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imboxsy 12-08-2014 06:20 PM

Re: 4 Years Stealth - 6 Figures Annually - Still Getting Linked
 
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Originally Posted by elmono (Post 617659)
Are you using Dedicated VPNs with static IPs?

Are the items being sold in the same category but different? Or different category all together?

I've had 50+ amazon stealth accounts for a while and never had a linked account

you have 50 LLCs? Seems like a tax nightmare

elmo 12-09-2014 03:06 PM

Re: 4 Years Stealth - 6 Figures Annually - Still Getting Linked
 
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Originally Posted by imboxsy (Post 617669)
you have 50 LLCs? Seems like a tax nightmare

I have a tax professional that deals with all that busy work :P

vogeltron 12-15-2014 06:19 AM

Re: 4 Years Stealth - 6 Figures Annually - Still Getting Linked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by imboxsy (Post 617669)
you have 50 LLCs? Seems like a tax nightmare

I can barely keep track of my eBay stealth's. I couldn't imagine Amazon with the LLC and the Mac Address issues. Crazy.

vogeltron 12-15-2014 06:20 AM

Re: 4 Years Stealth - 6 Figures Annually - Still Getting Linked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elmono (Post 618081)
I have a tax professional that deals with all that busy work :P

If you truely make that work you are the man. If I had 50 EINs/LLCs I would be audited a MILLION times over.

elmo 12-15-2014 04:42 PM

Re: 4 Years Stealth - 6 Figures Annually - Still Getting Linked
 
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Originally Posted by vogeltron (Post 620258)
If you truely make that work you are the man. If I had 50 EINs/LLCs I would be audited a MILLION times over.

I don't have anywhere near 50 EINs haha, that does sound like a nightmare. :nerd:

amazonp 12-16-2014 03:45 PM

Re: 4 Years Stealth - 6 Figures Annually - Still Getting Linked
 
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-VPNs from all different companies (I know there can be an issue with bad IPs, but I always check them on RBL lists and request new ones until there aren't any hits - and none of them were linked until about a month in on the first one, and a month and a week on the second so it wouldn't be that others got caught on these IPs)
why check RBL? blacklist IP will for other issue not for amazon?
amazon will never check spam list?

i found amazon can detect OS footprint of VPN.
so if your vpn server is under ONE server/OS, it will be problem

mshamazon 12-17-2014 10:43 AM

Re: 4 Years Stealth - 6 Figures Annually - Still Getting Linked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by amazonp (Post 620781)
why check RBL? blacklist IP will for other issue not for amazon?
amazon will never check spam list?

i found amazon can detect OS footprint of VPN.
so if your vpn server is under ONE server/OS, it will be problem

I check RBLs because there exists no other comprehensive list of abused IP addresses and I bet there is a correlation of abuse since this usually indicates an ip address was once sold cheaply for various uses (email spamming, ticket master, etc). In other words, if you're a cop checking someone from out of town and they don't pull up in your database, why not check the federal database (you know Amazon has access to it - if they don't incorporate it now they easily could in the future).

Also I believe you are either confused between VPN and VPS, or you are misunderstanding how VPN works. I can't figure out what you're trying to say here but Amazon does look at the OS of whatever device is incoming through the VPN if that's what you mean (which is what a lot of my post was about).

amazonp 12-17-2014 12:02 PM

Re: 4 Years Stealth - 6 Figures Annually - Still Getting Linked
 
VPN server is another computer right? so when VPN connect to amazon, amazon will know OS of VPN info. mean amazon know it is another computer/OS.

imboxsy 12-18-2014 07:50 AM

Re: 4 Years Stealth - 6 Figures Annually - Still Getting Linked
 
are your accounts still getting linked? I wonder if they identifying it as a VM based off the fingerprint and considering that a risk

elmo 12-18-2014 08:31 AM

Re: 4 Years Stealth - 6 Figures Annually - Still Getting Linked
 
I've never had an issue with vmware stealth accounts

mshamazon 12-18-2014 07:16 PM

Re: 4 Years Stealth - 6 Figures Annually - Still Getting Linked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by amazonp (Post 621104)
VPN server is another computer right? so when VPN connect to amazon, amazon will know OS of VPN info. mean amazon know it is another computer/OS.

VPS has its own OS that is visible to ebay/Amazon. However, that still doesn't mean they're easily detected as a VPS. With a VPN, Amazon sees the OS of your machine - a VPN has no OS that is visible to a server.

mshamazon 12-18-2014 07:22 PM

Re: 4 Years Stealth - 6 Figures Annually - Still Getting Linked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by imboxsy (Post 621403)
are your accounts still getting linked? I wonder if they identifying it as a VM based off the fingerprint and considering that a risk

Have not been linked since - and to my knowledge, there are no markers visible through the browser that indicate a VM as it is considered a security risk (lots of research on this too). Lots of people use VM for stealth without issue (I have received multiple PMs about all this).

GreenBean 12-18-2014 07:36 PM

Re: 4 Years Stealth - 6 Figures Annually - Still Getting Linked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vogeltron (Post 620257)
I can barely keep track of my eBay stealth's. I couldn't imagine Amazon with the LLC and the Mac Address issues. Crazy.

There should be no MAC address issue though.

Better options are available.

imboxsy 12-19-2014 12:30 AM

Re: 4 Years Stealth - 6 Figures Annually - Still Getting Linked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mshamazon (Post 621628)
Have not been linked since - and to my knowledge, there are no markers visible through the browser that indicate a VM as it is considered a security risk (lots of research on this too). Lots of people use VM for stealth without issue (I have received multiple PMs about all this).

What i find interesting is that when i create a new VM (windows 7 using VMplayer), it doesn't have flash installed. So i were to instantly start browsing the web, websites would be unable to gain flash cookies on me. I wonder if amazon see's this, they consider it a risk. IDK

mshamazon 12-19-2014 04:07 PM

Re: 4 Years Stealth - 6 Figures Annually - Still Getting Linked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by imboxsy (Post 621701)
What i find interesting is that when i create a new VM (windows 7 using VMplayer), it doesn't have flash installed. So i were to instantly start browsing the web, websites would be unable to gain flash cookies on me. I wonder if amazon see's this, they consider it a risk. IDK

That has nothing to do with VM - that's just the specific browser and version of Windows you have installed. Chrome, for instance, has flash built in (which runs on VM or physical machine the exact same way). Firefox, by default, does not have flash unless you've installed it previously (in Internet Explorer). Lots of people with new computers never even install flash because everything runs in HTML5 - I wouldn't really say it's super suspicious.

But regardless - enable flash cookies behind a VPN and it won't matter.

imboxsy 12-19-2014 05:01 PM

Re: 4 Years Stealth - 6 Figures Annually - Still Getting Linked
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mshamazon (Post 621958)
That has nothing to do with VM - that's just the specific browser and version of Windows you have installed. Chrome, for instance, has flash built in (which runs on VM or physical machine the exact same way). Firefox, by default, does not have flash unless you've installed it previously (in Internet Explorer). Lots of people with new computers never even install flash because everything runs in HTML5 - I wouldn't really say it's super suspicious.

But regardless - enable flash cookies behind a VPN and it won't matter.

gotcha. Yeah i have been using 24vc and i'm loving it

macbook 02-17-2015 04:02 PM

Re: 4 Years Stealth - 6 Figures Annually - Still Getting Linked
 
hows about your DNS and transparent DNS proxies used by some ISPs now.

dns leak test?


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