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15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

Fifteen years as an above standard ebay platinum powerseller with feedback ranging from 98%-100% and they dumped me. Last year I grossed $750k although my margins were ridiculously low like 1-10% profit. They permanently suspended me for going from above standard to below standard based on one evaluation being 0.22% over the 2% threshold on low shipping dsr's. All the rest of the dsr's under 0.50% which qualifies for top rated status. Appealed, denied. Reappealed by same supervisor stating I self identified the issue. Next day appeal granted. Two hours later revoked.

70% of my income came from Amazon. Last month Amazon permanently suspended me and held over $6k for selling items prohibited items I won't even go into the absurd counterdictions between their internal departments apologizing and reinstating the listings on one side, then removing them and banning me on the other.

Today I bought the ebay and Amazon guides here and am waiting to get the email.

My 2 biggest questions going into this stealth world for the first time is will a VPS eliminate the need of going through all the computer cloaking like changing user names, etc. And secondly, with the kind of sales I'm used to doing (15k weekly on ebay and 15k biweekly on Amazon) is it even possible for stealth accounts to achieve these limits?

Glad to have this alternative to seeking out a job at taco bell and a cardboard box on skid row.

Thanks,
EUNT

Re: Hello. 15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

First, no offense, but %1-10 profit on $750K is absurd. Either you sell the wrong products or you are getting slaughtered by fees. I would never work for such small profit. There are people on here killing what you made on $750K and only selling $100-$150K. So, it's time to really rethink your business altogether in my opinion.

Second, yes, with new EIN's you can pull those numbers again. But, it's going to take some serious patience and experience. So, be prepared for a huge learning curve before you ever get to that level again.

Third, my advice to EVERYONE in your position is to learn to stop relying on EB and AZ for everything. It is time you start learning about the alternatives out there. Not only alternative e-commerce sites, but alternative payment processors as well. And if you can afford your own website, I suggest you get on that ball immediately.

Re: Hello. 15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

Sorry to hear what happened to you. It's very sad. You definitely need stealth. Also start your own website. Welcome you will learn a lot here.

Re: Hello. 15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

Thanks. Yea like I said the margins are ridiculous but that's just one industry I sell in and I'm not about to complain about a 150k salary between the two because of triple the work and low margins. All that can be tweaked however I'm really here to talk about getting back up and running so I can pay my rent and live. Also I had been donating 10% of all my auctions to animal welfare organizations through missionfish since it's inception (tens of thousands of dollars) so the ebay geniuses making these reckless approval denial approval denial decisions on a whim are taking from helpless animals which really sucks.

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Re: Hello. 15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

Donations on EB are a complete joke. There are a million other ways to donate. Don't waste time frustrating yourself by helping EB to look good and charitable.

Start moving inventory to other sites or your own. Places like Et/sy allow you to add your own bank account for direct payments and other e-commerce sites actually have alternative payment processors other than PP.

Re: Hello. 15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

I appreciate your comments, but I donate to organizations near to my heart, not to make ebay look good.
I'm not here to be disparaged because I choose to accept a low profit margin instead no profit margin. With all do respect the people who "would never work for such small profit" lost out on the 150k I made last year.

I've had my own website for 15 years and from first hand experience know that my website sales could not begin to compete with ebay and amazon. Also I sell new goods that cannot be sold on etsy.
I slept 3 days a week and had 2 employees and still couldn't keep up with all the orders.

So I'm here for 3 reasons: amazon, ebay, paypal. I know there are people with emotional hatred toward these companies but I do it to make money, and if the gold mine lies in the same companies that crap on me, give me a pair of rubber gloves so I can pick out the nuggets of gold.

Re: Hello. 15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

So you lost your Amazon and Ebay accounts both close to the same time period?

Re think what you are doing because that is a rarity to loose both of those so close to each other.

And yes, I sold record numbers last year and I have been selling on ebay since 1995 so it can be done.

Just takes effort.

If you are not willing to listen to those here who have been successful then your road is going to be flooded real quick. Many people here way beyond making your numbers and have done it by listening, doing and appreciating others free offer to give advice.

Losing both platforms together tells me you did something very wrong.

Re: Hello. 15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

It will take a long time to get back to being able to sell at that sort of level, but it is more than possible.

We change user accounts to ensure that cookies are kept in place. A VPS will not eliminate the need for that.

Re: Hello. 15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

@ Ebayyounextuesday...Welcome my friend....We are all on the SAME BOAT...Have had a/c with ebay for 10 + yrs but they dumped me last Dec 2013..lol Bought this stealth guide & still reading it through...You may have to wait a while to get to 750K level of selling limit but its possible...So GO STEALTH my friend......

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Wish you the best of luck on your journey!

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Um, I just explained specifically the totally unrelated reasons both Amazon and eBay were shut down, so what you're tellIng me is that my facts are incorrect and if I'd just listen Id have correct facts.

It was probably my mistake mentioning numbers when thats really irrelevant and a topic that naturally brings up competitive feelings, which seems to be the main focus of replies to my introduction by a couple members, despite my repeated polite inference that I'm here to talk about stealth eBay amazon and PayPal, NOT how other people are doing better numbers than me, or how I'm doing something wrong due to my profit margins. And how if I'd just listen I might learn what I specifically said Im not here to learn and already have plenty of knowledge about. I don't claim to be a guru of anything, and the day I decide I want to stop learning I don't foresee. but for what seems like the 5th time in a brand new introduction, I'm not interested in business advice at the moment, I've done quite well for the past 15 years thank you very much. some words of encouragement might be nice, or even some advice on the topic I'm here for.

To the others thank you kindly for your warm welcome.

Re: Hello. 15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

@ebayyounexttuesday

I can't help but have to reply to this. Lol. But if you made 150k off of 750k revenue, your profit margin is not 1-10%. If every item you sell is 10%, you would make 75k. No need to explain. I'm just showing off my 4th grade math skills.

Re: Hello. 15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

Oh my, it's hopeless lol. That number refers to eBay, not amazon. I'll just politely move past any more comments about this subject. Oh ya, I'm here for stealth eBay amazon and PayPal info. Once I get that back in order I'm always seeking out growth knowledge and tips.

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The bottom line here is that the OP wants to get back on eBay and Amazon. Stealth can help with that. We all have our own business models, and do what works for us. Some of us have higher profit margins than others. It sounds to me like the OP has lower profit margins than most, but it is worthwhile to him/her because they sell a LOT of items!. Coca-Cola probably makes less than 1 penny for each can of Coke they sell, but the sell a LOT OF CANS!

I like the fact that you donate. Animals are near and dear to me too. But from the standpoint of helping to keep an account, it makes no difference whether you donate to charity or not. That is not to say that you should stop doing it.

SandyD brings up a good point in that it is unusual you lost both your eBay and Amazon accounts at the same time. What was the common thing going on with both accounts?

Re: Hello. 15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

there was nothing in common between the two it was merely coincidental a couple of months apart. As I mentioned, Amazon's issue was an internal departments take no prisoners approach to strict enforcement of a prohibition on anything related to vaporizers be it cords cases batteries etc.

EBay's issue was the combination of a trend in low shipping DSR's during the last evaluation (0.22% over the 2% threshold) causing the account to go from above standard to below standard, and what they call a high bad buyer experience due to the same shipping reason (4.7/5). My sales had outgrown my crude methods of inventory management before I realized I needed a more suitable system, and I was just making sure the items were delivered within the stated delivery window and not necessarily making sure everything was into transit within the one day handling time I had probably a bit too optimistically stated.

You are exactly correct in your statement about volume verses margins. I learned the hard way that my ego refusing to match competition because the profit was too small was actually costing me the sale. As soon as I got over that my income went from a steady $30,000 average to a steady hundred thousand plus average. I suppose in a perfect world there would be no competitors and I'd set the price for all the products on the market. I'd be fair though and do a straight keystone. :d

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The bottom line is that with Stealth it's possible and effective when getting back to selling. It's going to be a bumpy road but stick with it and eventually you will or may be where you need to be. Unfortunately one never knows exactly the time frame will be to be where you want to be but the harder yo work at it the easier it all becomes.

Re: Hello. 15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

quite frankly I look at this as blessing in disguise because even 15 years in, the devastation it's caused not using and being familiar with these techniques would only be exacerbated the longer it took to happen.

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@OP, is your Amazon account with the 6k in it still able to be logged in? So just waiting out the suspension period?

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I would always advise buying from the forum. It is much more moderated and all the sellers are vetted.

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Donate all you want. You totally missed my point and don't care to listen much. Contradict what we recommend with VPS, that's your choice. You seem to be in a rush, so imminent failure is upon you to say the least.

Like I said, huge learning curve waits in the wings for you. If you don't listen, it only gets worse. You seem comfortable with 1% profit margins, so you shouldn't have any issues with frivolous spending and minuscule to nil results.

Your argument about ridiculously tiny margins is silly. You are comparing yourself to companies who make tens of billions of dollars in revenue selling low profit margin products. You pulled in $750K...which you more than likely rounded up. You lost two huge accounts on the biggest e-commerce sites in the world within just a few months time frame. Your arrogance with the st/ealth ways is childish.

Re: Hello. 15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

I did not say I did better numbers. And no one really cares about your numbers.


What stands out is the fact you lost both platforms in a short period of time and something you did caused it.

What I said was I have been selling on ebay and amazon and never lost an ebay and an amazon back to back ever. In fact, never lost an amazon account and have not lost an ebay account for more then 3 years.

I did not say you were doing anything wrong with profit margins either. I said whatever you did caused both platforms to go down so something you did caused this to happen. I merely was telling you whatever you did to cause this issue needs to be thought out before you attempt a go at it again. Why do all the work and end up back at the same place?

If they are totally unrelated what many of us is trying to tell you is whatever caused this issue needs to be addressed.

If you are not here to learn then what are you here for as we ALL learn from each other and grow.

No one is slamming you here and none of these posters feel any competitive issues with you at all.

Just because someone pointed out those low profit margins does not mean they meant it as an attack.

Chill a bit, we cannot help you if you tell us only half of what the issue that caused both platforms to go down are.

Re: 15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

Welcome! Yes it is possible depending on your TIME, which is always an issue....

If you have the patience and willingness to open many ebay/paypal accounts, keep them organized and safe then anything is possible

Personally I prefer 2-3 Large accounts and work on smaller accounts in meantime. Seems like they all go down eventually if aggressive.

Re: 15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

You also got wait for the account limits, you can start with 10 per month, and 90 days they increase ,Yes it takes time, I had account limit start with 100 items per month, and work my way up to 1000 item per month and $30,000 in month(never get near that since I spread sales accounts).
Its important that you reach those limits every month, like lets say they give 100 per month, you reach, so they give you reason to increase it. (increase are automatic, no need to call to ask)
I never reach my new limit but do what sandyD says spread your sales across accounts.
Key is to sucess
1. Never link yourself, being 100% means 100% stealth
2. Start slow
3. Spread Sales
4. Grow the account slow, takes time to increase limits
5. Ship fast, no bull, never be greedy, being lazy not even one time!, few negatives, or low shipping marks = warning one month then possible ban after 3 months.
6. If account lost, like selling restriction, never ask for it back, because it could link your other accounts. That why you have stealth, so losing one didn't give you a heart attack.
7. Ebay don't care if you 10 items seller or million dollar seller, they treat everyone the same, you screw up, bye bye.
8. Don't sell vero, you may get one copyright warning, never sell that item again the rest of life, if so, ban.
9. Customer is always 1000% right, If seller complains about item, like damage, or bent in little ways, always offer big discount or replacement free of charge, why, he can leave a negative, or low experience on feedback, this can make $20 item causing $1000s in damages the next month, like below standard, and causing you can list per month reduced, account can go bye bye, On ebay you have to be 100% perfectionist. Means answer every question, shipping fast, reasonable shipping cost, and good commutation.
10. Repeat all the steps, everyday, every week, every month.

I learned from here from 2 years ago, Its more than just stealth to learn. If you want to last years. I have lost one account, and still have many 2 year old accounts. (I still learn things today on this forum)
:) THANKS
also another tip: have a back up account for the back up.

Re: 15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

First of all let me say there are a few members on this forum that are pretty arrogant. You just met a few of them.
Second to answer your question ( I hate it when I ask a question, and get a response totally unrelated to what I asked. Its like I'm talking to a government official) yes you can do 750k a year on a stealth account. It will take about 2 years to do that on one account.
You are going to have to open many accounts early, and whittle them down over time.

Last Id like to say there are plenty of helpful people and sellers on this forum. Don't give up because you met a few pompus ones. Also the Stealth guide is worth the time and money. I'm not a shill for this aspkin guy, (ive never talked or IM'd him. Im just an honest forum member who feels indebted to this forum, and I feel empathy for sellers lke yourself.

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Yes its possible, have many stealth account you can do it in a year, but for one account, Its gong take long time for it to get from 10 items per month to 100, then to 1000, in my experience it took less than a year to get 1000 items per month, but having more than one stealth you can get there faster,spreading sales for example. incase the main stealth goes down, you dont have to start over, but don't know what your 2 employees going to say..

Re: 15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

It will take time to get back to the high level of sales OP...just the nature of the game

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Yes that's correct

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Not really a matter of being arrogant. People come to the forum, that is mostly free, and expect to be served like kings and queens.
We are not ex ebay employees, we do not get paid for our time and around 99% of the people that come here ask the same questions over and over again expecting an answer that will suite them when all they need to do is read around.

If someone asks you 20 times if they can make money on ebay, would you not get annoyed?

And the senior members here was merely telling the OP that he MIGHT want to rethink his strategy in the way he runs his business. At the end of the day, its up to the OP to either follow the advice, or toss it to the sea. We have had our share of both.

A simple fact is this: 99% of the time WE (the account owners) cause the links that bring us down.

The advice members give here is trying to get those in need to break down their tactics and come at ebay another way.

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? I introduced myself and provided a clear picture of my situation. I have no clue what your talking about contradicting vps I'm assuming this is a deflection but here is a verbatim breakdown of your reply to my introduction:


1) "First, no offense," -ie I'm about to offend you (Wow, quite the inviting first words to an introduction huh?)

2) "but %1-10 profit on $750K is absurd" Ok, so it begins with mocking my business model and insulting my business sense.

3) "I would never work for such small profit" -demeaning, mocking, condescending

4) There are people on here killing what you made on $750K and only selling $100-$150K. -demeaning, condescending

5) So, it's time to really rethink your business altogether in my opinion. -criticizing, demeaning

(Kind of shocking huh? Nevermind being civil or god forbid polite or even friendly, but 5 statements into one reply and literally every single word and statement is a direct insult.)

6) Donations on EB are a complete joke -(Wow, really? In response to my mention of animal welfare donations?) -mocking, criticizing, demeaning

I simply don't have time to waste debating nonsense so I just wont dignify future comments from you with a reply but best of luck to you unkown5454

Re: 15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

TIME OUT............

move onwards.

Intro was made.

Comments made that were OTT.....

Go onwards doing ebay stealth which is the name of the forum game.

Good Luck to ALL

:peace:

Re: Hello. 15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

Thanks Sandy. I actually did explain exactly why in my introduction. Here's what you said that I think may have unintentionally come across the wrong way..

"So you lost your Amazon and Ebay accounts both close to the same time period? Re think what you are doing because that is a rarity to loose both of those so close to each other." -I suppose if you didn't read my post with the details of why I got banned this could be construed as constructive criticism. But the next one ...

"If you are not willing to listen to those here who have been successful then your road is going to be flooded real quick -I'm not sure what gave you the impression I'm not willing to listen so this eludes me but I felt it was a terrible insult to my character and simply baseless.

And then the last comment, again after just introducing myself with one post explaining the reason I was banned,

"Losing both platforms together tells me you did something very wrong."

I think I just felt a little less than welcomed especially after the 'warm welcome' I received from the first members reply, and the sentiment I took away from your reply was "Greetings, welcome to the forum. It's your fault your here, you don't listen, and I don't believe the post you just wrote explaining the reason for the ban."

You seem like a nice person and maybe your post just came across differently than you intended. Hopefully we can move forward in a positive direction.

Re: 15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

Okay, when are you going make your first stealth account? because i can be time consuming ...

Re: 15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

Well I bought a 100/5000 account created in my area from a trusted source who uses VPS and says using the VPS eliminates the need for all the cloaking by user name changing and cookies, etc. etc. I did notice that only vpn is mentioned in the guides here so I'm a bit unsure being new to stealth. But the way its explained to me the vps seems like a no brainer. Someone else mentions that vps gets banned a lot in the us but im not sure how they'd figure that out if the vps ip is within 50 miles of the account address. I'm waiting to receive this account and was assured that I don't need to be concerned about any cloaking with vps so I'm not really sure yet what I'm in for in terms of set up time ahead of me. I hope this person is right!

I hear vps is more expensive but then I see it can be had for $10 a month and also is offered free with some accounts like this first one I bought. I really want to set up 10 amazon and 10 ebay accounts as a foundation but not sure if Ill need a different vps for each account (I assume so?)

You know you get one person who is experienced telling you one thing and another person who's experienced telling you something else, all with good intentions and you become unsure whats right. :confused:

PS: I'm interested in getting some aged accounts w feedback if anyone can offer a solid in my area in the US -pm me.

And I'm sorry sandy and unknown for snapping back at your comments I'm just naturally on edge after all this. I invested all my money into upgrading my shipping operation thinking I'd have plenty more next week and now barely have enough money to pay next months rent and literally nothing else coming in.

Re: 15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

A VPS that costs just $10 a month is also very unlikely to be good enough I'm afraid. When it comes to VPS the more expensive the better.

In the US you have much much better option. Using a dongle is far easier and a lot cheaper. Keeping cookies separate is also very simple, it just a case of changing user accounts on your computer and takes about 20 seconds. Keeping track of IP address is also simply and takes 10 seconds.

Your time would be well spent taking a few days to read as much as you can in the forum. When it comes to stealth knowledge is power.

Re: 15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

LOL $10 a month. Good grief

:pound:

Re: 15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

sound advice. I'm sure I will have plenty of questions so I really do value all your opinions and help.

Re: 15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

The one --- offers he says comes with the vps and because amazon free tier offers it free he passes it along to buyers free. Whats the deal with cheap vps? Poor bandwidth /connections/low ram etc?

Re: 15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

You really need to re-evaluate who you are buying your account from. Misinformation is being given.

Re: 15 Year Platinum Ebay Powerseller Dumped Yesterday
 

Oye vey. Give me the dirt.