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techdawg 03-22-2015 07:47 PM

Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Hello all,

First post here on the forums. First, thanks Aspkin and the powerusers here for all the things I have learned over the past couple months reading, it has helped me greatly.

So I have gotten a good grasp of creating accounts and I have been able to run a few accounts now with no issues, but I have a couple of questions:
  1. Is there a cheaper alternative to using the MyVanilla Gift cards? (like vcc)
  2. Can I use VCC to Verify Paypal?
  3. What about VBAs, would it be cheaper/smarter to use a VBA to verify a new account first, and add bank account later after getting some history on the account?
  4. I have been buying the $5-8 tracphones and using them to verify without issue, is there a more cost-effective alternative like using SIMs?
  5. Can anybody recommend a cost effective hotspot service I can use for ip logging?

Thanks for answering my questions! :clap:

Klemantina 03-22-2015 08:26 PM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
2. As far as i know Entropay works for many people, not sure about US.
3. I use CC and when i get my first couple of sales i add a real bank account. I think VBA is a waste but i'm not sure about US rules.

SilentHill 03-22-2015 08:31 PM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
yeah I havent found any real use of VBA's. it may make the account stronger. Doesnt seem to stop my selling.

rsot 03-22-2015 09:16 PM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Welcome to the forums. All the best as you learn stealth.

Entropay does indeed work. Lots of options for you to explore - don't go too cheap and dont use overabused services

techdawg 03-22-2015 10:25 PM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Thanks for quick replies, do you know if you can use entropay in place of prepaid card to confirm paypal account?

MM78 03-22-2015 10:39 PM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by techdawg (Post 652944)
Thanks for quick replies, do you know if you can use entropay in place of prepaid card to confirm paypal account?

Yes, EntroPay will work just fine confirming your PayPal.

123 03-23-2015 12:08 AM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Welcome aboard, and watch out with getting to wrapped up with cost savings, quality can diminish and you can end up losing alot more money in the long run

Sumer 03-23-2015 01:11 AM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Few questions about entropay.
Can you make a virtual credit card on there and just attach a bank account to it?
If the account you attach it to gets banned for whatever reason, can you make another card using the same bank account or would it have to be a new one?

Thank you.

muzzie 03-23-2015 02:35 AM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
There are ways of getting withdrawals directly into Entropay ;)

JamesNorth101 03-23-2015 05:46 AM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muzzie (Post 652982)
There are ways of getting withdrawals directly into Entropay ;)

Not on US PP there is not....

Really need to making sure your giving more accurate information to prevent confusion.

GreenBean 03-23-2015 06:49 AM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 653015)
Not on US PP there is not....

Really need to making sure your giving more accurate information to prevent confusion.

Or the sun will fall down and we will be in more darkness.

Going to be most interesting this if it develops that muzzie gives accurate info.

:clap:

GreenBean 03-23-2015 06:51 AM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by techdawg (Post 652922)
Hello all,

First post here on the forums. First, thanks Aspkin and the powerusers here for all the things I have learned over the past couple months reading, it has helped me greatly.


Thanks for answering my questions! :clap:

Seems you missed a few things in the months of reading....

Never cut corners or be a cheap-skate with account creation.

Good Luck.

:welcome;

rsot 03-23-2015 07:58 AM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sumer (Post 652973)
Few questions about entropay.
Can you make a virtual credit card on there and just attach a bank account to it?
If the account you attach it to gets banned for whatever reason, can you make another card using the same bank account or would it have to be a new one?

Thank you.

Are you talking about bank account on Entropay or on PP? You cant use the same bank account on PP BUT if it's on Entropay, PP cannot see it and you can use the account to fund another virtual credit card

muzzie 03-23-2015 08:13 AM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Don't know about US or UK, but Latvian accounts enjoy Entropay withdrawals.

MM78 03-23-2015 08:16 AM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muzzie (Post 653058)
Don't know about US or UK, but Latvian accounts enjoy Entropay withdrawals.

Then perhaps you should give this type of advice to those people asking from Latvia......there's no point in you giving this type of advice to those who it don't apply too.

JamesNorth101 03-23-2015 10:14 AM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muzzie (Post 653058)
Don't know about US or UK, but Latvian accounts enjoy Entropay withdrawals.

Please look at flags before giving advise then.

dealagreeproceed 03-23-2015 04:15 PM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
stop tryna be cheap. your wasting time n mindpower

yotano211 03-23-2015 09:24 PM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Can you try yo cut costs by finding gift cards issues by banks. they usually got have any precessing fees or buying fees.

Omgoozle 03-24-2015 10:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yotano211 (Post 653216)
Can you try yo cut costs by finding gift cards issues by banks. they usually got have any precessing fees or buying fees.

Chase used to do this but discontinued them about 2 years ago.

What other banks do this?




Right now I'm using the 3x $15 Mastercard GC Packs. 3 cards for $45 total + 4.95 activation fee for all 3.

yotano211 03-24-2015 12:29 PM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Omgoozle (Post 653356)
Chase used to do this but discontinued them about 2 years ago.

What other banks do this?




Right now I'm using the 3x $15 Mastercard GC Packs. 3 cards for $45 total + 4.95 activation fee for all 3.

Some of the larger credit unions have them, no fee for buying them.

techdawg 04-04-2015 04:57 PM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean (Post 653020)
Seems you missed a few things in the months of reading....

Never cut corners or be a cheap-skate with account creation.

Good Luck.

:welcome;

Wise words :d

I think I will re-think my strategy. Thanks to all for the insight

mmartin9999 04-04-2015 07:09 PM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
It costs me $6 to create an account. That includes a physical phone, but does not include the balance on the card I initially fund with(but does include activation fee)

I don't skimp, but I create enough accounts to try to keep the cost as low as I can.

techdawg 04-04-2015 10:49 PM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mmartin9999 (Post 656854)
It costs me $6 to create an account. That includes a physical phone, but does not include the balance on the card I initially fund with(but does include activation fee)

I don't skimp, but I create enough accounts to try to keep the cost as low as I can.

Yer a wizard, Harry.:faint:

Could you please explain how this is done?

I assume that you buy physical phone on Amazon and use Entropay for verify? am I correct in this assumption?

yotano211 04-06-2015 10:27 AM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
There is ways to get it down to 4.95 with just the cost of a real phone. Find those no buying fees gift cards.

mmartin9999 04-06-2015 03:52 PM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by techdawg (Post 656878)
Yer a wizard, Harry.:faint:

Could you please explain how this is done?

I assume that you buy physical phone on Amazon and use Entropay for verify? am I correct in this assumption?

Sorry, got to learn some things on your own.

skyline 04-14-2015 07:36 AM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mmartin9999 (Post 657235)
Sorry, got to learn some things on your own.

Then don't mention it if you aren't going to share what you have learned otherwise it makes seem like you're just stating it to brag about yourself.

skyline 04-14-2015 07:38 AM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 653052)
Are you talking about bank account on Entropay or on PP? You cant use the same bank account on PP BUT if it's on Entropay, PP cannot see it and you can use the account to fund another virtual credit card

If this is true couldn't you hook up a banned bank account to it as well?

rsot 04-14-2015 08:47 AM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skyline (Post 659294)
If this is true couldn't you hook up a banned bank account to it as well?

You can use a banned PP bank account on ENTROPAY - sure - the 2 services are NOT related.

You cannot use a banned PP bank account on a new PP - to be clear.

skyline 04-14-2015 08:58 AM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Are you able to withdraw from PP ---> VCC ----> bank account?

Omgoozle 04-14-2015 11:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by skyline (Post 659317)
Are you able to withdraw from PP ---> VCC ----> bank account?

In some countries yes. Not many. Not the US.

yotano211 04-14-2015 09:37 PM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skyline (Post 659291)
Then don't mention it if you aren't going to share what you have learned otherwise it makes seem like you're just stating it to brag about yourself.

Why should people mentioned some things that they find for themselves. If I mention the bank that I get my gift cards from, that gift card will be used and abused by everyone. And think that ebay might come on here to scout the site out.

I hope you do know that paypal does ban certain gift cards or VCC cards from being used. i have used those store bought cards, the ones that cost 4.95, for months when I started, then the following week when I tried to make some more accounts, those gift cards did not work. Bought some more of the same type of gift cards and those did also not work. I bought another type, didnt work.
Most of us wont be bragging things out.

mmartin9999 04-15-2015 02:20 PM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yotano211 (Post 659458)
Why should people mentioned some things that they find for themselves. If I mention the bank that I get my gift cards from, that gift card will be used and abused by everyone. And think that ebay might come on here to scout the site out.

I hope you do know that paypal does ban certain gift cards or VCC cards from being used. i have used those store bought cards, the ones that cost 4.95, for months when I started, then the following week when I tried to make some more accounts, those gift cards did not work. Bought some more of the same type of gift cards and those did also not work. I bought another type, didnt work.
Most of us wont be bragging things out.

Exactly. I will never share all of what I do, nor would anyone with any sense.

Once a technique is overused you can kiss it goodbye.

It's quite easy to tell who comes here and wants stuff handed to them on a platter. You have to do your time to play the game.

skyline 04-21-2015 12:13 PM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yotano211 (Post 659458)
Why should people mentioned some things that they find for themselves. If I mention the bank that I get my gift cards from, that gift card will be used and abused by everyone. And think that ebay might come on here to scout the site out.

I hope you do know that paypal does ban certain gift cards or VCC cards from being used. i have used those store bought cards, the ones that cost 4.95, for months when I started, then the following week when I tried to make some more accounts, those gift cards did not work. Bought some more of the same type of gift cards and those did also not work. I bought another type, didnt work.
Most of us wont be bragging things out.

Why should people mention things at all? You figured out gift cards could be used b/c someone shared that info w/ you.

GhostOfAmazon 04-21-2015 05:57 PM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by techdawg (Post 652922)
Hello all,

First post here on the forums. First, thanks Aspkin and the powerusers here for all the things I have learned over the past couple months reading, it has helped me greatly.

So I have gotten a good grasp of creating accounts and I have been able to run a few accounts now with no issues, but I have a couple of questions:
  1. Is there a cheaper alternative to using the MyVanilla Gift cards? (like vcc)
  2. Can I use VCC to Verify Paypal?
  3. What about VBAs, would it be cheaper/smarter to use a VBA to verify a new account first, and add bank account later after getting some history on the account?
  4. I have been buying the $5-8 tracphones and using them to verify without issue, is there a more cost-effective alternative like using SIMs?
  5. Can anybody recommend a cost effective hotspot service I can use for ip logging?

Thanks for answering my questions! :clap:

Personally, I create stealth accounts as follows:

Phone: Google Voice. Cost: free
Credit Card: Entropay. Cost: 5.25
Bank Account: Allybank. Convenience: online
Internet/IP address: Sprint Phone tethering. Cost: Included in data plan.

fox20c 04-24-2015 11:21 AM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
You can get your cost even lower and get an addressed verified PP account if you know what CC to use.

rsot 04-24-2015 12:02 PM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Worth noting to new ppl that Google Voice and Allybank have been known to cause issues for some.

@fox20c, when you say verified PP account...you are indicating that some kind of bank account has been used...

fox20c 04-24-2015 02:07 PM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
No bank account needed to get an AVed PP set up. Just the right credit card.

GhostOfAmazon 04-24-2015 05:11 PM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fox20c (Post 662770)
No bank account needed to get an AVed PP set up. Just the right credit card.

Any chance you're willing to share your secret?

Sammich 04-25-2015 10:17 PM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon (Post 662815)
Any chance you're willing to share your secret?

None. This is a brag thread remember? :boink:

GhostOfAmazon 04-26-2015 06:09 PM

Re: Cost-Effective Account Creation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sammich (Post 663167)
None. This is a brag thread remember? :boink:

To be fair, sharing of methods that work is usually met with unbridled criticism and attacks by the "experts", so I can't blame them for keeping it to themselves.


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