discussed with you B4.... keep up the reading:ranger:

NoneOther 05-09-2012 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TizWoz (Post 339137)
Is there only you that actually reads stuff around here.


it all depends what they want when you first log in, my guess is , you activate the restricted card and if you want to raise the limits, upload the id.

all guess work because i have no real interest in this, but thats how i have seen these things work in the past.

Would seem that way :thumb:

Agree with your assessment on how it would work.

If the applicant is not found on public records then a restricted card is issued and ID and address verification is required to upgrade. Standard procedure now for all prepaid card issuers.

So in conclusion, if you are using a stealth address to which you have access as the cards are posted out to you then these would work ok for AVS on that registered address.

Stigger 05-09-2012 01:48 PM

and BINGO was his name O

moneyhustler88 05-09-2012 04:45 PM

i didnt use a stealth though..and my address is my own i just wanted it as a spare card..

james169 05-10-2012 01:55 PM

My cards arrived today, got two, two in real names for actual real world purchases and two in stealth names, all with full usage and no restrictions, no asking for id to be submitted or asking for any money,

will report back later when I have loaded some money on the stealth ones to see if they work for verifying PP when attached ;)

NoneOther 05-10-2012 02:37 PM

How do you know there are no restrictions, have you activated the cards yet?

The restrictions will probably not kick in until activated and you have reached the initial loading limit. Thereafter you will get the ID request if you want to upgrade. Thats the normal procedure with prepaids.

There is also the issue of AVS to be aware of with the stealth cards if these were not sent to the matching stealth address.

moneyhustler88 05-10-2012 09:31 PM

thats weird because i ordered two in my name, to two different addresses which are genuine addresses, and i got asked for id what the hell..

james169 05-11-2012 05:03 AM

Ok so cards have been activated, loaded with the minimum amount of £20 per card,

There was no charge for the loads and I can get the money out with no fees if I spend it online or at a shop point of sale

No requests for I.D or anything else on any of the cards

The funds take up to 48 hours to appear on the cards and then I will try attaching one to a PP to see what happens, will report back once I have done so, which should clear up the question of AVS

NoneOther 05-11-2012 05:06 AM

Thanks for the update.

james169 05-11-2012 05:12 AM

Just noticed on the attached letters that the real detail cards have a maximum £5000 limit and can be topped up by credit / debits cards,

The stealth cards have a annual limit of £1600 and can NOT be loaded by debit or credit cards and to lift this to an annual limit of £5000 you would need to send in docs, this doesn't bother me in the least as I just want it for the £1 - £2 they debit the card for verification purposes

NoneOther 05-11-2012 05:14 AM

Exactly as I had explained before.

Not on public records then restricted card issued.

moneyhustler88 05-11-2012 10:37 AM

so why the hell did they ask me for ID :noidea:

NoneOther 05-11-2012 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schrib (Post 340009)
so why the hell did they ask me for ID :noidea:

As these were stealth names and addresses I would assume that even though you used genuine addresses the name you supplied does not appear at those addresses on the electoral register.

moneyhustler88 05-12-2012 11:40 AM

they werent stealth names or addresse..were genuine though!


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