Any Ideas on what is trigerring the NEW MC999?

[zoneout]

Could be eBay is seeing GV recycled phone numbers from other suspended users. I had a bunch of emails this month from GV saying they were reclaiming my old numbers since I hadn't used them in a while.

[nyc]

Okay so I tried to get around mc999 by telling them a rep told me I was susp for non-pymnt but that didn't go we'll. :(

[glacier922]

Originally Posted by corleone

Just to update my earlier theory: I'm 90% sure the phone numbers are triggering this.

Every single prepaid phone I use to create accounts ends up fine. If anyone ever gets the restriction using a actual prepaid phone and not a forwarding service, then please let me know, or the board know and we'll go from there.

I got an MC999 using google voice, but I got the softball questions, i.e. not the public database questions. So is this a random thing?

On another note, a previous account that got toasted, did get the MC999 public database question. That one I used google voice AND I accidentally logged into that account with an IP from my legit acct. That could have been many features that I got hit with the public database questions. GV + using previous used IP = public database questions?

[okay]

Originally Posted by glacier922

^^^

OKAY, what do you mean? I went to that web page and only pics. I use talkatone too, and it still gave me the mc999.

What do you mean pics and what web page? White pages.

[corleone]

Originally Posted by nyc

Okay so I tried to get around mc999 by telling them a rep told me I was susp for non-pymnt but that didn't go we'll. :(

Is this a joke?

[RustyShackelford]

Originally Posted by glacier922

^^^

How many minutes does 10 bucks get?

200 min or texts

[joanna4051]

Originally Posted by RustyShackelford

***Side note if the phone numbers are triggering the mc999 you can now get the h2o wireless sim cards for 99 cents on ebay, load it with 10 dollars which is good for 90 DAYS, which equates to 3 dollars a month. The numbers are at&t so they should be stronger. Not sure if I should make a separate post about this, but I thought it can help some members here.

Does that mean you can use one device and just switch the sim cards or do you need a separate for each? Someone earlier mentioned Tracphone for $4.99 on Amazon but that is a seperate phone for each account which can become a hassle.

[zoneout]

Not a hassle. I tape the acct name to the phone and use Velcro to stick the phones to my belt.

[Sandy D]

I think they are hitting accounts with a variety of triggers just to toss it up.

They know we are onto them but they dont know we have enough talent and bright people here who can always figure their game out and beat them at it.

[ricardosway8]

Originally Posted by corleone

Just to update my earlier theory: I'm 90% sure the phone numbers are triggering this.

Every single prepaid phone I use to create accounts ends up fine. If anyone ever gets the restriction using a actual prepaid phone and not a forwarding service, then please let me know, or the board know and we'll go from there.

Interesting topic regarding the type phone used. We will see if this true

[vogeltron]

Originally Posted by Sandy D

I think they are hitting accounts with a variety of triggers just to toss it up.

They know we are onto them but they dont know we have enough talent and bright people here who can always figure their game out and beat them at it.

I agree that a prepaid phone number is probably better than a GV or a forwarding service on a new selling account. But Sandy D is right. There are lots of factors. Browsing history, feedback as a buyer. How long you wait to register as a seller etc. What type of item you list. I don't think it is as simple as saying it is 100% based on GV or a forwarding service.

[r00tk3y]

You all do know, that services exist, called "intellius" they can basically see who the phone is registered to, and when they do a search on the phone number and find out its registered to "Google" you have a problem. Not to mention Google Voice numbers are recycled.

[corleone]

Originally Posted by vogeltron

I agree that a prepaid phone number is probably better than a GV or a forwarding service on a new selling account. But Sandy D is right. There are lots of factors. Browsing history, feedback as a buyer. How long you wait to register as a seller etc. What type of item you list. I don't think it is as simple as saying it is 100% based on GV or a forwarding service.

These Automated Limit Reductions are different and don't have much to do with your browsing History, feedback or listing items.

These restrictions are triggered from the moment you create a seller account and confirm your phone number.

Before you even list an item, they are limiting the accounts. Usually within 24-72 hours.

It's possible that if you let the buying account age for a long period then you may bypass it, but from what I've been researching, I think it's a software they have added to the seller account creation to reduce risk of fraud.

There may be other triggers like ⊗⊗⊗⊗ addresses etc. . .but I wouldn't know about that because using a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ address is a very bad idea.

[corleone]

Originally Posted by r00tk3y

You all do know, that services exist, called "intellius" they can basically see who the phone is registered to, and when they do a search on the phone number and find out its registered to "Google" you have a problem. Not to mention Google Voice numbers are recycled.

And they've probably developed technology to make it much easier for ebay to know. I believe they know if it's a forwarded number now, the second you input your phone number into their system.

Ebay probably loses hundreds of million in fraud, and I wouldn't be surprised if they're really trying to step it up to stop scammers. Really, I've wondered why it's taken this long.

Eventually they'll want drivers license numbers, or even worse, the dreaded SSN requirements. I hope not.

[okay]

And it's the now the sellers getting scammed so if you wanna buy something creating a buyer account shouldn't be a problem wow

[glacier922]

@corleone

They probably wouldn't want that. They'll lose a lot of business for people not wanting to do it. Plus I remember Aspkin saying that the reason why PayPal can get away with doing so much is because they are not a bank. Where bank requires ssn right away.

[joanna4051]

I found an interesting article:eBay Removes Transparency as It Cracks Down on Sellers

he small seller extermination is turning into small seller genocide at the order of John Donahoe. Throughout the coming months tens of thousands more sellers will fall victim to Donahoe's genocide. There will be no notice, there will be no appeals.

Effected sellers will simply receive a notice from their former master telling them they may no longer list on eBay. Demonstrating how disconnected eBay executives have become from their own customers, the notice sellers receive will inform them that they will be allowed to continue to purchase on eBay, as if those who find their income reduced to zero would want to reward eBay with future purchases.

Sellers should expect that the next seller release from eBay is going to hold some unpleasant realities for small sellers who manage to survive the genocide. These changes will be on a take it or leave eBay basis. eBay executives do not care if sellers elect to leave.

Since eBay profits from returns, expect that the managed return process will become mandatory for all sellers with the next release. Also, since eBay will need to replace sales volume which will be lost as a result of the ongoing seller purge, expect that the Global Shipping program will become mandatory as well especially since eBay realizes substantial revenue when they mark up the international shipping costs to overseas buyers.

[Dunersdunes]

Register the tracfone in name u registeted with on ebay.

[Dmshark25]

I agree I think the immediate trigger is making a seller account right away regardless of what is used.

The longer u keep the account as a buyer account the better , they use a security program that probably is set to hit accounts with certain criteria

And the number one of an account being stealth is creating a seller account in a day or week, I get best results leaving as a buying account for 2 months , than switching to a seller account for me this way is the best and I never receive a mc999 .

And buyer accounts are do easily made u can make 10 a day if u wanted to and before u know it 2-3 months go by.

I completely forgot about one account made almost a year ago , ALSo with a Paypal weren't linked and when I changed it over to a selling account they gave me 100/$5000 limit. Paypal holds still existed but nice start off limit.

[glacier922]

Dmshark, what do you buy and how do you receive goods? Please don't tell me you got 20 mail boxes for 20 stealths do you? That is expensive for a new stealther.

[nyc]

Lost 2 last night, one this morning. Hopefully can limp through with 5 til Christmas.

[Dunersdunes]

Thats a category limit thats has nothing to do with your selling limit