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Jackery 07-18-2016 03:23 AM

Re: Received a Law sue certified mail today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UKGiftWarranty (Post 786468)
if you're going stealth why would you use family members details?

They are trying to get high limit accounts.

phaz0rz 07-18-2016 04:46 PM

Re: Received a Law sue certified mail today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackery (Post 786855)
They are trying to get high limit accounts.

Highly doubt that had anything to do with their intentions.

XTC4ME 07-27-2016 02:30 PM

Re: Received a Law sue certified mail today
 
This is from Johnson & Pham representing BMW? They are well known trademark trolls. Personally I told them to f-ck off when they emailed me but my account cannot be traced back to me in any way. I did do a little research on them and they do file suits and press hard for payments. You need to talk to a lawyer asap.

glacier922 07-27-2016 03:05 PM

Re: Received a Law sue certified mail today
 
They emailed you? Did they return your products too? Lol

rsot 07-27-2016 03:20 PM

Re: Received a Law sue certified mail today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XTC4ME (Post 788961)
This is from Johnson & Pham representing BMW? They are well known trademark trolls. Personally I told them to f-ck off when they emailed me but my account cannot be traced back to me in any way. I did do a little research on them and they do file suits and press hard for payments. You need to talk to a lawyer asap.

Seems like some familiarity here

MM78 07-27-2016 05:28 PM

Re: Received a Law sue certified mail today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by glacier922 (Post 788974)
They emailed you? Did they return your products too? Lol

Oh yes, they email sometimes......The first time I tried to sell an authentic item I had purchased from the actual company that J&P represent, they emailed me 1st, then they sent me one of their extortion letters (not certified). I told them to shove the letter up their wazu and if they wanted to take me to court they should go ahead. I had a receipt and everything, J&P are aholes.

glacier922 07-27-2016 06:18 PM

Re: Received a Law sue certified mail today
 
I never got an email from them because I spread my risk all over the place. But if they did, I know I did my stealth correctly.

phaz0rz 07-27-2016 07:21 PM

Re: Received a Law sue certified mail today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by glacier922 (Post 789003)
I never got an email from them because I spread my risk all over the place. But if they did, I know I did my stealth correctly.

No such thing as proper stealth when it comes to lawsuits. They would get a subpoena and follow the money all the way to your bank account, which is (hopefully) registered in your real name. Even if you shuffle money around accounts before withdrawing, they know how to find you. Don't get too comfortable. :nerd:

yankee 07-28-2016 09:03 AM

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It does not take much for a Judge to issue an order for paypal to give up the bank information and find you.

No such thing as being stealthy if they want to sue unless you do not have bank accounts attached to paypal.

Haidukken 07-28-2016 09:11 AM

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If things get serious, this might be helpful.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Q7KGx3gARQeS4/giphy.gif

newjerseymax 07-28-2016 11:44 PM

Re: Received a Law sue certified mail today
 
Do the Hillary!

jojo2012 07-29-2016 06:30 PM

Re: Received a Law sue certified mail today
 
Ive read in cases all over the place that even making up a "stealth" name or usung a family members WITH permission is illigal. Its usually called gaining property under false pretence. Its illigal to make money in anything but your own personal info.

phaz0rz 07-30-2016 08:56 AM

Re: Received a Law sue certified mail today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jojo2012 (Post 789387)
Ive read in cases all over the place that even making up a "stealth" name or usung a family members WITH permission is illigal. Its usually called gaining property under false pretence. Its illigal to make money in anything but your own personal info.

I've considered this many times but I seriously doubt this forum would still exist if stealth accounts are 100% illegal. Ebay and Paypal aren't financial institutions so there isn't any law saying you're required to give them factual info. Stealth becomes a crime when you apply someone else's tax ID to your stealth account, rather than getting your own. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think just giving Ebay a fictitious name is illegal in any way.

jojo2012 07-30-2016 08:00 PM

Re: Received a Law sue certified mail today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 789489)
I've considered this many times but I seriously doubt this forum would still exist if stealth accounts are 100% illegal. Ebay and Paypal aren't financial institutions so there isn't any law saying you're required to give them factual info. Stealth becomes a crime when you apply someone else's tax ID to your stealth account, rather than getting your own. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think just giving Ebay a fictitious name is illegal in any way.

Of course im not a lawyer, and every state & even county's have different laws, but if you google these questions you'll find plenty of offical state laws,

Also, if you watch a lifelock infomercial, they mention similar things,
Personally, i now stealth in my name, Small variations
, but im paranoid like that.

phaz0rz 07-31-2016 07:26 AM

Re: Received a Law sue certified mail today
 
Whatever floats your boat, Jojo. What about DBA names and whatnot? Illegal too?

yankee 07-31-2016 11:03 AM

Re: Received a Law sue certified mail today
 
Just curious, who is going to arrest you and what for? Ebay or paypal?

MM78 07-31-2016 01:53 PM

Re: Received a Law sue certified mail today
 
The EBay Fuzz! Their going to come to your house and give you an MC999!

Hercules 07-31-2016 02:15 PM

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Wait a minute...

Hercules 07-31-2016 02:19 PM

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No more talk of this Yankee....bad for business but fun to think about!

write 08-11-2016 06:57 PM

Re: Received a Law sue certified mail today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Haidukken (Post 789114)
If things get serious, this might be helpful.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Q7KGx3gARQeS4/giphy.gif

LMAO !!! omg..
thanks !!!

jojo2012 08-12-2016 09:37 AM

Re: Received a Law sue certified mail today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 789644)
Whatever floats your boat, Jojo. What about DBA names and whatnot? Illegal too?

I get that its not a popular subject , but i wouldn't make it up, maybe i am parinoid, & i probably am but laws have quietly been updated these past few years with all the hacking, & problems with identy.

Have you ever wondered why some banks dont allow mis matched names? ,
here are just a few examples, in a couple states, im no lawyer but its pretty plain wording.

Code of Laws - Title 16 - Chapter 13 - Forgery, Larceny, Embezzlement, False Pretenses And Cheats

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/sta...es/943/III/201

Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine

jojo2012 08-12-2016 09:51 AM

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And of course im refering to the op's issue, if you are just a person selling garage sale junk you'll not likely have an issue, but if dhl seizures are your problem & there is a knock on your door, trust me, your computer & the names in it will be used against you.

GhostOfAmazon 08-20-2016 02:43 AM

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Of all the phake things you could sell.......CAR PARTS? Really? Are you retarded? Or just plain evil? If you're going to sell phake stuff, AT LEAST make it something trite.....if someones phake axle breaks on the interstate and it causes a wreck, that's on YOU. And if it were to come down to it, and there was an investigation into the cause, and they discovered it was due to a faulty phake part, you'd have MUCH bigger problems than a lawsuit.

You really screwed the pooch.

Hercules 08-20-2016 09:06 AM

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dealer price: 600.00 China price 100.00 sale price: 400.00 American Greedx

GhostOfAmazon 08-20-2016 09:41 AM

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I get the logic behind selling phakes-----you don't have to have tax id info, don't have to have a legit business, no dealing with huge minimum quantities, easy, cheap, fast, convenient....I get THAT. What I don't get is product choice......CAR PARTS. Sell some DVD's or something.....at least if they mess up, no one gets hurt.

I'm not going to say "Don't sell phakes". I'm not your middle school D.A.R.E. counselor. But if you're going to do drugs, do weed, don't do meth.

Play 08-20-2016 09:48 AM

Re: Received a Law sue certified mail today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon (Post 794023)
I get the logic behind selling phakes-----you don't have to have tax id info, don't have to have a legit business, no dealing with huge minimum quantities, easy, cheap, fast, convenient....I get THAT. What I don't get is product choice......CAR PARTS. Sell some DVD's or something.....at least if they mess up, no one gets hurt.

:thumb: Couldn't agree more. If your going to take the risk (and consequences thereafter), at least ensure nobody else is at risk along the way.

fox20c 08-24-2016 01:56 PM

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What I learned on Aspkin today:

Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon (Post 794023)
But if you're going to do drugs, do weed, don't do meth.


GhostOfAmazon 08-24-2016 03:02 PM

Re: Received a Law sue certified mail today
 
Hey, it's good advice! :pound:

newjerseymax 08-24-2016 03:59 PM

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The guy at the repair shop gave us access to where they get 'Fender' for example, as this is what we needed. It was $40 for whole fender and everywhere else it was $400...

If the shops are using them then chances are they are on many cars already. Although a small fender I cant see that as a big problem.

But yea I could make a killing just using this access, but would fear the risk. Unless they know what they are getting....

bluegrass1 08-24-2016 11:56 PM

Re: Received a Law sue certified mail today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by newjerseymax (Post 795095)
The guy at the repair shop gave us access to where they get 'Fender' for example, as this is what we needed. It was $40 for whole fender and everywhere else it was $400...

If the shops are using them then chances are they are on many cars already. Although a small fender I cant see that as a big problem.

But yea I could make a killing just using this access, but would fear the risk. Unless they know what they are getting....

Better than knock off takata airbags lol :pound::pound:

MM78 08-25-2016 12:55 AM

Re: Received a Law sue certified mail today
 
My brother in law has an auto-glass repair shop and you be surprised how much profit there is, the glass is imported from China and sold for huge profits. Auto part also has massive profitability.

phaz0rz 08-25-2016 06:49 AM

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Yeah, I know that's the truth. I live in a tiny town (literally 9150 people at last census) and there are 6 auto parts stores, and they're all thriving.

planes 09-06-2016 10:03 AM

Re: Received a Law sue certified mail today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jojo2012 (Post 792182)
And of course im referring to the op's issue, if you are just a person selling garage sale junk you'll not likely have an issue, but if dhl seizures are your problem & there is a knock on your door, trust me, your computer & the names in it will be used against you.

It's normally not a crime to do business under an alias unless fraud or intent of fraud is shown. When I looked at the South Carolina law, there was always attached a portion that stated some fraud action was required.

I can call myself Bubble Gum and as long as I don't commit fraud and give my real name to the authorities when asked, I'm good.

It always comes down to fraud and theft. AS long as someone doesn't do any of those things, they should be fine.


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