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ocmajid 11-23-2013 09:29 PM

Help! Is this a elaborate scam or am I being too paranoid?
 
I sold my computer on eBay with a buy it now for $750 and the buyer is new with Zero feedback but they sent payment and I see it in my paypal... I also emailed the paypal email address and asked for photo ID and they sent it with same name and matching shipping address thats on paypal is on the drivers license.

Is this some elaborate scam or am I safe? The paypal confirmed address is the same thats on his drivers license..

Ever since I started stealth I have been cautious about everything....

roberto 11-23-2013 10:04 PM

Re: Help! Is this a elaborate scam or am I being too paranoid?
 
If you sent it tracked your covered even if he does a credit card chargeback.

So long as he does not do , item not as described chargeback.

If he does "Item not received", or "unauthorized transaction " charge back, your covered.

Paypal claims are no issue as well if you send tracked. Your only worry should be Credit card chargebacks

ocmajid 11-23-2013 10:17 PM

Re: Help! Is this a elaborate scam or am I being too paranoid?
 
Thanks, thats why I was thinking too.

I just emailed him asking if he would pay with a money order.

Hopefully he will agree to it.

I've never sold to a zero feedback buyer and I don't know if I want to take the chances...

It could be a scammer trying to file " not as described" but why would he have his ID and matching address... and he is only 19 years old.

what would you guys do in my shoes? refund and sell to someone else?

he is also "The sender of this payment is Unregistered"

roberto 11-23-2013 10:44 PM

Re: Help! Is this a elaborate scam or am I being too paranoid?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ocmajid (Post 505774)
Thanks, thats why I was thinking too.

I just emailed him asking if he would pay with a money order.

Hopefully he will agree to it.

I've never sold to a zero feedback buyer and I don't know if I want to take the chances...

It could be a scammer trying to file " not as described" but why would he have his ID and matching address... and he is only 19 years old.

what would you guys do in my shoes? refund and sell to someone else?

he is also "The sender of this payment is Unregistered"

id he doesnt agree to cash payment, refund, all signs say scam

MM78 11-24-2013 12:06 AM

Re: Help! Is this a elaborate scam or am I being too paranoid?
 
Next time you need to set restrictions on who can bid.
Quote:

Originally Posted by ocmajid (Post 505774)
Thanks, thats why I was thinking too.

I just emailed him asking if he would pay with a money order.

Hopefully he will agree to it.

I've never sold to a zero feedback buyer and I don't know if I want to take the chances...

It could be a scammer trying to file " not as described" but why would he have his ID and matching address... and he is only 19 years old.

what would you guys do in my shoes? refund and sell to someone else?

he is also "The sender of this payment is Unregistered"


rsot 11-24-2013 02:36 AM

Re: Help! Is this a elaborate scam or am I being too paranoid?
 
When in doubt, don't ship

css1 11-24-2013 11:05 AM

Re: Help! Is this a elaborate scam or am I being too paranoid?
 
Yeah, if you don't feel good about it, don't ship.

He's likely just going to scam you, turn around and list it.

JJGold 11-24-2013 12:02 PM

Re: Help! Is this a elaborate scam or am I being too paranoid?
 
What am I missing here? You listed an item, it sold, the buyer paid, buyer supplied drivers license, address matches PayPal. WTF is the buyer to do? Put your big boy pants on and ship the item. That's what eBay sellers do.

MM78 11-24-2013 12:06 PM

Re: Help! Is this a elaborate scam or am I being too paranoid?
 
lol, maybe he's waiting for DNA and SSN# verification!

JJGold 11-24-2013 12:18 PM

Re: Help! Is this a elaborate scam or am I being too paranoid?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 505868)
lol, maybe he's waiting for DNA and SSN# verification!

Right? Or run his name and DOB on the public database/background check. Plenty of services out there that can be had for < $20.00.

JamesNorth101 11-24-2013 12:42 PM

Re: Help! Is this a elaborate scam or am I being too paranoid?
 
Does not strike me as a scam, personally if I was the buyer there is no way in hell I would have emailed someone over my ID.

If you have a bad feeling about it though, just refund and sell again, this time making sure you set the requirements for buying.

joesshooze 11-24-2013 01:24 PM

Re: Help! Is this a elaborate scam or am I being too paranoid?
 
What JJGold said. The buyer did everything correctly. Ship the item but CYA. I don't understand how you could even ask to send a money order if the buyer already paid? Not to mention that would be a deal breaker for me. I buy on eb for the convenience. If I have to go get a money order I might as well go to the store and buy what I want.

rsot 11-24-2013 01:30 PM

Re: Help! Is this a elaborate scam or am I being too paranoid?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 505881)
Does not strike me as a scam, personally if I was the buyer there is no way in hell I would have emailed someone over my ID.

If you have a bad feeling about it though, just refund and sell again, this time making sure you set the requirements for buying.

Exactly - you may still get a negative feedback but, hey, peace of mind beats one negative feedback anyday.

Best of luck on the decision OP

joesshooze 11-24-2013 02:02 PM

Re: Help! Is this a elaborate scam or am I being too paranoid?
 
If you are not comfortable just like others have said here just cancel the sale. Personally I don't like to do business like that. You can easily set buyer qualifications. When I used to sell my authentic Jordan sneakers I would not sell to anyone with less than 10 + FB's & NO unpaid item cases what so ever or I cancel the bid or sale then block them.

ocmajid 11-24-2013 05:12 PM

Re: Help! Is this a elaborate scam or am I being too paranoid?
 
lol im going to ship. I don't know i was so paranoid!! thanks for advice even though some of you guys are asses! :)

jeffweico 11-24-2013 05:49 PM

Re: Help! Is this a elaborate scam or am I being too paranoid?
 
I agree, I would ship. But MAKE SURE to use SIGNATURE CONFIRMATION. PayPal requires that on higher-priced items.

Gamefreak 11-25-2013 02:17 AM

Re: Help! Is this a elaborate scam or am I being too paranoid?
 
I personally would ask you to refund my money right away the second you ask me for ID. What right do you have to do that? Thats super suspicious right there by you.

You do what you are suppose to, make sure you receive payment, make sure address is confirmed according to paypal, and ship with signature conformation and insurance to cover your basis.

roberto 11-26-2013 06:41 PM

Re: Help! Is this a elaborate scam or am I being too paranoid?
 
I say your making a mistake by shipping.

mercurial333 11-27-2013 01:37 AM

Re: Help! Is this a elaborate scam or am I being too paranoid?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gamefreak (Post 505992)
I personally would ask you to refund my money right away the second you ask me for ID. What right do you have to do that? Thats super suspicious right there by you.

You do what you are suppose to, make sure you receive payment, make sure address is confirmed according to paypal, and ship with signature conformation and insurance to cover your basis.


Yeah, or instant dispute.

jeffweico 11-28-2013 03:27 AM

Re: Help! Is this a elaborate scam or am I being too paranoid?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gamefreak (Post 505992)
I personally would ask you to refund my money right away the second you ask me for ID. What right do you have to do that? Thats super suspicious right there by you.

You do what you are suppose to, make sure you receive payment, make sure address is confirmed according to paypal, and ship with signature conformation and insurance to cover your basis.

I have to agree. Not to mention, I'm fairly certain that it would violate an eBay or PayPal rule.

When I buy something at a store, I understand they may ask to see my driver's license to verify I own the credit card in question. Same thing if I walk into a bank, or if I apply for credit or a job somewhere. But when an individual eBay seller tells me to fax a copy of my driver's license, I would never agree to it.

It is understandable that a seller would want to protect themselves. But, as a buyer I would feel that I also have a reason to worry. Will my driver's license number be used for identity theft? The main reason people like PayPal is that they can keep their private information private.

rsot 11-28-2013 10:34 AM

Re: Help! Is this a elaborate scam or am I being too paranoid?
 
5 days have past OP - what was your decision?

joesshooze 11-28-2013 10:47 AM

Re: Help! Is this a elaborate scam or am I being too paranoid?
 
I guess I totally missed the driver's license thing. Wow what a pair of cojones to ask for that. Clearly not appropriate & not sure but must violate somebody's rules if not the buyer's own sense of right and wrong. Just wrong to my thinking. I would have said worse than refund my money. More like F off AH. Still shaking my head. LOL


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