The New MC999 "To Avoid Ideas" Master list

BigCJ · #23 11-07-2013

Im starting to think its Google voice as well as other factors.

I have one cell phone and quite a few GV accounts.

Ive started many accounts and all of a sudden they are smacking me with the MC999 on auctions that have been running for around 5 days on year old accounts. All of them have GV. But the one with the original mobile number is fine.

I just bought a bunch of phones though so I am going to test it out.

zoneout · #24 11-07-2013

How can they tell its a GV number?

joanna4051 · #25 11-08-2013

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Originally Posted by cjmixers

Im starting to think its Google voice as well as other factors.

I have one cell phone and quite a few GV accounts.

Ive started many accounts and all of a sudden they are smacking me with the MC999 on auctions that have been running for around 5 days on year old accounts. All of them have GV. But the one with the original mobile number is fine.

I just bought a bunch of phones though so I am going to test it out.

I'm waiting for mine to arrive in the mail. Let us know how it works.

joanna4051 · #26 11-08-2013

zoneout,

I know nothing about technology but there is such software out there. There is even a simple Android application that tells you if the incoming call is one that is being forwarded.

cjw7 · #27 11-08-2013

@cjw7, did you use a real mobile number and not call forwarding or google voice?

sendhub, which is forwarding

joanna4051 · #28 11-08-2013

Sandy,

Since you've had such success with these accounts, may I ask what you use to verify your phone number?

I'm sorry if this was asked already.

glacier922 · #29 11-08-2013

I just reinstated another stealth account. Didn't ask for the database questions. It was strange. The option for calling was, by default was the suspension option, so I guess that was already predetermined that it was the softball questions. I tried to see if I could choose the raise the selling limits questions, but I couldn't find it, I only wanted to see it. Anyways, if I can get those softball questions, I'll take those mc999s all day.

I couldn't quite be as disciplined as Sandy D on not getting a MC999. She's got 500 accounts so she can let new ones age a bit and follow the rules cleanly. I'm only on my 4th stealth and I need to sell something right away. I know there's a possibility to get the mc999, but as long as its those softball, it's all good.

I guess by the time I get to the 30th or 40th account, I could go clean to build up more.

r00tk3y · #30 11-08-2013

SandyD has 500 accounts, she could take over any market she wanted, shes like a super-god.

bobCrocker · #31 11-08-2013

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Originally Posted by joanna4051

You are correct, glacier, thank you. I have created stealth in the past, many. two weeks ago I opened 4 new accounts. I did that using the same techniques as always, which yes, I have bought and followed the book, and 3 of them got the MC999 message requesting that I myself request higher selling limits.

PLEASE NOTE AGAIN, NOTHING WAS LISTED ON THESES ACCOUNTS YET. THEY WERE AGING.

Upon calling, one time I was sent to trust and safety and asked simple questions as to what I will be selling etc. and the other 3 times I was sent to the vetting department and asked to verify identity via answering multiple choice questions from a public database. Needless to say, those accounts did not get their selling privileges reinstated.

ANother note, while I have not sold anything on these accounts and each had a 10/$1000 limit, the message said that I HAVE TO call to have my limits increased. I'm stumped.

So this is happening when we are aging our accounts. Now I get it. How long did you have the accounts up for?

BigCJ · #32 11-08-2013

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Originally Posted by zoneout

How can they tell its a GV number?

I think they know when certain numbers are assigned to certain carriers.

Its just like the Vanilla visas that certain numbers no longer work.

But, again, I will wait till the phones get here to give a verdict on my findings.

joanna4051 · #33 11-08-2013

bobCrocker,
I got the notices 2 days after creating the accounts.

bobCrocker · #34 11-08-2013

That's interesting... I hope that does not happen as I hit the second day of this stealth account aging tommrrow. I was just so confused at first because people had different ideas.

HurricaneHuntr · #35 11-11-2013

You can't really say it's GV or not. Unless you have a lot of practice. Let's hope it is only google voice... but i doubt it.

corleone · #36 11-11-2013

There are several types of MC999's so let's not get confused here.

There are MC999's for listing vero items, high risk, second chance offers which exceed our monthly limit, New seller MC999's where they ask the vanilla questions.

Then there's the Automated Limit Reduction MC999 which started October 1st. It is a restriction that hits new seller accounts within 72 hours of account creation. This is regardless if you've listed an item or not.

The ALR is worse than other MC999's as they've narrowed down that your account is likely a "stealth user", and ebay has gone into attack mode on these accounts. They want you to verify public database questions, and if you can't, then likely they will shut you down. You could get lucky and get a cool rep who will bypass the system, I've had a couple do it, but 3 out of 4 of them were suspended for good.

My goal last month was to see what was causing them, so I created my accounts using different variables. I used different phones, different credit cards on my paypal. . .I even went out and bought a new cell phone to tether from to give me a new ip range to see if they were attacking me, or my region since I open so many accounts.

The trigger for this new restriction seems to be using a call forwarding service.

In the last 42 days, I've created 40 accounts. 18 of those accounts were using prepaid phones, 12 Google voice, and 10 with another online fwd service.

The 18 accounts that used prepaid phones have been safe. No MC999.

The other 22 accounts were not so lucky, as 14 of them got the ALR.

About 2 weeks ago I figured it out, switched to only prepaid phones, and my new accounts have all been safe.

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Originally Posted by glacier922

@sandy d

Yes! You are human! You got the new mc999 too! Lol. I was thinking that this new mc999 had to have gotten you too! Anyways, jjgold said to avoid this just select the reason why you are calling in is because of suspension and not raising selling limits. If you choose raising selling limits, you'll get the public database questions, whereas if you choose suspensions then you get those softball questions like do I have the inventory in possession.

Corleone said that it was google voice and other call forwarding service that triggers the new mc999.

I called In yesterday, and didn't get the public databse(though I was not aware of the select suspension reason to call), she asked me to put in a bank acct, and was uneasy about my gv number. I told her that I merged my real cell number with gv, and that it's a working cell. I'm awaiting the answer today, as they pp is depositing my 2 deposits. We will see.

corleone · #37 11-11-2013

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Originally Posted by Moscutter

You can't really say it's GV or not. Unless you have a lot of practice. Let's hope it is only google voice... but i doubt it.

I do have quite a bit of practice, as I do this as a full time job. This is how I make my living.

Open an account with a tracfone and let us know if you get the ALR MC999 restriction.

I think you'll find that you only get them on GV or other FWD services.

Until someone gets one with a prepaid phone, I think I've isolated the issue.

glacier922 · #38 11-11-2013

Corleone, I wonder why the second time around I didn't get the public database questions.

corleone · #39 11-11-2013

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Originally Posted by glacier922

Corleone, I wonder why the second time around I didn't get the public database questions.

Could be that you got hit with a different restriction, or the rep was inexperienced, or maybe they really didn't give a crap. Did you get after creating the account, or after listing an item?

The MC999's you get after listing items are different, and the questions are easy to answer.

What most of us are concerned with is the Automated Limit Reduction that is a new policy to crack down on new stealth accounts.

glacier922 · #40 11-11-2013

Corleone,

It was actually after I sold 1 item and I relisted the item a second time. The first time I got the database questions, put up a low risk item, but I also logged in with my legit ip.

So then, the next day, bam, mc999, called in got the public database question.

Btw, the time I got the easy questions, I didn't add a bank account on there. The rep asked me to.

#41 11-12-2013

I have gotten mc999 when I use prepaid sim cards to verify my account. They usually ask the softball questions, but I have received the database questions as well. It depends heavily on the rep in my experience

glacier922 · #42 11-12-2013

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Originally Posted by Speeder33

I have gotten mc999 when I use prepaid sim cards to verify my account. They usually ask the softball questions, but I have received the database questions as well. It depends heavily on the rep in my experience

Of the new accounts you did create with prepaid sim, how many did you get were mc999? And of those mc999, how many of them were softball questions?

Was it something you did that got an mc999 in the first place? Thanks.

#43 11-12-2013

All were hit with mc999 once I listed an item, regardless of what I listed (from books to used dvds to household items). Usually they were softball questions (maybe 75-80%). I used to not need verified paypal accounts before I called in....but now it seems that they have changed that. Anybody else notice that?

glacier922 · #44 11-12-2013

Yes, the softball questions I received was a stealth that I was creating that did not have a bank acct attached. They asked me to add one, and then asked for the softball questions. On this account, I sold one item without a bank acct actually. Maybe we shouldn't verify and sell, then we'll get the softball questions?