Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores?

[Ill Be Back]

Okay so I haven't posted or been up to date with this forum for at least a good year or two. This may be old news and has been known on here for years or it could be something new. It happened to me for the first time today.

4 weeks ago one of my stronger eBay stores (Over 10,000 feedback) had some listings taken down and was given a temporary restriction for 30 days, it states I wasn't allowed to revise or list new items until after the 30 days.

I've seen this message before so I leave the store alone and don't list anything else. However curiousity got the better of me and 2 weeks later I decided to try and revise one of my listings that had run out. To my surprise it worked. Now I have tried to do this in the past only to be greeted with the "your account is restricted" message.

I haven't tried this with a low feedback store so I'm not sure if it's the same story.

So does anyone know why I was able to list on more despite doing this way before the 30 days? Has eBay become more lenient? I'm not complaining, I just hope it becomes easier for us all.

[slokor]

NO theyre not more lenient.
Might be a glitch. Might be that they didn't apply the restriction properly. Might be anything.
BUT - what I DO know for certain is that if they find out you broke the regulations again and while on a restriction period no less - you will lose the account.
Is it realy worth it when you say you have other accounts to pick up the slack?

[james_112233]

Is that a stealth account with over 10k feedback ?

[Ill Be Back]

Originally Posted by slokor

NO theyre not more lenient.
Might be a glitch. Might be that they didn't apply the restriction properly. Might be anything.
BUT - what I DO know for certain is that if they find out you broke the regulations again and while on a restriction period no less - you will lose the account.
Is it realy worth it when you say you have other accounts to pick up the slack?

I see, that's got me slightly more worried but can't I just put it down to negligence if they close my account? Surely it's not my fault if I am able to relist an item when it should be locked off.

I hear stories of reputable stores being able to take more hits like this and surviving when compared to smaller stores.

Has anyone else experienced the same thing I have? I understand glitches happen but is there a slight chance that eBay is somehow loosening that grip as Amazon is slowly taking over?

[Ill Be Back]

Originally Posted by james_112233

Is that a stealth account with over 10k feedback ?

That's correct yes. Over 10k feedback, not top rated.

[slokor]

Originally Posted by Ill Be Back

I see, that's got me slightly more worried but can't I just put it down to negligence if they close my account? Surely it's not my fault if I am able to relist an item when it should be locked off.

I hear stories of reputable stores being able to take more hits like this and surviving when compared to smaller stores.

Has anyone else experienced the same thing I have? I understand glitches happen but is there a slight chance that eBay is somehow loosening that grip as Amazon is slowly taking over?

Are you trying to convince me? or yourself?
Cause its ebay that need convincing and unfortunately they don't take kindly to people breaking their rules and no amount of convincing works in most cases.
Stop guessing and stop taking chances - unless you have no issues with losing the account.

[Ill Be Back]

Originally Posted by slokor

Are you trying to convince me? or yourself?
Cause its ebay that need convincing and unfortunately they don't take kindly to people breaking their rules and no amount of convincing works in most cases.
Stop guessing and stop taking chances - unless you have no issues with losing the account.

Originally Posted by slokor

Are you trying to convince me? or yourself?
Cause its ebay that need convincing and unfortunately they don't take kindly to people breaking their rules and no amount of convincing works in most cases.
Stop guessing and stop taking chances - unless you have no issues with losing the account.

I completely understand and I think that taking risks when it comes to stealthing is dangerous. I know that we are all trying to run a tight ship here but I have done some unconventional things. I had a listing taken off years ago, my product featured a celebrities name in the listing title. I contacted eBay via live chat and asked what if I gave it as a free item along with something else. They told me that it was a great business idea and allowed me to list it back on!

Also calling up to request more listings is advised against on here. However I have done this to a few of my stores and they are still live and kicking till this day. I am not recommending any of this but giving you some of my practices which I risked myself to say that it can be done.

Again I haven't been on this forum in a long time. I was merely seeing if anyone else knew of this and you have told me it was a glitch perhaps. I will chalk it down to that and consider myself either stupid or lucky.

[james_112233]

How many years old is your stealth account with 10k fb ?

I agree about being able to get away with certain things. Ebay do let things slide with big / trusted sellers. Depends on the offense though.

[Ill Be Back]

Originally Posted by james_112233

How many years old is your stealth account with 10k fb ?

I agree about being able to get away with certain things. Ebay do let things slide with big / trusted sellers. Depends on the offense though.

The store is 5 years old and throughout the years it has been through several offenses. I agree that eBay let's things slide. There are much bigger stores than mine that I'm sure are taking huge hits and come back swinging. I will note this incident down as a glitch but if something like this ever happens again to any of my other stores then there's definitely something up.

[yankee]

On my big accounts, any notice or restriction is just that, a notice. I can always still list, revise etc..... Sloker is wrong on this one.

[Ill Be Back]

Originally Posted by yankee

On my big accounts, any notice or restriction is just that, a notice. I can always still list, revise etc..... Sloker is wrong on this one.

Thank you for your input. Have you tried to relist on your smaller accounts after a similar message?

Clearly it sounds like the restriction notice is for eBay to cover their own back whilst letting the big sellers continue to sell.

How long have you been aware of this exploit as I have just figured this out.

Thanks

[degsey69]

I have had the same happen to me when a 30 day restriction was imposed, it still let me do new listings. Usually when you are under restriction you can edit existing listings or close them.

As a matter of interest a 30 day restriction usually is implemented after getting a 7 and then a 14 day one and you keep getting vero, copyright, trademark complaints.

[Ill Be Back]

Originally Posted by degsey69

I have had the same happen to me when a 30 day restriction was imposed, it still let me do new listings. Usually when you are under restriction you can edit existing listings or close them.

As a matter of interest a 30 day restriction usually is implemented after getting a 7 and then a 14 day one and you keep getting vero, copyright, trademark complaints.

Thank you. So is it normal that you are able to relist and revise items during the restriction period? The message from eBay does state that you are unable to revise or relist which is true for my smaller stores.

I haven't had a vero complaint for my big store for a long while now and thought it would have been reset.

[yankee]

Originally Posted by Ill Be Back

Thank you for your input. Have you tried to relist on your smaller accounts after a similar message?

Clearly it sounds like the restriction notice is for eBay to cover their own back whilst letting the big sellers continue to sell.

How long have you been aware of this exploit as I have just figured this out.

Thanks

It has been happening for at least a decade.

If you keep on getting the warning, eventually you wont be able to list new items but you can still edit listings. The last account I pressed with it was with vero warnings 38 notices of 30 day temporary suspensions until I was not able to list new items. That was two years ago.

[ebaystealth1974]

Originally Posted by james_112233

How many years old is your stealth account with 10k fb ?

I agree about being able to get away with certain things. Ebay do let things slide with big / trusted sellers. Depends on the offense though.

Originally Posted by james_112233

Is that a stealth account with over 10k feedback ?

Why they hell are you so obsessed with a stealth account having 10k feedback? lol

Stealth, done right, has no end in sight.

[james_112233]

Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974

Why they hell are you so obsessed with a stealth account having 10k feedback? lol

Stealth, done right, has no end in sight.

Because it's only been 3-4 weeks since I was banned from ebay for life.

I am not convinced I can get back to the level I was via stealth.

[ebaystealth1974]

Originally Posted by james_112233

Because it's only been 3-4 weeks since I was banned from ebay for life.

I am not convinced I can get back to the level I was via stealth.

You can.

(depending on what kind of business you are running)

[yankee]

10k feedback is a piss-hole in the snow. A good stealth account selling a good in demand product can easily get several thousand feedback a month.

Stealth is no different than a real business account. Literally, it is exactly the same as a regular business account. I dont even consider them stealth. They are just accounts....

[ebaystealth1974]

Interesting phrase lol

[Ill Be Back]

Originally Posted by james_112233

Because it's only been 3-4 weeks since I was banned from ebay for life.

I am not convinced I can get back to the level I was via stealth.

As the other users have said 10k feedback isn't that high depending on what you sell. I will say that with some of my stores I called up to increase my listings. I've done this and have gained at least an extra 20,000 listings. I'm up to 80,000 listings now which is enough for me.

Also I'd like to add that I work from home. If I can reach this amount in a few years then I'm sure you can do it in much less.

[Ill Be Back]

Originally Posted by yankee

It has been happening for at least a decade.

If you keep on getting the warning, eventually you wont be able to list new items but you can still edit listings. The last account I pressed with it was with vero warnings 38 notices of 30 day temporary suspensions until I was not able to list new items. That was two years ago.

Thanks Yankee, at least a decade hey!! Do you have any ideas of why they allow these types of stores to get away with it? Also do the violations get reset after a long while. I mean getting a 30 day restriction surely means that I've pushed it by now.

[ebaystealth1974]

Originally Posted by Ill Be Back

I'm up to 80,000 listings now which is enough for me.

Ya reckon?! lol