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Rubberdog 05-09-2015 07:46 AM

Best vpn?
 
Hi all, search of the forum and stuff suggests 24vc is a decent vpn. Can anyone suggest other companies? 24 seems expensive although I do understand you do what it takes to get back online. I will buy this if its the only suggested option

Any ideas??

JamesNorth101 05-09-2015 07:50 AM

Re: Best vpn?
 
They are the best guys for a new IP :thumb:

Rubberdog 05-09-2015 08:02 AM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 667586)
They are the best guys for a new IP :thumb:

Thought you'd say that lol

Bunneh 05-09-2015 08:05 AM

Re: Best vpn?
 
You know that saying 'you get what you pay for'

Well they are the only people i know that guarantee a fresh IP.

When it comes to VPN its as good as it gets, since, most companies recycle there IP address's and you could end up with one that has already been used with a suspended ebay account.

RosieTosie 05-09-2015 09:14 AM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubberdog (Post 667584)
Hi all, search of the forum and stuff suggests 24vc is a decent vpn. Can anyone suggest other companies? 24 seems expensive although I do understand you do what it takes to get back online. I will buy this if its the only suggested option

Any ideas??


'Seems expensive'!, you are joking of course, new forum members appear on here regularly who think that there are cheaper alternatives, by that time they have realised they were wrong.

agent-x 05-09-2015 11:35 AM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bunneh (Post 667590)
Well they are the only people i know that guarantee a fresh IP.

How is it guaranteed?

How would we ever know if its been used previously or not this is my only concern otherwise I would have signed up a long time ago

Perhaps the seller could respond on this thread? It is something I have been looking into makes life a lot easier when you're running multiple accounts - having one VPN per account

RosieTosie 05-09-2015 11:44 AM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent-x (Post 667639)
How is it guaranteed?

How would we ever know if its been used previously or not this is my only concern otherwise I would have signed up a long time ago

Perhaps the seller could respond on this thread? It is something I have been looking into makes life a lot easier when you're running multiple accounts - having one VPN per account

We know it is guaranteed by the number of people who use this service, some for a very long time without problems.

yankee 05-09-2015 01:38 PM

Re: Best vpn?
 
24vc.com is awesome

DigitalCoke 05-09-2015 02:59 PM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Can someone give me a clear understanding of exactly what the vpn i purchased is going to accomplish for me?

What i know so far
New IP- amzn will not be able to see your real IP or MAC (mac is another story)

Sadly that’s all the totally correct info i have so far.

Will it hide anything else?
As for location, I sounds like it needs to be in your home country. Beyond that if my new address is say in "texas" (it's not) and my new IP shows New York. to me that looks risky. I took a few ip's and the Lat/Lon for all of them was within about 75 miles tested from 5-7 sites. Where do they get this geo info from and will amzn track it?

I'm doing VM's over one internet line. Im planning on a dedicated network card for each VM. Do i need to if all the traffic is going over separate VPN's?

Any good way to get the orders back to you? I am thinking of hooking my shipping program up to run on the vm and connect through the vpn. but i'm worried about the api's between amzn and the program giving amzn to much info.

Reading over a ton of posts on vpn's it sounds like everyone is half and half on if vpn's work. I wonder if it's half the people know how to use a vpn and the other half doesn’t.

RosieTosie 05-09-2015 07:46 PM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Exactly DigitalCoke, you have answered your own question. People on the whole do not understand how VPN's work, or that paying small amounts for one will not get them the setup that they need to operate successful stealth accounts, so they end up back in the forum saying that vpn's don't work when it is really only there cheaply purchased VPN that does not work.

123 05-09-2015 08:20 PM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent-x (Post 667639)
How is it guaranteed?

How would we ever know if its been used previously or not this is my only concern otherwise I would have signed up a long time ago

Perhaps the seller could respond on this thread? It is something I have been looking into makes life a lot easier when you're running multiple accounts - having one VPN per account

This blog post actually answers that exact question in depth:

If our customers succeed, we succeed!

123 05-09-2015 08:22 PM

Re: Best vpn?
 
@DigitalCoke - Yeah if you use a VPN you dont need to get a network card for each VM, just get a fresh ip for each VM and login with it on startup

I run all my accounts through VMware + VPN, makes it extremely easy, I can have five Windows VM up and running at the same time and switch between all five easily and they will all have different IPs, makes multi tasking a ton easier


Edit: @Rubberdog Also if you want to save money can switch to the annual billing as they come with a significant discount over monthly

ovidiu 05-10-2015 01:53 AM

Re: Best vpn?
 
123,

can you elaborate on the network card issue? I was under the impression each VM would have its own virtual NIC, and you would just need a new IP for each VM and account.

Haven't done this stuff before but looking into it now with an interest in running 3 accounts at the same time on one laptop.

123 05-10-2015 02:38 AM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ovidiu (Post 667784)
123,

can you elaborate on the network card issue? I was under the impression each VM would have its own virtual NIC, and you would just need a new IP for each VM and account.

Haven't done this stuff before but looking into it now with an interest in running 3 accounts at the same time on one laptop.

Hi, sure what I do is on VM I set network adapter to bridged and to replicate physical network, so it pretty much just uses my regular internet connection settings, so when the OS starts up all VMs are under the same ip, then I simply just login to the correct VPN for each VM and I'm all set. All VMs would now have a different IP based on which VPN account I logged into. And can start multi tasking between multiple ebay/paypal accounts

ovidiu 05-10-2015 03:26 AM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Ah, so it sounds like between your VM's and your VPN, you just have a bunch of dedicated IP's from your VPN provider and you use (and re-use) one per stealth account, omitting the need to keep track of a huge spreadsheet of IP addresses like when one uses a mobile dongle?

123 05-10-2015 03:39 AM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ovidiu (Post 667801)
Ah, so it sounds like between your VM's and your VPN, you just have a bunch of dedicated IP's from your VPN provider and you use (and re-use) one per stealth account, omitting the need to keep track of a huge spreadsheet of IP addresses like when one uses a mobile dongle?

Precisely! For each ebay/paypal/amazon account I have, I dedicate one fresh ip from 24vc to them, so that ip never changes. So I dont have to note any ips or ever change ips or anything like that, and no matter where I am in the world, I will still have the same ip for my accounts

ovidiu 05-10-2015 03:48 AM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Makes sense. I can see the simplicity and peace of mind this would allow. No juggling mifi devices, no separate laptops, just one machine with a bunch of VM's and the same unique IP address for every account permanently, which keeps eBay and the others happy too.

I was amused to see that 24vc actually promotes their VPN's for stealth eBay. What a hoot!

Anyway, thanks for your input man, this is something I need to consider very strongly as I am consolidating to one laptop with VM's for everything, and I'm tired of juggling connections & devices and keeping track of IP's (one tethered phone, two mobile hotspots, and a high speed cable connection).

agent-x 05-10-2015 10:27 PM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ovidiu (Post 667801)
Ah, so it sounds like between your VM's and your VPN, you just have a bunch of dedicated IP's from your VPN provider and you use (and re-use) one per stealth account, omitting the need to keep track of a huge spreadsheet of IP addresses like when one uses a mobile dongle?

Users can correct me if I am wrong but I think VM is only needed for Amazon.

For eBay you can just create separate users on laptop/PC

123 05-10-2015 10:48 PM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent-x (Post 668076)
Users can correct me if I am wrong but I think VM is only needed for Amazon.

For eBay you can just create separate users on laptop/PC

You dont technically need VM but its just extremely convenient and helpful once you learn how to use it, instead of switching user accounts. I could be logged into 5 users at the same time and multi task, all while still being able to use my main user account for personal stuff

Ebayorbust 05-11-2015 01:23 AM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent-x (Post 668076)
Users can correct me if I am wrong but I think VM is only needed for Amazon.

For eBay you can just create separate users on laptop/PC

As 123 has said, it isn't needed for Amazon either.

Some people just prefer to use VM.

jjscruff 05-13-2015 06:13 AM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 667586)
They are the best guys for a new IP :thumb:

This forum has a referral bonus for 24vc VPN which is cool. But don't sign up for them if you need a working VPN right away. Strong VPN, PIA etc all send you login details you can use right away and offer live chat support if you have problems

24vc didn't give me any information. Only after i emailed asking for it did they then started asking for ID and credit card scans for to security check a $30 purchase. In the end it wasn't worth the hassle and the extra money

123 05-13-2015 10:42 AM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jjscruff (Post 668983)
This forum has a referral bonus for 24vc VPN which is cool. But don't sign up for them if you need a working VPN right away. Strong VPN, PIA etc all send you login details you can use right away and offer live chat support if you have problems

24vc didn't give me any information. Only after i emailed asking for it did they then started asking for ID and credit card scans for to security check a $30 purchase. In the end it wasn't worth the hassle and the extra money

As stated before they just do that to avoid fraudulent orders, just give them your aspkin username and they would pass you without having to give any extra info like ID etc

And of course sites like strong vpn can give you the login info instantly, because all they do is give you shared ips, thats not hard to do, if thats what you want then yes you should go with those sites but its a totally different service in a sense

Bunneh 05-13-2015 10:54 AM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Strong VPN = :rip::rip:

Search the forum and you will see it is AVOIDED because so many recycled IP addresses are used with them.
Dont use that company if you want a long lasting account.

metatrade 05-24-2015 06:26 PM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jjscruff (Post 668983)
This forum has a referral bonus for 24vc VPN which is cool. But don't sign up for them if you need a working VPN right away. Strong VPN, PIA etc all send you login details you can use right away and offer live chat support if you have problems

24vc didn't give me any information. Only after i emailed asking for it did they then started asking for ID and credit card scans for to security check a $30 purchase. In the end it wasn't worth the hassle and the extra money

Whats the referral bonus and where can I find it ?

Thanks

123 05-24-2015 07:28 PM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by metatrade (Post 672004)
Whats the referral bonus and where can I find it ?

Thanks

Hi think he meant that this forum backs 24vc as being a good reliable provider not that their's a bonus from here for signing up

yankee 05-24-2015 10:00 PM

Re: Best vpn?
 
I get all my details for VPN from 24vc within a couple hours for dedicated IPs. Well worth the minor wait to get a quality product and stellar customer support.

tannedweekend 05-25-2015 12:46 PM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bunneh (Post 669049)
Strong VPN = :rip::rip:

Search the forum and you will see it is AVOIDED because so many recycled IP addresses are used with them.
Dont use that company if you want a long lasting account.

Believe it or not have quite a few accounts and they last long.
But for sure is better to go for dedicated IP's or some not 1st google page IP provider

metatrade 05-25-2015 02:00 PM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 123 (Post 672005)
Hi think he meant that this forum backs 24vc as being a good reliable provider not that their's a bonus from here for signing up

24 vc seem to have some good reviews here, can you tell me the difference between 24vc and any other vpn provider that can provide a fresh dedicated IP that has not been recycled ?

Thanks

123 05-25-2015 03:36 PM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by metatrade (Post 672217)
24 vc seem to have some good reviews here, can you tell me the difference between 24vc and any other vpn provider that can provide a fresh dedicated IP that has not been recycled ?

Thanks

That's the difference right there, other VPN providers are not providing truly fresh ips. Most VPN providers probably about 80% or more of them give shared ips which means hundreds of users are using those same ips at the same time. Even when they advertise dedicated ips often times, it doesn't mean your the only one using that ip, but instead multiple people can be assigned that dedicated ip.

And then the remaining 20% of VPN providers that truly give dedicated ips, that your the only one that has it while your plan is active are not fresh ips. Because what they do is lets say for example I sign up for a dedicated ip from one of them use it on ebay and get banned, and cancel it after a month. They dont just never issue that ip again, they simply would give it to you next month when you place your first order. So technically its dedicated cause you are the only one currently using it but its not fresh.

24vc offers truly fresh ips: Guaranteed Fresh IP Address – Explained

boysangur 06-05-2015 10:32 AM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Does 24vc allow you to select a city? The guide states that you should have one within 100 miles of your location.

123 06-05-2015 12:04 PM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boysangur (Post 675122)
Does 24vc allow you to select a city? The guide states that you should have one within 100 miles of your location.

Yes you can let them know the state you prefer when you place the order but its irrelevant as long as your ip is within the same country you can make an account in any state you prefer.

kpizzl 06-10-2015 10:22 AM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 123 (Post 667742)
This blog post actually answers that exact question in depth:

If our customers succeed, we succeed!

Did You choose the deidcated package or the fresh package bc there is two and one doesnt gauarantee free ship only at addit inal cost?

123 06-10-2015 10:58 AM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kpizzl (Post 676596)
Did You choose the deidcated package or the fresh package bc there is two and one doesnt gauarantee free ship only at addit inal cost?

Yeah the fresh plan is the one you would want to get

lukec2000 06-11-2015 05:59 AM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Just a quick question for example my plan is to buy new eBay account from one of the "pro's" get a new VPN with fresh IP address. They have plans on there 12 month is obviously cheapest.

What would happen if the eBay account was suspended (not really my plan but worst case) would they offer a new fresh IP address or is the plan "per IP address" if that makes any sense :D

yankee 06-11-2015 07:16 AM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lukec2000 (Post 676836)
Just a quick question for example my plan is to buy new eBay account from one of the "pro's" get a new VPN with fresh IP address. They have plans on there 12 month is obviously cheapest.

What would happen if the eBay account was suspended (not really my plan but worst case) would they offer a new fresh IP address or is the plan "per IP address" if that makes any sense :D

What you do with that IP or if you get banned/limited is of no fault of a IP provider.

You would have to purchase another plan if you need a new IP.

lukec2000 06-11-2015 07:54 AM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 676843)
What you do with that IP or if you get banned/limited is of no fault of a IP provider.

You would have to purchase another plan if you need a new IP.

That's true just needed clarification.
Thanks !

boysangur 06-11-2015 11:29 AM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 676843)
What you do with that IP or if you get banned/limited is of no fault of a IP provider.

You would have to purchase another plan if you need a new IP.

That's just the question I wanted to ask. I was wondering if something like 24vc was more of a service, where you could ask them to switch out your IP if it gets compromised. I guess it makes sense that you pay for the use of that one IP instead.

Does anyone know if it's possible to go month-to-month somewhere for that reason?

123 06-11-2015 11:38 AM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lukec2000 (Post 676836)
Just a quick question for example my plan is to buy new eBay account from one of the "pro's" get a new VPN with fresh IP address. They have plans on there 12 month is obviously cheapest.

What would happen if the eBay account was suspended (not really my plan but worst case) would they offer a new fresh IP address or is the plan "per IP address" if that makes any sense :D

You can actually request a fresh ip change, there is only a one time fee of $15 for the first time so there's no risk of being stuck with the same ip if you order a quarterly, semi-annual or annual plan and get limited, can read more about it here

Fear Not? Commitment is a GOOD THING!

yankee 06-11-2015 03:43 PM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 123 (Post 676900)
You can actually request a fresh ip change, there is only a one time fee of $15 for the first time so there's no risk of being stuck with the same ip if you order a quarterly, semi-annual or annual plan and get limited, can read more about it here

Fear Not? Commitment is a GOOD THING!

I did not know that!
I just cancelled all those non used IPs when I could have done this.

123 06-11-2015 07:29 PM

Re: Best vpn?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 676940)
I did not know that!
I just cancelled all those non used IPs when I could have done this.

Ha dont worry yeah its relatively new, the post was made public a few days ago! Helps reduce the risks of getting stuck with a limited ip, especially with how unpredictable ebay/amazon in general can be at times


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