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Method for having A LOT of ebay accounts?
 

I read on here that some of you have many, many ebay accounts, and I wanted to know the correct method to go about this...

Obviously you can't have as many bank accounts as you do ebay accounts, and therefore you cannot have as many verified PPs as you do ebay accounts.

So do you guys just have all these ebay accounts without paypals to go with them, and you just use them to create browsing/cookie history? I'm guessing that when you are ready to sell on these ebay accounts, you just create a paypal to coincide with the ebay account?

Or do you make an ebay AND paypal together, and just verify the paypal account when you are ready to sell on the ebay account?

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You must not understand yet how it works as I have 100s of sellers accounts and dont need a "working" bank account to verify each one.

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How is it that you safely sell on your ebay accounts without a verified paypal...

I mean I know you can, but I have read it is unwise to operate selling on ebay without linking a verified paypal.

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Sandy never said her PP's were unverified... she's a pro and knows what she's doing. :p

She just mentioned you don't need a "working" bank account to verify PP.

I strongly suggest grabbing the stealth guide. If you're not clear on this issue, you may not understand other fundamentals.

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Have a read though the guide. You are lucky that you are in the US which means you have means to verify PayPal without having bank accounts.

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Thank you AnOnymOu$!

OP Please take the time to read the forums as you are missing one of the most basic and easy steps in having a stealth account and not having to have a "working" bank to get verified.

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All you need is a credit card to verify your paypal and be good to sell. I've sold tens of thousands on paypal accounts safely without ever having a bank account. Multiply that by as many accounts as you like, and you'll see that limits don't really apply.

As for getting the money out of the paypal accounts, it just takes some creativity. Most members here won't give you their tactics for getting the money out, and I won't give you mine, but with experience you'll probably find the same methods that some of us use.

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Just to clarify for lingo purpose, credit card will CONFIRM the paypal - bank VERIFIES it.

Recommendation stands (especially for people new to stealth account) to sell with VERIFIED pp as per eB's stipulations.

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Listen & learn Grasshopper OP :-)

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I really don't even know the difference then. I've had accounts with confirmed CC only, and had them sell 15k in a year and be fine. I've had accounts where I've added both CC and BA and the account lasts the same timeframe.

I have an account from 2011 that's sold almost 40k worth of goods in the almost 3 years I"ve had it, never had a bank account, it's a power seller, sells medium risk products, and never an issue.

I guess my best answer is to honestly say for me, I'm not sure it's ever made a difference whether I had a BA attached or not.

One thing that I've alway's done, which has probably made things easier for me in regards to paypal risk, is I leave a larger amount of money in my paypal than most people. I try to alway's leave enough money in my account to cover all pending sales, and a little bit extra on top of it. I never have less than 500 in a paypal account, and I think it's possible that when you have some funds in the account, you are deemed less risky.

Hard to turn and burn when you don't withdrawal the money, and that's paypal's biggest worry I think.

My problems are almost alway's with ebay and not paypal.

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Ahhh you guys, thanks for the reality check.

I am indeed new to stealth. I have learned A LOT, but there is a lot more to learn! Okay, VBA's is what you're getting at.

Instead of buying one, I am looking to find the appropriate reloadable card (assuming I am correct in obtaining a bank account and routing number this way).

I have bought a Western Union moneywise card, backed by Metabank. I have read this is no good, as the trial deposits will not go through. I have given it a shot anyway, and entered in the routing # and bank account # associated with this Western Union account. I have my fingers crossed, but am not hopeful.

Any suggestions as to which card to go to next to try out??

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A lot of those don't work with stealth, suggest you go with banks. There are a lot of banks that work with stealth. Do a search on the forum, there are a lot of threads on this topic.

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Right, banks have worked very well for the handful of stealths I have now.

But I'm talking about opening LOTS of accounts. Say 50, 60, 100! Too many to keep up with in terms of opening up a working checking or savings account with a branch.

Isn't it quicker to use a reload-able card? You just need to know the right ones to use... and that's the question I'm left with.

I tried metabank, though I've heard they don't work. I already bought a Wester Union money wise card (which is metabank) before I found this out, so I gave it a try.

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What you do is sit done and say this is the nodeal plan.....

dont go making accounts simply for the sake of making accounts.

Make your first round of planing the establishment of say 3 stealth accounts.

Do not go above that.

Why? Because once you learn to make three and maintain them, you can expand.

Making new accounts is like gardening.

You make sure the soil is good. ( paypal makes you money).

You make sure the flowers are pretty ( ebay accounts with names & accessible addresses).

Do you recall learning to drive an auto? Same as making ebay accounts.

You go slowly and carefully.

It is a plan you need, Grasshopper.

:juggle:

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It is true, you are right, nurturing what I have now is key.

I am over my head thinking about that many accounts right now.

BUT I do still want to know about the reload-able cards and which will work to verify PP account. If I use a real bank account to verify my PP account and that account goes down, I am losing an actual bank account at a branch that I can make withdrawals into.

If I lose an account that was attached to a prepaid card, it's no big deal since that was just used to verify and never really planned on making regular withdrawals into it anyway.

Do I have this right?

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:doh: I just said that those pre-paids are a bad idea....99% of those cards will flag you with mismatch names....A few worked before but now they don't.

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Then how do people make a VBA?

How do you verify a paypal account without a *working* bank account?

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Now your confusing a VBA and Realoadable Prepaid Card.

A VBA is a Virtual Bank that you add to Paypal to completely verify the account. You buy 1 on the forum...You CANNOT withdraw to a VBA.

IF you need a BANK ACCOUNT please try to use a BANK ACCOUNT. Here I'll even make it easy for you....

Bank of America
Wells Fargo
Chase
U.S. BANK
many more!

Reloadable Prepaid Cards are not recommended, as of lately they are not worth using or even bothering trying, you will only be wasting your time registering them, adding them to the Paypal, wasting the micro-deposits or worse...wasting transferring any amount.

Is there any part of all of this that does not make sense?

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Hahaha MM78, please do not lose your patience.

I guess what i'm trying to ask is, where do the accounts for the VBA come from?

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My goodness look around the forum. We have sellers of VBAs and had you took the time to look around you would see we have several sellers of VBAs.

Please take the time to read down through ALL the sections as using a VBA is another one of the basic stealth items that is discussed all day long.

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This reminds me of the old saying....Nanya.....and then you say Nanya? and the response is Nanyabusiness.....

Don't worry about where they come from or who makes them....no one is going to tell you.

Just know that you have the ability to buy them and use them to verify your accounts.

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lol Yes there are VBAs for sale, that is true. Yes they are talked about on the forums, I understand.

I am not asking, "Where can I buy one?"

Thanks to the help you guys have given me on the forum, I am no longer asking, "What are VBAs good for?"

The question I am now asking is where these bank accounts come from and how they are obtained.

NOW if I had done just a bit more research, I would have discovered that the answer I WILL get for asking such questions is:


lol I will definitely be looking into purchasing a VBA from here, though. Thank you for the help.

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lol sorry man but it's the truth, no one is going to tell you (those who sell them) and really...there's no need to worry about what magical place they come from.

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haha no need to apologize. This community has provided me the opportunity to be in a place I would've never otherwise been in. These forums are great!

Method for having A LOT of ebay accounts?
 

Not all prepaid a are bad I mix it some real banks some prepaid , the thing with prepaid they normally will let the micro deposits and the first months withdrawals through and than they will reject them the second month if the pay pal has a different name than ur real name , so accounts with prepaid bank accounts use ur real name there are other tricks with them but it's something u will learn

So prepaid banks that I been running for almost a year and I never had a problem with Paypal except one last week and I resolved if in 5 min and it took them 4 hours to reinstate so whatever I do it works for me , stay away from all meta bank cards there's a lot with different names. Just google prepaid cards and you will see different sites that rate then and tell u the ins and outs with them

Becareful some charge crazy amounts a month and if u want to make money u need to spend it but with prepaid a I find the best ones have no monthly fees or very low but there are ones that charge $15 a month plus this fee that fee and they are banned by Paypal

Ill give u a few more tips , don't waste ur money at the store paying for a temporary card Waste of money u won't need the card right away anyway because by the time u start to sell and than by the time funds are released could be 3-6 weeks if u are working properly, but here's some I use

Visa vanilla( regions bank)
Works great no monthly fee $2 withdrawal
And u set up an account instant online and can verify ur account instantly or with micro deposits in 3 days , so a good thing about these prepaid u can open an account for free , and open it online in minutes with an online account routing and tracking numbers but again this is good with accounts in ur real name and name at least in the US really doesn't cause links however don't make every account with ur real name so u need to find other banks use the search in the forum banks that accept mismatched deposits , visa vanilla I have 6 so not sure if there are limits or not.

Ill give u one more centurion bank also no monthly fee and I think they did or will raise ATM withdrawl to 2.50 and the first one of each month is free but these amounts are nothing and it is an Amex Prepaid Card u can have 3

There's few other good ones just google them

I recently started using another one and so far it's accepting mismatched deposits and gave $10 to open the account

I noticed that 3 types of cards I used switched banks so they all offer some incentive if u had the old card like adding $10 and the best part when the accounts grow where they are making $2000 a week I usually switch to a real bank just more things u can do faster deposits Saturday deposits my favorite real bank BOA and u can open what u need online with no money initially u can add $25 on a basic checking after and with real banks u can transfer money using there app in seconds so it's great to consolidate groups of paypals so u can transfer funds to one account that doesn't have a Paypal and use one debit card for say BOA i have 10 accounts all in good standing with money in then never have accounts with 0 or neg balance

Something I end up doing is starting with prepaid and than when it's generating a lot of money add real bank , jiust so the prepaid acts as a buffet between my real account and Paypal if something happens they take money from the primary card and say Bank of America closes my accounts I still have a working account .

Just open accounts over time start with a visa vanilla prepaid in the beginning and as you get better and know what ur doing add a real bank

Don't overwhelm URself like sandy said start with 3 at the most because there's a lot of steps and if u overwhelm urself u will get confused and just waste accounts

But stealth works just follow the right peoples advice and u will succeed.

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Users are attaching VBAs to verfiy accounts.

VCCs confirm paypal & lift limits.

Both are needed, imo.

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With a lot of expertise you can make VBA... However they wont be shared with you because then they would kill their own business of selling them...

VCC is much easier IMO however more options available.

Purchase a VBA from approved seller and then confirm account with VCC (or some gift card)

Now once this is done think outside the box on how to get your "funds" out...

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OP, here is my experience with opening tons of stealth accounts:

* I was excited like you at the prospects of opening 100s of accounts
* I opened 30 accounts over 6 months, cutting corners here and there
* I had to spend A LOT OF TIME fixing all the corners cuts. Some accounts are gone (money wasted), so are half-dead, some are running strong.

I have learned a lot but before your go crazy, open a couple. Understand the problems you are going to get into. Once you feel confident, open some more.

What you don't want to do is open tons of accounts repeating the same mistake. It will cost you time and money.

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Corleone, do you ever use a VBA to confirm those accts that you never attach a bank acct to or was a credit the the only thing you ever need to get you going? Those accounts you sell 30 or 40k over 3 years, a credit card was the only thing that got you going?

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I have record sales on my accounts this year and have not even got to the holiday season yet so like above you need to go slow. I built them from baby stealths into powerhouse accounts by selling slow, building for the long haul and keeping the DSRS at the top etc. Has worked like a charm for me for many years now.

I dont attach a bank until I get the account running and get some feedback. Once that is done then I will add a bank account.

VBA and VCC to make the account strong and solid. Once going add a bank to withdraw.

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Hey thanks for the extra info. I'm curious if you can still go stealth without a vba. Since corleone didn't mention that, I'm thinking its possible. Also I know that corleone said u can withdraw without bank acct, he won't say how but you can bet my imagination motor is running into high gear now. Lol.

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You can go stealth without a vba but you would still need some sort of bank account to verify the account (for risk purposes)...you use your own account

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Sorry for the delay, I don't alway's check the threads after I post.

You can't withdrawal without a bank account, but I'm assuming a few of your stealth paypal's have bank accounts.

There are ways to get the money to those accounts without sending as gift, or even sending as a paypal direct payment. Get creative, think yourself "what is the least suspicious, and most frequent activity on ebay/paypal. If you become one of those common million times per day transactions, you will blend into the crowd much better than if you try to send a gift payment" There, that was about as obvious as I can get.

To answer your other question, I don't do VBA. I have 2 types of accounts. Long term accounts with bank accounts, and short term accounts with only credit card.

On my short term accounts, I sell higher risk products. If after 2 months time, the account has all positives, no mc999's and everything is going good, then it gets converted to a long term account, which sells a different, lower risk product. The accounts that don't make it, never get the bank account.

As for the long term accounts with no bank account, they are the exception, but there was reasons why I didn't want to add the BA's to those accounts, either mc999's or another situation which deemed the account unsafe for long-term use, but even despite all that, they've grown strong, with lots of feedback. I'll probably add them a bank around X-mas, and when I do the account will get suspended.:surrender:

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OK time to jump on the confusing bandwagon...

I make a new stealth ebay and paypal account. Immediately have to make an entropay virtual credit card to confirm paypal (which in turn allows me to assign the paypal to paying my seller fees which allows me to sell on the ebay account).


Then I can happily sell slowly and surely up to £1600. If I want to withdraw any money I need to add a bank account to paypal to verify the account. This allows me to withdraw as much as I want. But this is obviously not practical for hundreds of accounts, so this is where I need to get creative or look into VBA, of which I know nothing about.

If I want to sell more than £1600 (per year) then I need to provide proof of name and address such as a driving licence and utility bill. This will remove the final limit of receiving money. Also stuck here. Easy solution spread limits over multiple accounts I guess but when selling competitive items I want to keep it going to keep a high best match ranking.


BTW that's all UK, dunno if USA is different.

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You need to withdraw low amounts and slowly to be safe - don't go wild from the get-go

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Okay I have subscribed, have gotten hit with lots of new information, and now i'm freakin confused.

Now I'm quite sure I have read it is very important to verify your paypal account with a bank before starting to sell. Isn't this standard stealth practice? Verify paypal before selling on it?

I am just confused because Sandy you said And I am wondering if you meant you don't add a "REAL" bank acct until your account gets some feedback or you meant you don't even add a VBA or anything and leave it unverified until you get some feedback.