Stealth 2019

[blueuk]

Compared with 6-7 years ago when limitations could be overcome quite easily compared to now where paypal have outside agencies with access to electoral roll, credit files and authenticity checks on documents, stealth methods are only getting harder.

What are people doing to get round that? I used to deliberately increase sales to initiate a limitation to get it out the way. I think the only way now is to attempt to stay under the radar with multiple accounts and keep turnover low and consistent.

That be about correct?

There seems to be a rumour going around that uk stealth is getting impossible, I've read numerous threads and had multiple people message me about it, and its simply not true. If you sell legit items then nothing has changed in the context of overcoming limitations.

Also, in terms of 'documents and limitations' so many of the people that post the doom and gloom literally will have something like 2 accounts closed, then proclaim that it's now impossible to overcome limitations.

That's no sample size to be making these generalisations and sweeping statements.

[JamesNorth101]

I’m not seeing a massive change.... limitations have always happened and always will happen and there is usually a spike this time of year. Nothing different to every other year

[phaz0rz]

[SaiJin]

Regardless whether it's an original or stealth account, there'll always be limitations eventually.

They'll always ask for seomthing.

And when there's a new problem, there'll always be a new solution. That's why this forum is filled with a lot of experts

[dan_ebay]

Originally Posted by just_smile

Also, in terms of 'documents and limitations' so many of the people that post the doom and gloom literally will have something like 2 accounts closed, then proclaim that it's now impossible to overcome limitations.

That's no sample size to be making these generalisations and sweeping statements.

There's a big enough sample size to show that they often keep the money even after 180 days when accounts are banned, that shows something clearly changed in that regard.

Not surprising that the account sellers say it's not any harder though lol.

[JamesNorth101]

Generally only if you have been selling some dodger stuff

If you haven’t then it’s usually pretty easy to withdraw after 180 days

Originally Posted by dan_ebay

There's a big enough sample size to show that they often keep the money even after 180 days when accounts are banned, that shows something clearly changed in that regard.

Not surprising that the account sellers say it's not any harder though lol.

It's been that way for 3/4 years... That's nothing new and it's not what the op asked about.

Its not any harder in the regard the op has asked about.

[dan_ebay]

Originally Posted by just_smile

It's been that way for 3/4 years... That's nothing new and it's not what the op asked about.

Its not any harder in the regard the op has asked about.

More like 2 years. He brought up how paypal can verify account details etc so it is related.

Stealth definitely got harder in the last couple of years, I used to be able to buy new accounts on here and hit the EU receiving limit within a week and had hardly any get banned. Not anymore.

[JamesNorth101]

Things change all the time

Getting the EU limits removed isn’t much harder, but accounts do need to be built up slower now

Stealth is undoubtedly harder in lots of ways, but its certainly not impossible. Its still easy compared to say Amazon.

If you create an account, start selling low risk items slowly, hit the Eu limits within 2-3 months and send in good quality info, there's a VERY high percentage you will be fine.

Unfortunately the vast majority of users here do sell high risk items and don't have any patience to grow an account.

[dan_ebay]

Originally Posted by just_smile

Stealth is undoubtedly harder in lots of ways, but its certainly not impossible. Its still easy compared to say Amazon.

If you create an account, start selling low risk items slowly, hit the Eu limits within 2-3 months and send in good quality info, there's a VERY high percentage you will be fine.

Unfortunately the vast majority of users here do sell high risk items and don't have any patience to grow an account.

Well that's what OP (and me) said, it's harder not impossible.

There comes a point where stealth isn't worth it, I'd rather not have to worry about dozens of different accounts, bank accounts, 'creative' IDs and Paypal holding 1000s of pounds of my money indefinitely.

Originally Posted by dan_ebay

Well that's what OP (and me) said, it's harder not impossible.

There comes a point where stealth isn't worth it, I'd rather not have to worry about dozens of different accounts, bank accounts, 'creative' IDs and Paypal holding 1000s of pounds of my money indefinitely.

True, but what you have just said, has always been the case for stealth. To succeed you've always needed to have multiple banks, multiple accounts etc. As mentioned before the paypal holding funds is not even knew anymore.

electoral roll, credit files and authenticity checks on documents, stealth methods are only getting harder.

What are people doing to get round that?

My original posts (which I think you may have taken exception to) was to do with these specific points by the OP.

[dan_ebay]

Originally Posted by just_smile

True, but what you have just said, has always been the case for stealth. To succeed you've always needed to have multiple banks, multiple accounts etc. As mentioned before the paypal holding funds is not even knew anymore.







My original posts (which I think you may have taken exception to) was to do with these specific points by the OP.

Yes but it's harder now so a lot more banks etc are needed. I used to just send the money straight from my paypal to a supplier aswell.

I just use friends/family details now and have a legit account that I know is much safer. Rather have my mum maybe one day getting banned and not being able to buy a cheap usb charger than paypal having 1000s of my money and needed to have dozens of banks lol.

[JHerald]

Originally Posted by dan_ebay

Yes but it's harder now so a lot more banks etc are needed. I used to just send the money straight from my paypal to a supplier aswell.

I just use friends/family details now and have a legit account that I know is much safer. Rather have my mum maybe one day getting banned and not being able to buy a cheap usb charger than paypal having 1000s of my money and needed to have dozens of banks lol.

Does your mum know that you are using her account? It is fraud if you use it without her knowledge. Does she know there is a chance that account will be limited?

And that risk being exceptionally high if you transfer from a stealth to her account for withdrawal, as they have this tactic sussed already, from the pattern of transfers from one to the other. If you are simply using her account to receive sales money directly then whenever her account is FUBAR'd you'll be back to stealth again and she won't be able to sell or buy anything in the future under her name and address with PayPal.

[dan_ebay]

Originally Posted by JHerald

Does your mum know that you are using her account? It is fraud if you use it without her knowledge. Does she know there is a chance that account will be limited?

And that risk being exceptionally high if you transfer from a stealth to her account for withdrawal, as they have this tactic sussed already, from the pattern of transfers from one to the other. If you are simply using her account to receive sales money directly then whenever her account is FUBAR'd you'll be back to stealth again and she won't be able to sell or buy anything in the future under her name and address with PayPal.

Ofcourse she knows lol. I don't use any stealth accounts anymore.

Yeah I addresses that in my post? Pretty unlikely it will get banned but if it does it's not really a big deal.

[koniks]

Did you guys received message from ebay eu or ebay.de saying about VAT? Someone please help me understand.. thanks

[mao]

Originally Posted by just_smile

There seems to be a rumour going around that uk stealth is getting impossible, I've read numerous threads and had multiple people message me about it, and its simply not true. If you sell legit items then nothing has changed in the context of overcoming limitations.

this sums up the whole thing pretty much, people are running into problems for selling "dodgy" items. Ive made stealths still and selling legit items with no hassles. All down to how its made.