| | | black_label | 06-10-2014 08:54 PM | Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase So I just got off from a wonderful hour long chat with a customer service rep over at eBay. (There was absolutely no sarcasm in that)
I was feeling chatty today so I kept playing dumber than normal to fish out more information. I got him to spill the beans on the automatic limit increases.
Obviously, I'm not just going to say it out right. BUT.... I will tell you this. For the system to even think about automatically raising your limit, sell HARD and FAST.
The other is a no brainer. Call. I know everyone says don't call but if your account is over 45 days old, eBay actually expects you to call ever 30 days to manually increase your limit. Of course this is given that you are selling well into your limit. |
| Dmshark25 | 06-10-2014 09:46 PM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase A reason it's not recommended to call in is because until you do your account is just monitored by a computer, once you call it is than looked at by Trust and Safety and your products better be Legit, from a reputable Vendor( that eBay says are reputable), you need all receipts, invoices , proof you purchased every single item sold along with items you plan on selling in the future, proof of address, ID, Bank Statements, etc...
Now if you can produce all these things than they may also need to see if you are an authorizes reseller of the item you are selling. Just because you went to Walmart or wherever and purchased 100 of product X doesn't mean you are allowed to resell without written consent of the company
And last even if you have everything in line, eBay may still see you as a new seller and look at you as a risk and that is it the account is finished
Yes you could get lucky by calling in and get a rep that for whatever reason whether they are new and don't know any better or just want to finish the call and go home may just raise your limits and that it , but and this comes from experience more often they will pass you to trust and safety and everything I have mentioned needs to be produced
I have called in before , even with a TRS account and asked for a raise and it took two weeks for me to get them all the info and get someone to look at it and the account ended up being on hold for two weeks and after everything they just restores it and never gave the raise
I chose to do things the hard way and in a way it was good because I learned a lot , but it is a lot of work making that call sometimes if you want to save an account
The best way is just never call, I have spent countless hours back and forth on the phone faxing the same info 5 times calling every day, just a mess
Now after learning the hard way I never call and never receive calls and life is good |
| black_label | 06-10-2014 09:55 PM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase You must have bad luck or sound like a prick on the phone mate. I've had to send things in as well and It never took longer than 24 hours to get things sorted.
You guys make this stuff sound like CIA super secret squirrel stuff, when it's just a joke. I don't sell VeRO because I fully support intellectual property.
But I don't know I've been told all my life I have a way with words so that could be it. |
| slokor | 06-10-2014 10:09 PM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase Quote:
Originally Posted by black_label
(Post 559117)
...or sound like a prick on the phone mate. | Inappropriate and uncalled for.
Especially from a rather new forum member.
You might think you know how things work and you might believe every word an uninformed ebay costumer service rep has to say but believe it or not theres is plenty you do NOT know.
Be a tad more respectful cause with that attitude YOU will not get far. |
| pokerpro | 06-10-2014 10:15 PM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase That selling hard and fast, to get the most raises, is simply not true.....I've done 35 stealth accounts, and that just does not apply to my experience on raises to my accounts. That, and if a 1st level ebay rep told you he had that info, and you believe that?....Well, then you're probably waiting up for Santa and putting something out for the Easter Bunny.
Sorry, but I've talked to too many ebay reps over the last 16 years to A. believe they know. B. believe they would tell you if they did...sounds like you got a rep with an ego that felt the need to impress you with his ebay "inside" knowledge. |
| unkown5454 | 06-10-2014 10:36 PM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase This literally sounds like the rep was trying to trick you into destroying any future account you ever make. |
| Dmshark25 | 06-10-2014 10:41 PM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase Your funny Black_Label, I honestly enjoy all your posts😄😄😄. Very entertaining |
| GreenBean | 06-10-2014 11:51 PM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase Quote:
Originally Posted by Dmshark25
(Post 559122)
Your funny Black_Label, I honestly enjoy all your posts😄😄😄. Very entertaining | I do not.
Totally out of order to speak like that.
Avoid giving him encouragement.
:rip: |
| Moocheeme | 06-11-2014 12:13 AM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase Quote:
Originally Posted by pokerpro
(Post 559119)
That selling hard and fast, to get the most raises, is simply not true.....I've done 35 stealth accounts, and that just does not apply to my experience on raises to my accounts. That, and if a 1st level ebay rep told you he had that info, and you believe that?....Well, then you're probably waiting up for Santa and putting something out for the Easter Bunny.
Sorry, but I've talked to too many ebay reps over the last 16 years to A. believe they know. B. believe they would tell you if they did...sounds like you got a rep with an ego that felt the need to impress you with his ebay "inside" knowledge. | Selling hard and fast does work. However, your account should already have previous sales and feedback.
My limit was 10/1000 and I listed these DVDS and eBay increased my limits to 100/5000 overnight. My limit was 10/1000 before. Keep in mind I already had previous transactions and feedback from previous months.
This method works but only on somewhat established accounts. |
| black_label | 06-11-2014 12:30 AM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase Quote:
Originally Posted by Dmshark25
(Post 559122)
Your funny Black_Label, I honestly enjoy all your posts😄😄😄. Very entertaining | Cheers mate, I knew you would understand it was just a joke. This place needs a little loosening up. Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 559127)
I do not.
Totally out of order to speak like that.
Avoid giving him encouragement.
:rip: | It was a joke, as you can see in my reply to your PM.
As for the rest, I never said exactly how much to sell, in what period of time did I? I may be new to the forums, but in the one month I have been here I have created 50+ stealths and have increased 20+ to 100/5000 limits, multiple others in various limit ranges. And this is by choice because frankly, I have a life outside of my computer so I do not have the time to manage/ship items everyday. I have a well paying day job, Physician Assistant. So all this, is a hobby. So lighten up, take some risk. So what if an account gets burned trying something new? At least you can cross a method off a list. |
| unkown5454 | 06-11-2014 01:22 AM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase No, this wasn't a joke. Nice try kiddo.
Say something stupid then try and tell us how awesome you are at ste/alth.
Take your stories to Facebook, Twitter, etc. |
| Callidus | 06-11-2014 02:00 AM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase Dmshark - seeing as your first post is straight to the point, I will tell you something and this info is here for anyone else.
I put to test calling in, I wanted to prove that half of the stuff on this forum is clearly to deter folk from doing exactly that.
I used 1 phone number, caller ID withheld and changed IP on each new user account.
All these were business accounts and called in to trust & safety, spoke with a different person every time, googled a supplier for my products on these 4 accounts. I wasn't actually selling any of the products that this supplier sells to retailers but wanted to test to see what would happen. As long as you are good at talking and have all the info right in front of you I don't know what the problem is. I received a mixture of increased limits within 3 minutes of being on the phone up to 200 items on one of them! Hey, on other accounts that aren't including in these 4 accounts I got 110 / £10,000 but on that account wanted invoices, worked a treat with 5 mins of being creative.
All of these accounts are still strong and have been for a long time. I wouldn't advise calling in once you have established an account with feedback as you are then more likely to be asked for invoices. |
| pokerpro | 06-11-2014 02:02 AM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase Mooch...you're basing "it works" on one account?? No, it doesn't work...some accounts that you sell fast may get limits raised, but it wasn't because of that....honestly, the naivety of your post makes me at a loss for words....... |
| black_label | 06-11-2014 02:03 AM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase Quote:
Originally Posted by Callidus
(Post 559194)
Some the information on this forum is just.....ummm....wonderful!
Dmshark - seeing as your first post is straight to the point, I will tell you something and this info is here for anyone else.
I put to test calling in, I wanted to prove that half of the stuff on this forum is clearly to deter folk from doing exactly that.
I used 1 phone number, caller ID withheld and changed IP on each new user account.
All these were business accounts and called in to trust & safety, spoke with a different person every time, googled a supplier for my products on these 4 accounts. I wasn't actually selling any of the products that this supplier sells to retailers but wanted to test to see what would happen. As long as you are good at talking and have all the info right in front of you I don't know what the problem is. I received a mixture of increased limits within 3 minutes of being on the phone up to 200 items on one of them! Hey, on other accounts that aren't including in these 4 accounts I got 110 / £10,000 but on that account wanted invoices, worked a treat with 5 mins of being creative.
All of these accounts are still strong and have been for a long time. I wouldn't advise calling in once you have established an account with feedback as you are then more likely to be asked for invoices. |
Exactly, once you get to the higher threshold then just make another. It's much better to have 10 high limit accounts than 100 low limits. |
| Dmshark25 | 06-11-2014 03:20 AM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase Quote:
Originally Posted by Callidus
(Post 559194)
Some the information on this forum is just.....ummm....wonderful!
Dmshark - seeing as your first post is straight to the point, I will tell you something and this info is here for anyone else.
I put to test calling in, I wanted to prove that half of the stuff on this forum is clearly to deter folk from doing exactly that.
I used 1 phone number, caller ID withheld and changed IP on each new user account.
All these were business accounts and called in to trust & safety, spoke with a different person every time, googled a supplier for my products on these 4 accounts. I wasn't actually selling any of the products that this supplier sells to retailers but wanted to test to see what would happen. As long as you are good at talking and have all the info right in front of you I don't know what the problem is. I received a mixture of increased limits within 3 minutes of being on the phone up to 200 items on one of them! Hey, on other accounts that aren't including in these 4 accounts I got 110 / £10,000 but on that account wanted invoices, worked a treat with 5 mins of being creative.
All of these accounts are still strong and have been for a long time. I wouldn't advise calling in once you have established an account with feedback as you are then more likely to be asked for invoices. |
Your talking about calling in for a brand new account with no selling history, so yea you can try and talk and make things up
I'm speaking more on say an account you been selling on for 3-4 months and is still at 10/1000, in this case you can't make things up they look to see what you are selling and need to see receipts on the actual items
If u are going to call it's definitely easier to try and raise limits on an account with no selling history as opposed to an account with history |
| just_smile | 06-11-2014 03:21 AM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase I'm not sure whats more breathtaking, the op's arrogance or naiveity.
Never beleive a word ebay reps say. They make it up to get you off the phone. Infact, they often tell you things that openly break ebays rules and regulations.
To beleive you have inside knowledge based on what one said, is frankly laughable. |
| Callidus | 06-11-2014 03:22 AM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase Quote:
Originally Posted by Dmshark25
(Post 559206)
Your talking about calling in for a brand new account with no selling history, so yea you can try and talk and make things up
I'm speaking more on say an account you been selling on for 3-4 months and is still at 10/1000, in this case you can't make things up they look to see what you are selling and need to see receipts on the actual items
If u are going to call it's definitely easier to try and raise limits on an account with no selling history as opposed to an account with history | Still can be done fairly easily as long as you have everything in order and you don't try and be too smart on the phone, playing dumb always wins. :spy: |
| Dmshark25 | 06-11-2014 03:23 AM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase It's a lack of experience, as you operate more and get experience you realize how things really work
In the beginning everyone is very trusting of eBay because they have no idea of how they work but slowly you realize that everything that they tell you is actually the opposite of what you should actually do |
| Dmshark25 | 06-11-2014 03:29 AM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase And the thing is it's not that they are lying it's just that the reps are trained and told what to say and what to tell the sellers, but they are not the ones in control of your account
It's all a deceptive system, the reps are friendly try and get info from you, that info is documented they tell you everything is great
And than that info is documented and passed on to people that actually control your accounts , so you can have a great conversation with a rep even get a limit increase and 3 days to a week later get the mc999 indefinite selling restriction |
| GreenBean | 06-11-2014 05:57 AM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase Quote:
Originally Posted by Callidus
(Post 559208)
Still can be done fairly easily as long as you have everything in order and you don't try and be too smart on the phone, playing dumb always wins. :spy: | Please be more careful saying this.
You are posting a picture to complete nebwies that this is easily done.
It took you a real long time to learn to have everything in order.....
let's hope that message is getting across.
I go along with Dmshark.
Better to run the accounts carefully and avoid having them flagged.
:shhh: |
| Callidus | 06-11-2014 06:00 AM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 559237)
Please be more careful saying this.
You are posting a picture to complete nebwies that this is easily done.
It took you a real long time to learn to have everything in order.....
let's hope that message is getting across.
I go along with Dmshark.
Better to run the accounts carefully and avoid having them flagged.
:shhh: | No, not posting any picture. I'm simply telling of my experiences with eBay & PayPal, which is 100% the truth. Whether a noob decides to read what I wrote and take it as gospel then that is their problem, they need to read around more.
Information above is correct, do be careful when calling but calling on a new account can be done with due diligence. |
| Dmshark25 | 06-11-2014 06:12 AM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase You need to also be more descriptive, I think you are calling In on new accounts with no selling history correct??
There is always a risk but I'd rather take a risk on an account never used, and if this is the case than that is the reason you are not scrutinized over the items that u have sold.
You may be asked what you will sell etc.. And yes you can have everything in order and try an talk to get limit raises
But someone new may think , and this is including myself that you are calling in on accounts that you have been selling on for the last 3-4 months that been stuck on a low limit an need a raise
now this is an entirely new scenario and if this is the case that you are easily getting raises on many accounts with a 3-4 month selling history and not being hassled with specific invoices on your items as I mentioned in earlier post than what your saying may of worked for a couple accounts and is not easy and not recommended at all |
| Callidus | 06-11-2014 06:14 AM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase Quote:
Originally Posted by Callidus
(Post 559194)
I wouldn't advise calling in once you have established an account with feedback as you are then more likely to be asked for invoices. | I don't think I do need to be more descriptive as I clearly stated in my original post what I was referring to. See above. |
| GreenBean | 06-11-2014 06:16 AM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase Entire thread is perilous.
Nothing in writing from an ebay staffer would make me change my practises.
:nono: |
| Hercules | 06-11-2014 06:27 AM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase I get an increase on any new/old non-flagged accts just by listing a certain product that is so bland they give you increases right off the start. Sorry as usual no tell, no talky.
I'm not cool or too smart I just stumbled upon it selling stuff from my drawer. |
| unkown5454 | 06-11-2014 12:32 PM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase Quote:
Originally Posted by Callidus
(Post 559241)
I don't think I do need to be more descriptive as I clearly stated in my original post what I was referring to. See above. | Your original post is coming from multiple directions that don't coincide with each other.
For example, n00bs would have no clue how to call T&S to ask questions and raise limits. That is not a n00b method.
Some of what you recommend people to do will raise flags on a new account. |
| black_label | 06-11-2014 03:05 PM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase Quote:
Originally Posted by just_smile
(Post 559207)
I'm not sure whats more breathtaking, the op's arrogance or naiveity.
Never beleive a word ebay reps say. They make it up to get you off the phone. Infact, they often tell you things that openly break ebays rules and regulations.
To beleive you have inside knowledge based on what one said, is frankly laughable. |
The fast that is laughable is that you take the term "inside scoop" quite literally.
The point is, having 100 accounts at 10/1000 is worthless. It’s just impractical in my eyes. I would rather lose a 10/1000 account trying to get a higher limit than actually sell items on it. The fact that you think they make things up to get you off the phone is ignorant. For the most part, I hate calling eBay. I hate calling into customer service in any situation because half of the time I am greeted by a rep named “Shequifa” that is very rude, abrasive and does try to get you off the phone as quickly as possible. Frankly, this is not why I hate calling into eBay.
I hate calling into eBay because they have so many rules and policies that not a single one of their reps could possibly have knowledge of everything. THAT is why they are erroneous in most of the things they tell you, not because they want to get you off the phone. eBay is not the KGB people, they will not come to your home and kick down your front door if you call them. If selling on 100 accounts at 10/1000 is your thing, go for it. Frankly, I do not have the time nor the patience to do so. Selling at 10 items over the course of a month just makes you look like someone who is not interested in selling more than this amount on eBay, THAT is why many of you don't get increases. There are plenty of eBay users that sell at that limit for years because that's all they need. They're old and they go to garage sales on weekends and resell on eBay.
And to refute many of your claims, I spoke with the Senior Director, Trust and Safety Department at eBay Inc. I was able to get this phone call because I am a shareholder. So please, stop thinking of my as a naive teenager. I am well into my late 20's have been very blessed and successful in my life. The message I am trying to get accross here, is that you will never get anywhere in any setting unless you go after it. |
| black_label | 06-11-2014 03:33 PM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 559237)
Please be more careful saying this.
You are posting a picture to complete nebwies that this is easily done.
It took you a real long time to learn to have everything in order.....
let's hope that message is getting across.
I go along with Dmshark.
Better to run the accounts carefully and avoid having them flagged.
:shhh: |
That's all that needed to be said, I agree. If you call ebay you better be ready to provide EVERY possible thing that they ask for at that moment. If you're not capable of doing that, then do not call. |
| Dmshark25 | 06-11-2014 03:47 PM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase You can be aggressive without being loud , pushy and flashy, all things that will get you noticed and being noticed is not a good thing with eBay
You may start off with a 100 accounts with limits of 100/5000 each but if you got them limits by making waves and talking too much and marking yourself than those accounts are more likely to get restricted, one they are noticed by eBay and some can be looked at as a risk
Also by pushing limits every month and selling volume on each account you get noticed by competition , and scammers, and just jealous people that don't like to see people succeed
I realize you don't see it his way but your methods single your accounts out to everyone , and even though you are starting out with high limits you are now battering eBay, your competitors, buyers, and just crazy people that will flag you just because they are not making money
Now on the other hand the quiet guy with those 100 accounts with limits 10/1000 each, is sitting back working hard and keeping quiet and as you said yourself looks like someone just selling a few things here and there and not a real seller.
Now fast forward just 90 days ahead , while your big accounts are taking hits , the quiet seller is now getting automated raises and those 10/1000 accounts are jumping to 100/5000. 100/10,000, 300/30,0000, and so on
I have tried going all out in the beginning and being patient and every time patient wins the race here. All those 10/1000 accounts have big jumps beyond the 100/5000 that sometimes when u get to start tend to stay that way for longer.
In my experience the slower the start the faster and stronger the growth |
| black_label | 06-11-2014 03:54 PM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase I can respect your method, thanks for taking the time to make a logical reply. To each his own as the saying goes. Honestly, restricting my original account has been the best thing that eBay has done for me because now I can really begin to sell the volume I want. I see where you are coming from with respect to making waves. However, at this point for me, losing an account is not a concern. It seemed like the end of the world when they restricted my main account before, but now I know better.
By all means I'm not trying to promote anyone to be wreck less, I'm just providing other points of views and ideas which is the foundation of forums. |
| Dmshark25 | 06-11-2014 04:01 PM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase Whatever works for yourself just go with.
The thing is in this forum , there are many new users that don't even know what an IP address is
So you may be more advanced so keep that in mind, the direction we like to tell other members is the safe road, least risk, so that they have better chance of success
Than as members gain experience and knowledge they will try more riskier things that will yield higher reward if they choose
But in open forum you need to assume you are speaking to all beginners and you can't promote risky behavior, you may know how to maneuver and make things work out but 99% of new users will get burned |
| black_label | 06-11-2014 04:04 PM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase Ahhh, I see. Thanks for detailing that for me. That's true, I'm relatively new to stealth accts but I'm pretty avid in anything computer related. I didn't think of it that way. Thanks again |
| Dmshark25 | 06-11-2014 04:12 PM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase Also no reason to tell everyone all your tricks . There is a nice group of experienced members here that have a lot of knowledge of how to run accounts , make accounts , etc,..
If someone is serious about selling online than eventually they will learn the little tricks of the trade , there is no need to reveal everything and ruin it.
The things to share are the basics to get up and running , and than all the other good things depends on the commitment of the member , and whether they have the will and desire to want to build there business and develop there craft of making accounts and operating stealthy |
| slokor | 06-11-2014 04:35 PM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase I held my tongue for the last few hours but Im sorry I have to say it.
Youre full of crap. Im sure others reading this thread are thinking the same thing.
You claim to be new yet at the same time make all of these boastful statements - most of which are completely wrong. To top it off you use offensive words towards other forums members left right and center. You are arrogant. You are pushy. Youre annoying.
To sum it up you are one big douchebag.
You need to learn humility and respect for those on here who have been doing this long before you even started on ebay. And claiming after the fact it was a 'joke' is not an excuse and certainly not an apology - and I believe you owe quite a few people on here an apology for your posts and responses to theirs. Quote:
Originally Posted by black_label
(Post 559392)
Ahhh, I see. Thanks for detailing that for me. That's true, I'm relatively new to stealth accts but I'm pretty avid in anything computer related. I didn't think of it that way. Thanks again | |
| pokerpro | 06-11-2014 04:41 PM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase Slokor...I agree with all you said, but you left one word out.......delusional. |
| pokerpro | 06-11-2014 04:45 PM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase P.S.....wreck less (really??)........is: reckless |
| andreibest | 06-11-2014 09:27 PM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase i really dont know why every one is so scared to call ebay and ask for a selling limit increase, i call them every time and every time they increase my selling limit with out asking for id etc. All you need is to have a fully verified paypal account, a few positive feedback's and when you call them answer their questions fast and with confidence and you will get a limit increase every time without any request for ids etc... |
| pokerpro | 06-11-2014 10:10 PM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase How many folks here have had a different experience than andreibest....I'm raising my hand right now. The UK must be vastly different when it comes to asking for limits, be glad you aren't here in the U.S....you wouldn't have many accounts still active. |
| Sandy D | 06-12-2014 12:56 AM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase Quote:
Originally Posted by black_label
(Post 559372)
The fast that is laughable is that you take the term "inside scoop" quite literally.
The point is, having 100 accounts at 10/1000 is worthless. It’s just impractical in my eyes. | This comment is actually silly.
I have taken 100's of those 10-1000 accounts and turned them into powehouse no limit accounts, high limit accounts etc by not even calling the majority of them at all.
Right now I am pushing 500 of my own sellers accounts all build from baby stealths to powerhouse and 2013 was a RECORD in sales in both number of items sold and dollars.
Issue is newbies see you saying to call and they are not prepared to answer the questions. |
| JumpingJean | 06-12-2014 10:37 AM | Re: Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase I have to admit, I have called several times on different stealths and each time had limits raised from 10/750 to 100/7500 or 200/8000 within 5 minutes of being on the phone. No id has been needed, no questions asked. However that was a few months ago, I have not done it since, as I haven't had any new accounts till now. | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:21 PM. | |
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