Going in with guns a-blazin'?

[Lost in the Supermarket]

I am thinking of jumping in the deepend with guns a-blazin' (not to mix metaphors) and try to set up an account with EB and PP that has mostly true info even though that info has been burned before.

The main differences would be : using good IP addresses, EIN instead of SSN, new phone, and a few others.

What I hope to do is just try to get all the validation stuff out of the way right away so I can build or kill the account without worrying that one day I will be asked for something I can't provide.

With PP I would get as validated as possible with EIN, new bank acct, VCC. Only thing I would avoid is SSN.

With EB I would have a name and address variation of the real info, VCC, new IP, and whatever else I can adjust.

Then......maybe after a few months I will know if the accounts will live or die. But at least I didnt wasted a lot of time and money avoiding things that didn't need to be avoided.

For the address variation I could probably get away with (example) 35A Ital. Ville Dr. instead of 35 Italian Villa Drive

Name change is tight because of the EIN + PP comparison.

Thoughts? Once you are "fully" verified by PP or EB do they come back around if you are careful in service adn paying your bills?

[danshan]

Make sure the address is valid

[MM78]

Have you made Full Stealth Accounts?

[Lost in the Supermarket]

Originally Posted by MM78

Have you made Full Stealth Accounts?

Not with EIN yet. I made 4 (2 active) full stealth but one of these days I will have to supply SSN unless I spread my stuff out over 15+ aco****s. About 75% of my stuff is totally above board and I shold be able to sell it without problems (as far as marchandise goes). Was hoping ot have a EIN type account for those "frontroom" items.

[pokerpro]

My big question is why? I can never understand why people want to go 1/2 way on stealth accounts....that's not "jumping in the deep end". Variations are a timid way to stealth....If you're going to do a few accounts, you want them to look as different as possible...which accounts are going to be suspicious if they ever get looked at...J. Brown & John Brown..... or Dave Green & George Wilson? I would ask you to ask yourself, why go variation??

[SaiJin]

Frankly, I will bet that your account won't last.

Look, we have stealth accounts to make a living and thus we need consistency right?
The way you are wanting to do it seems like you'll just waste your time.

Why don't you do it the right way? Nice and Slow and follow the stealth guide to the dot?

Guns blazing won't get you far. A cool, calm head will.

[Lost in the Supermarket]

Originally Posted by SaiJin

Frankly, I will bet that your account won't last.

Look, we have stealth accounts to make a living and thus we need consistency right?
The way you are wanting to do it seems like you'll just waste your time.

Why don't you do it the right way? Nice and Slow and follow the stealth guide to the dot?

Guns blazing won't get you far. A cool, calm head will.

Let me try again......

I have lots of stuff that has no VERO issues or anything else. Totally legit. I would like to set up a legit account to sell that stuff. Unfortunately I have burned my address, SSN and all. I am thinking of setting up an account using an EIN and sell just the no-threat things.

As for the other stuff I have......I will be using stealth for those.

Picture it this way.........

A business in the storefront that sells lots of stuff, pays taxes, gets licenses, and joins the BBB. But in the back, hidden from view is the part of the business that deals in shady (VERO) merchandise.

I want a worry-free account that is as-legit-as-can-be considering I have burned certain info.

[Lost in the Supermarket]

Originally Posted by saijin

frankly, i will bet that your account won't last. {{{i only need one that slips through the cracks}}}

look, we have stealth accounts to make a living and thus we need consistency right?
The way you are wanting to do it seems like you'll just waste your time.

Why don't you do it the right way? {{{actually, the "right" way is with legit info, and that is what i want....a legit account for the legit stuff i sell (75% of the total stuff)}}}}} nice and slow and follow the stealth guide to the dot?

Guns blazing won't get you far. A cool, calm head will.

see embedded notes in the quote

[danshan]

Your idea is flawed. Some old info means dead, get all info they want out of the way first ( they can ask for ss# really anytime) best method is design enough accts to handle your sales you need with a cushion start slow and roll. Stealth is only around because even legit accts get hit too

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by Lost in the Supermarket

Let me try again......


I want a worry-free account that is as-legit-as-can-be considering I have burned certain info.

Don't we all?

EIN is doable but I (frankly) would avoid reusing old info.

Your worst risk is a manual review.

The dominoes will, and do fall....

[GreenBean]

risk of going in guns blazin' reduces chances of longer term survival. Consider re-doing plan

[aspkin]

It's best to go with all new 'real' information if possible.. you don't want to link anything to previous accounts. If you're going to do it, do it right.