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myrong 03-25-2017 12:44 PM

Account purchased here MC113
 
Always logged into account email from windows user account and stealth iP
Tracked all IPs in excel file
Sold my used personal goods- 8k in 6 weeks
No cases, no bad feedback, tracking numbers UPS(From a different location), all messages answered.
Added items i was to sell to watch list before listing.
edit- I changed my number to a new one. A few days ago.

When asked the guy said discrepancies in my personal information.

This has put me off stealth completely, at any time an account can be banned?

Ive been running 3 accounts for 4 years until this one has been banned.

I couldn't add a bank to the paypal just now to withdraw the money. Now I have all that money I need locked away from me. I feel sick because they were my own items that I need to sell to raise funds.

Does MC113 also ban the paypal too?

Bunneh 03-25-2017 12:54 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Did you buy an account with no selling history and then sell £8000 in just over a month?
That is far to much, to fast on a new account.

When ebay ban a user, they NEVER tell you why it was banned. So not sure how they told you ''discrepancies in my personal information''

Is your paypal account limited to?

JamesNorth101 03-25-2017 12:56 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by myrong (Post 838145)
Sold my used personal goods- 8k in 6 weeks

If you sell £8k worth of items in 6 weeks then yes you are very likely to get banned.

I am amazed you managed to sell so much before the bank to be honest.

Play 03-25-2017 12:57 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Firstly - its wise to speak to the seller you purchased from to see if theres anything they can do to assist you.

Quote:

Sold my used personal goods- 8k in 6 weeks
That to me sounds like a red flag right there. You shouldn't (IMO) be selling more than around £500 in the first month - then build from there.

Quote:

This has put me off stealth completely, at any time an account can be banned?
If you raise flags like the way you did, even genuine accounts can get selling priviledges removed.

Quote:

I couldn't add a bank to the paypal just now to withdraw the money. Now I have all that money I need locked away from me. I feel sick because they were my own items that I need to sell to raise funds.
You should of been withdrawing money on a weekly basis from the start. This is part of the nurturing process. Example, Week 1, Sell £100, withdraw £50. Leave remamining balance, and so forth...

Quote:

Does MC113 also ban the paypal too?
eBay and PayPal suspensions can often happen in sync.

Moral of the story - Stealth is not just about using a new account and keeping it unlinked from others. But its also about how to *sustain* your accounts.

myrong 03-25-2017 01:02 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
So what if someone has a business and they want to liquidate stock, so go on eBay to sell it.

They'll also be suspended and have their money taken?

What gives them the right? Shouldnt they say, you shouldn't be selling this amount for 4 months if you do you'll be banned.

They kept increasing the limits of the account every week like they were encouraging it.

I thought selling used personal things of the same type would not cause a problem.

What a farce when automation goes wrong. And how does paypal have the right to follow what eBay do and keep someones money. Didn't they tell the lawmakers they've split. A joke.

myrong 03-25-2017 01:04 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bunneh (Post 838149)
Did you buy an account with no selling history and then sell £8000 in just over a month?
That is far to much, to fast on a new account.

When ebay ban a user, they NEVER tell you why it was banned. So not sure how they told you ''discrepancies in my personal information''

Is your paypal account limited to?

I sold two items worth 3.5k in the past two weeks. The first 5 weeks I sold books and CDs. That 8k is mainly 3 high value personal items I sold.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 838150)
If you sell £8k worth of items in 6 weeks then yes you are very likely to get banned.

I am amazed you managed to sell so much before the bank to be honest.

See above Ive sold about 10 items in total. Not hundreds of things. The valuable stuff was of antique nature and ive owned them for a long time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Play (Post 838151)
Firstly - its wise to speak to the seller you purchased from to see if theres anything they can do to assist you.



That to me sounds like a red flag right there. You shouldn't (IMO) be selling more than around £500 in the first month - then build from there.



If you raise flags like the way you did, even genuine accounts can get selling priviledges removed.



You should of been withdrawing money on a weekly basis from the start. This is part of the nurturing process. Example, Week 1, Sell £100, withdraw £50. Leave remamining balance, and so forth...


eBay and PayPal suspensions can often happen in sync.

Moral of the story - Stealth is not just about using a new account and keeping it unlinked from others. But its also about how to *sustain* your accounts.

Ive learned my lesson thanks for the info. but I was only interested in selling personal things, I wouldn't know what to sell on ebay to do stealth like some of you. I don't know if ill ever use eBay / paypal again to be honest. Too much power over the common man.

yankee 03-25-2017 01:05 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
High value items like that is very abnormal and almost always will cause a limitation.

Play 03-25-2017 01:06 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Your comments seem to infer that eBay and PayPal are moral and caring conglomerates. Their not. They bend all rules in their favour.

yankee 03-25-2017 01:07 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
ebay and paypal are private companies. They can do whatever they want. If they dont want you to sell, then you are not going to sell. If they feel you are a risk to them, then they have no legal reason not to limit you.

myrong 03-25-2017 01:09 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 838157)
ebay and paypal are private companies. They can do whatever they want. If they dont want you to sell, then you are not going to sell. If they feel you are a risk to them, then they have no legal reason not to limit you.

limit me all they want. Don't take my money and hold it to ransom without telling me whats going on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Play (Post 838156)
Your comments seem to infer that eBay and PayPal are moral and caring conglomerates. Their not. They bend all rules in their favour.

I do my business on amazon and i love seeing eBay squeal with their final value fee discounts. Now for a company to join amazon and further diminish ebays market share that'll be good.

You can probably tell how angry I am!

yankee 03-25-2017 01:11 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by myrong (Post 838159)
limit me all they want. Don't take my money and hold it to ransom without telling me whats going on.

It is nothing new. We are all here on this site because of this. What did you think changed? ALL credit card processors can hold your funds for 180 days because they sense a risk.

If they 180 days has gone by and you still can not add a bank account, then you usually can call in and have it added.

myrong 03-25-2017 01:14 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 838160)
It is nothing new. We are all here on this site because of this. What did you think changed? ALL credit card processors can hold your funds for 180 days because they sense a risk.

If they 180 days has gone by and you still can not add a bank account, then you usually can call in and have it added.

Will I at least get this money back or do they have some power to keep it?

I appreciate you all helping me here.

Also the fact that I couldn't add a bank means Its going down?

I sent over money to another stealth, couldn't give a . if it gets linked just need the money. Now they're not letting me upload docs that I did send that money over.

Bunneh 03-25-2017 01:15 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
what happens when you try add a bank to paypal?

Ebayorbust 03-25-2017 01:15 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Quote:

I couldn't add a bank to the paypal just now to withdraw the money. Now I have all that money I need locked away from me
Is the Paypal account actually limited?

You have only stated you could not add a bank account. That does not mean you are limited. There are loads of instances where people experience issues when adding a bank account.

Contact Paypal - add the bank - withdraw.

Play 03-25-2017 01:17 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by myrong (Post 838159)
I do my business on amazon and i love seeing eBay squeal with their final value fee discounts. Now for a company to join amazon and further diminish ebays market share that'll be good.

You can probably tell how angry I am!

Amazon are no saints either. They are as strict, and will do the same thing PayPal has done. But Amazon are strict in different ways.

myrong 03-25-2017 01:20 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bunneh (Post 838166)
what happens when you try add a bank to paypal?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebayorbust (Post 838167)
Is the Paypal account actually limited?

You have only stated you could not add a bank account. That does not mean you are limited. There are loads of instances where people experience issues when adding a bank account.

Contact Paypal - add the bank - withdraw.

Its limited now for unusual activity because I sent the money I had to another account 5k and they won't let me verify. I have bills to pay and I panicked.

We were unable to process your bank registration at this time error. On the classic site too.

So I send my money over to another stealth. Which was a mistake because their system has thrown up a 100 alarm bells.

Its still got a few grand in pending too from recent sales. 5k available 3 pending.

So now when I log in they want docs, then I go to upload docs and Im met with another sorry we cannot upload at this time.

So now doubt the eBay link has transferred to the paypal. Bay went down yesterday actually.

myrong 03-25-2017 01:21 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Play (Post 838169)
Amazon are no saints either. They are as strict, and will do the same thing PayPal has done. But Amazon are strict in different ways.

They're no saints but they're far more up front and competent then eBay and PP.

my account has gone down with amazon in the past, the difference is they are one company. So I clicked the help button on the side and worked it out with them within one hour.

yankee 03-25-2017 01:25 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by myrong (Post 838174)
So I clicked the help button on the side and worked it out with them within one hour.


exceedingly rare to have a dead amazon account and not be held for more than 90 days.

Bunneh 03-25-2017 01:29 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
so its not allowing you to add the documents to the resolution centre?

If so you going to have to call them.

myrong 03-25-2017 01:31 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bunneh (Post 838180)
so its not allowing you to add the documents to the resolution centre?

If so you going to have to call them.

No its not. What should I say when they ask why did you send that sum over to my other stealth? :doh:

Bunneh 03-25-2017 01:37 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
did you send it as a gift or services payment?

myrong 03-25-2017 01:42 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bunneh (Post 838184)
did you send it as a gift or services payment?

gift payment. Was thinking to say I've purchased something from him face to face.

Bunneh 03-25-2017 01:45 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
:faint: OMG!

No you cannot say that, you not allowed to avoid fees when selling items for profit. (Business use)

yankee 03-25-2017 01:47 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by myrong (Post 838187)
gift payment. Was thinking to say I've purchased something from him face to face.

Gift payments are bad unless they are actually a gift. It is circumventing paypal fees. This alone will cause a paypal limitation.

Maybe you can get them to release the funds but I would not expect the account to be reinstated.

myrong 03-25-2017 01:48 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bunneh (Post 838188)
:faint: OMG!

No you cannot say that, you not allowed to avoid fees when selling items for profit. (Business use)

what to do then? Family member or what?

Should I wait until tomorrow and see if i can upload it then?

myrong 03-25-2017 01:49 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 838189)
Gift payments are bad unless they are actually a gift. It is circumventing paypal fees. This alone will cause a paypal limitation.

Maybe you can get them to release the funds but I would not expect the account to be reinstated.

Couldn't care less about the account. All I want is my money. Dunno what to say gift to myself ;)

JamesNorth101 03-25-2017 01:55 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
You have really made a bit of a mess with all this.

You need to just slow down and take it a lot slower.

Give it a day, log back in tomorrow, see exactly what they are asking for and sent it over to them.

Its very likely that your going to have to wait 180 days to get any of the money out this account now as PayPal will see it as very high risk so if you have not posted all the items it may be worth refunding some people and not posting the items then reselling on another account (but slower)

myrong 03-25-2017 01:59 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 838192)
You have really made a bit of a mess with all this.

You need to just slow down and take it a lot slower.

Give it a day, log back in tomorrow, see exactly what they are asking for and sent it over to them.

Its very likely that your going to have to wait 180 days to get any of the money out this account now as PayPal will see it as very high risk so if you have not posted all the items it may be worth refunding some people and not posting the items then reselling on another account (but slower)

Yeh I know.

I can't even refund the buyers because I can't get past the upload docs page.

As long as I get the money then fine.

Doubtful Ill come back to eBay to be honest. They'll find a method to link the items ive sold to the ones ive got to sell, by images background or something else. Ive got a queue of items to sell and have already taken pics different items same background and item type. Don't have the time to take them again and id be too paranoid to use them. Couldn't afford to have any more money locked away.

yankee 03-25-2017 02:03 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
If pictures are your concern then simply clean them. You should be doing that anyways.

JamesNorth101 03-25-2017 02:09 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
So it sounds like they are asking to upload docs as they think your account has been hacked.

What you need to do is upload the docs and then wait for them to restore the account. It will take a few days for them to restore the account.

eBay isn't linking you. Your just selling way too much way too fast and they are limiting you. There is a big difference

myrong 03-25-2017 02:13 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 838196)
If pictures are your concern then simply clean them. You should be doing that anyways.

Don't know how to do that. These are new pictures only used on this account. I think you are talking about altering pic info but not sure.

myrong 03-25-2017 02:15 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 838200)
So it sounds like they are asking to upload docs as they think your account has been hacked.

What you need to do is upload the docs and then wait for them to restore the account. It will take a few days for them to restore the account.

eBay isn't linking you. Your just selling way too much way too fast and they are limiting you. There is a big difference

Well they lied to me saying my information is wrong then. I understand they don't tell the truth, shady XXXXXXX

If paypal let me upload the docs id be a lot more calm. But when they don't let me add a bank and then not letting me upload docs... its getting me fearing the worst.

Can they keep the money if they wanted to ? Or will I get it back 180 days if they do suspend it?

JamesNorth101 03-25-2017 02:18 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Its very rare for PayPal to keep the money

Your not being totally clear as to the issue with your PayPal account though. Are they actually letting you log into the account or when you log into the account are you being asked for ID?

yankee 03-25-2017 02:23 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by myrong (Post 838204)
Don't know how to do that. These are new pictures only used on this account. I think you are talking about altering pic info but not sure.

Only takes a few seconds to clean pictures. All pictures should be cleaned to make sure you are not linked by pics data.
Lots of options posted on this forum can be found in a search.

I use http://www.digitalconfidence.com/BatchPurifier.html pretty much all of the free tools will strip the data in a few seconds.

jakobrockz 03-25-2017 02:25 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Oh jeezzzz

MM78 03-25-2017 02:30 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jakobrockz (Post 838212)
Oh jeezzzz

LOL, what makes this funnier is that the OP isn't exactly new to this forum and yet acts like they just got here today.

myrong 03-25-2017 02:40 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 838214)
LOL, what makes this funnier is that the OP isn't exactly new to this forum and yet acts like they just got here today.

In terms of running the account I waited for weeks to list for browsing history, after a few weeks I listed books for less than 5 and got feedback. Its only in the last two weeks I listed 3 high value used items.

What I did at the end is stupid but I didn't care to save any accounts just wanted the money. Didn't know they've got a system in place for everything

ive been running 3 stealth accounts just fine for years

myrong 03-25-2017 02:41 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 838207)
Its very rare for PayPal to keep the money

Your not being totally clear as to the issue with your PayPal account though. Are they actually letting you log into the account or when you log into the account are you being asked for ID?

I can login then they say we've noticed unusual activity, they ask me for verify myself but then don't let me upload it. I cannot see my balance, wallet, activity or anything.

JamesNorth101 03-25-2017 02:45 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Why dont you screen shot exactly what page shows when you log into the account and post it here.

jakobrockz 03-25-2017 02:53 PM

Re: Account purchased here MC113
 
Listing a few books at low price then jumping to $3500 items wasn't going to end well - another lesson to learn for your future accounts and for any new user reading these threads


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