| | | Pathos | 10-13-2019 04:06 AM | Re: Disassociating from an eBay account - advice needed! Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1040967)
Morning my pet troll, wow, you've got it bad.
Ironically if you're right about me your'e enabling me and I'm delighting in getting to you.
Pathetos, move on, it's not good for you to let me get you you like this.
:clap: :clap: :clap: | Question still stands:
As you are currently breaking the law by misrepresenting yourself to a financial entity, multiple times on multiple platforms I may add, have you gone to the Police and reported what you are doing? If so, as by your own advice, what was the outcome? You seem to still be writing on forums therefore nothing happened eh? Please tell. |
| Pathos | 10-13-2019 04:06 AM | Re: Disassociating from an eBay account - advice needed! Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1040969)
Nah, that's just your imagination getting to you, see how bad you've got it.
Not one single warning about the advice I give, not one. :en: | How many warnings have you had? Best to be honest about these things being that it would only take James a second to disclose. |
| Pathos | 10-13-2019 04:11 AM | Re: Disassociating from an eBay account - advice needed! Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1040972)
See my post above, you're so blinkered you cannot see it.
I have NEVER has a warning about the advice I give. Honesty on a forum like this.......you're a funny gal. | Interesting statement.
Questions still stand though as remain unanswered:
As you are currently breaking the law by misrepresenting yourself to a financial entity, multiple times on multiple platforms I may add, have you gone to the Police and reported what you are doing? If so, as by your own advice, what was the outcome? You seem to still be writing on forums therefore nothing happened eh? Please tell.
How many warnings have you had? |
| james_112233 | 10-13-2019 05:40 AM | Re: Disassociating from an eBay account - advice needed! @Pathos
Just reading all your logical posts made me feel a bit more calm to be honest. |
| Pathos | 10-13-2019 06:03 AM | Re: Disassociating from an eBay account - advice needed! Quote:
Originally Posted by james_112233
(Post 1040982)
@Pathos
Just reading all your logical posts made me feel a bit more calm to be honest. | We live in an era of fear, led by Tabloid newspapers and Channel 5 puesdo documentaries. We just have to apply a little intelligent rationale now and again to reground ourselves.
It's easy to get swept up in sensationalism as our Tinpal does. |
| Phoenix8 | 10-13-2019 05:08 PM | Re: Disassociating from an eBay account - advice needed! @pathos
Nice try Mikey. Did you really think I’d be dumb enough to not know it was you? You still underestimate me don’t you. I knew it was you the moment you first commented, the “trolling” comment was the first thing to give you away. It’s your signature insult and an obvious attempt to discredit Tinsoldier who was giving me advice against your blatant agenda. No surprise there really.
Your over concern for my ‘friend’ and enthusiasm for him keeping my account was the next giveaway. Your language, spelling, use of the words such “paranoia” and “over reacting”.. all the exact things you said to me in your last email and gaslighting at its very best. Your previous posts - all you. From South London too no? I’ve screenshot the lot as I know you like the edit function. Honestly, unbelievable. You knew I was posting in the stealth forums for IMPARTIAL advice. I actually expected you to see the post, I knew you’d go looking but I didn’t think you’d sink this low. Next time you try to deceive and manipulate someone, maybe don’t quote word for word what you already said to me in your last email, which by the way you sent around the exact same time you first commented on here. It’s 100% transparent so don’t even try to contest it. As I’ve told you multiple times, I’m seeking the best course of action for me now, I’ll let you know how I’m going to proceed when I’ve decided so in the meantime, please get off my thread. I’d like comments from people who aren’t only interested in themselves. But you should know you’ve done yourself absolutely no favours whatsoever by pulling this stunt. Also, no one is dangerous on this thread except for you.
Sorry everyone, in case you missed it the thread has been derailed by the very person who is trying to get me to give him my account. This, is what I am dealing with and a prime example of just why I’m in this mess. |
| Phoenix8 | 10-13-2019 05:12 PM | Re: Disassociating from an eBay account - advice needed! Quote:
Originally Posted by james_112233
(Post 1040982)
@Pathos
Just reading all your logical posts made me feel a bit more calm to be honest. | You might want to read my latest update before you let him sway you. |
| Pathos | 10-14-2019 01:26 AM | Re: Disassociating from an eBay account - advice needed! Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix8
(Post 1041131)
@pathos
Nice try Mikey. Did you really think I’d be dumb enough to not know it was you? You still underestimate me don’t you. I knew it was you the moment you first commented, the “trolling” comment was the first thing to give you away. It’s your signature insult and an obvious attempt to discredit Tinsoldier who was giving me advice against your blatant agenda. No surprise there really.
Your over concern for my ‘friend’ and enthusiasm for him keeping my account was the next giveaway. Your language, spelling, use of the words such “paranoia” and “over reacting”.. all the exact things you said to me in your last email and gaslighting at its very best. Your previous posts - all you. From South London too no? I’ve screenshot the lot as I know you like the edit function. Honestly, unbelievable. You knew I was posting in the stealth forums for IMPARTIAL advice. I actually expected you to see the post, I knew you’d go looking but I didn’t think you’d sink this low. Next time you try to deceive and manipulate someone, maybe don’t quote word for word what you already said to me in your last email, which by the way you sent around the exact same time you first commented on here. It’s 100% transparent so don’t even try to contest it. As I’ve told you multiple times, I’m seeking the best course of action for me now, I’ll let you know how I’m going to proceed when I’ve decided so in the meantime, please get off my thread. I’d like comments from people who aren’t only interested in themselves. But you should know you’ve done yourself absolutely no favours whatsoever by pulling this stunt. Also, no one is dangerous on this thread except for you.
Sorry everyone, in case you missed it the thread has been derailed by the very person who is trying to get me to give him my account. This, is what I am dealing with and a prime example of just why I’m in this mess. |
This is a very odd post I must admit. I am not sure if the @ symbol was intended for me or not? Or are you a Tinsoldier 'secondary' account? Suspicious.
As I think we established, my advice to you was to make one of two choices, give your friend the account or don't. Which is similar to what others have said. No one here can make your decision for you and in all fairness, no one here actually cares a whole deal. Most of us are here because we have lost eBay accounts and have used the methodology that Aspkin developed, which we studied by purchasing his Stealth book - and a lot of trial and error by ourselves over the years. This is primarily what the forum is about. It isn't really the place to air dirty washing or to deal with the benefits office.
In my defence, Tincan claimed, in his capacity as a criminal himself, he was able to jeopardise an investigation by seeing confidential and GDPR compliant documents from his 'daughters ex'. This is beyond ridiculous in my opinion. This combined with his many previous posts of inaccurate information will always bring a level of disbelief from myself, and no doubt others.
Essentially, you still need to make the decision for yourself, that much remains, my advice would be to do that and then it will no longer cause this level of anguish to you. |
| james_112233 | 10-14-2019 06:09 AM | Re: Disassociating from an eBay account - advice needed! Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix8
(Post 1041131)
@pathos
Nice try Mikey. Did you really think I’d be dumb enough to not know it was you? You still underestimate me don’t you. I knew it was you the moment you first commented, the “trolling” comment was the first thing to give you away. It’s your signature insult and an obvious attempt to discredit Tinsoldier who was giving me advice against your blatant agenda. No surprise there really.
Your over concern for my ‘friend’ and enthusiasm for him keeping my account was the next giveaway. Your language, spelling, use of the words such “paranoia” and “over reacting”.. all the exact things you said to me in your last email and gaslighting at its very best. Your previous posts - all you. From South London too no? I’ve screenshot the lot as I know you like the edit function. Honestly, unbelievable. You knew I was posting in the stealth forums for IMPARTIAL advice. I actually expected you to see the post, I knew you’d go looking but I didn’t think you’d sink this low. Next time you try to deceive and manipulate someone, maybe don’t quote word for word what you already said to me in your last email, which by the way you sent around the exact same time you first commented on here. It’s 100% transparent so don’t even try to contest it. As I’ve told you multiple times, I’m seeking the best course of action for me now, I’ll let you know how I’m going to proceed when I’ve decided so in the meantime, please get off my thread. I’d like comments from people who aren’t only interested in themselves. But you should know you’ve done yourself absolutely no favours whatsoever by pulling this stunt. Also, no one is dangerous on this thread except for you.
Sorry everyone, in case you missed it the thread has been derailed by the very person who is trying to get me to give him my account. This, is what I am dealing with and a prime example of just why I’m in this mess. | Genuinely confused right now. |
Re: Disassociating from an eBay account - advice needed! Best not to worry about the confusion, if any |
Re: Disassociating from an eBay account - advice needed! Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix8
(Post 1040293)
4. As the transactions have all been made through my own PayPal (a significant amount over the last 3 years or so but has mainly been used for repurchasing stock - I have not made any money from this business) would I be better off just closing down my PayPal account completely? | Your PayPal is the elephant in the room, given it has your financials attached. That's what can cause implications for you that go beyond the realms of simply getting suspended on eBay which there are workarounds for.
Closing your PayPal is the best thing in this case. |
| Phoenix8 | 10-16-2019 04:28 AM | Re: Disassociating from an eBay account - advice needed! Quote:
Originally Posted by Play
(Post 1041677)
Your PayPal is the elephant in the room, given it has your financials attached. That's what can cause implications for you that go beyond the realms of simply getting suspended on eBay which there are workarounds for.
Closing your PayPal is the best thing in this case. | Thanks, yes this is the main concern for me but I wasn’t sure if closed PayPal accounts still get investigated, or if closing it may even prompt a ‘check’. I don’t particularly want to get suspended from eBay either it’s just more hassle I could do without and especially not for the sake of someone who clearly couldn’t care less about me. I am seeking legal advice also, but it’s a difficult one as none of it is particularly legal.
If I thought closing it all down would be the end of it, that’s 100% what I would do. If letting him have it relinquishes me of any involvement, I’d do that. Not sure that’s possible though given the whole thing has been running through my PayPal for 3.5 years. He knows there is a chance the business account may get shut down if he takes ownership of it but he hasn’t acknowledged the fact that I may be penalised by eBay and get any future accounts banned (this is what I have read elsewhere) I’d like to avoid any comeback at all ideally as I’m basically just collateral damage. |
| Phoenix8 | 10-16-2019 07:46 AM | Re: Disassociating from an eBay account - advice needed! Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1041725)
For someone who is in the position you say you're in then I'm afraid your worries about future ebay accounts simple doesn't add up, why on earth would you even be thinking about that?
| The eBay accounts are of secondary importance here as I said because I’m not able to do much with them currently, but I do buy things on there so I don’t want to lose my buying account. Without going into too much detail, I have been ill for a long time but hoping to regain a level of health to be able to sell a little bit in the future as going out to work a full time job may never be on the cards. So it’s really just safeguarding that. I don’t see why I should get banned or suspended because someone else is prepared to risk it. So that’s the reason for that. I realise you’re suspicious of this thread and I’m not surprised to be quite honest, I fully realise how dodgy it sounds. Just imagine being involved! Im not here for the same reasons as everyone else I’m actually trying to avoid getting banned and going down the stealth route ideally but mostly, as I’ve explained, to dissolve any dealings with the other person due to legalities as we’re on very different pages.
I am getting legal advice yes, the rules around eBay and PayPal however are different territory so I’m trying to get a full picture so I can make an educated and informed decision.
I appreciate your feedback. |
Re: Disassociating from an eBay account - advice needed! Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix8
(Post 1041704)
Thanks, yes this is the main concern for me but I wasn’t sure if closed PayPal accounts still get investigated, or if closing it may even prompt a ‘check’. I don’t particularly want to get suspended from eBay either it’s just more hassle I could do without and especially not for the sake of someone who clearly couldn’t care less about me. I am seeking legal advice also, but it’s a difficult one as none of it is particularly legal.
If I thought closing it all down would be the end of it, that’s 100% what I would do. If letting him have it relinquishes me of any involvement, I’d do that. Not sure that’s possible though given the whole thing has been running through my PayPal for 3.5 years. He knows there is a chance the business account may get shut down if he takes ownership of it but he hasn’t acknowledged the fact that I may be penalised by eBay and get any future accounts banned (this is what I have read elsewhere) I’d like to avoid any comeback at all ideally as I’m basically just collateral damage. | If you dont want hassle later with regards to eBay, then most definitely take that back too. Unless they are willing to perhaps give you a share of their business, at which point you could work something out together where there is incentive for you to allow them to use your account.
If the business is running smooth, receiving 10 to 20% of profits each months doing nothing but letting someone use your eBay account isn't a bad deal. If they don't agree to that, then clearly they don't care for you, just take the accounts back. |
| Pathos | 10-16-2019 11:42 AM | Re: Disassociating from an eBay account - advice needed! I really don't get it.
You said you have a new surname? If you do not want these accounts to be used or continued, just close your PayPal and eBay and start new accounts under your new name. Forget the old ones existed and then you have what you want?
What is all this 'investigated' concern, are you being investigated? Is that why you are really here?
Do you have access to these accounts?
You can ALWAYS buy on eBay, they very rarely stop that.
You can close any account you wish, there is even a 'close' function in PayPal and eBay.
When you start your new accounts they will be 'soft linked' within the eBay realm - the same way a family member would be who uses the same network/computer to log in would be, but thats no different than people in shared houses like at university. (Unless you change IP addresses and format your computer etc, basic Stealth principals)
Just close your accounts and start afresh or do as Play says above, take the income. If its been running for three years like you say, it's probably a successful operation.
For once Tincan is right, you can't officially 'transfer' your PayPal I dont think anyone has suggested that, but you could let it continue and take a profit and still open a further one in your new name for your own personal use. If you don't want the vague liabilities of doing that because of your 'investigation' issue, then close them down and begin new accounts and start using them to build up history.
I think everyone has now said just to close them. |
| Pathos | 10-16-2019 11:44 AM | Re: Disassociating from an eBay account - advice needed! Quote:
Originally Posted by Play
(Post 1041746)
If you dont want hassle later with regards to eBay, then most definitely take that back too. Unless they are willing to perhaps give you a share of their business, at which point you could work something out together where there is incentive for you to allow them to use your account.
If the business is running smooth, receiving 10 to 20% of profits each months doing nothing but letting someone use your eBay account isn't a bad deal. If they don't agree to that, then clearly they don't care for you, just take the accounts back. | I'll give you one of my eBay accounts for 20% of your profits Play! |
| Phoenix8 | 10-16-2019 12:00 PM | Re: Disassociating from an eBay account - advice needed! Quote:
Originally Posted by Pathos
(Post 1041771)
I really don't get it.
You said you have a new surname? If you do not want these accounts to be used or continued, just close your PayPal and eBay and start new accounts under your new name. Forget the old ones existed and then you have what you want?
What is all this 'investigated' concern, are you being investigated? Is that why you are really here?
Do you have access to these accounts?
You can ALWAYS buy on eBay, they very rarely stop that.
You can close any account you wish, there is even a 'close' function in PayPal and eBay.
When you start your new accounts they will be 'soft linked' within the eBay realm - the same way a family member would be who uses the same network/computer to log in would be, but thats no different than people in shared houses like at university. (Unless you change IP addresses and format your computer etc, basic Stealth principals)
Just close your accounts and start afresh or do as Play says above, take the income. If its been running for three years like you say, it's probably a successful operation.
For once Tincan is right, you can't officially 'transfer' your PayPal I dont think anyone has suggested that, but you could let it continue and take a profit and still open a further one in your new name for your own personal use. If you don't want the vague liabilities of doing that because of your 'investigation' issue, then close them down and begin new accounts and start using them to build up history.
I think everyone has now said just to close them. | Mikey can you just either whatsapp me or ring me if you wish to discuss this? I think it’s already been firmly established this is you, I did wonder if you’d be able to help yourself in light of the recent advice. Stop gaslighting me, it’s the worst form of manipulation and you are exposing yourself to all on here. The mind games are exactly why I’m being thorough and trying to cover my options. At least have the balls to admit it’s you.
You know exactly why I wouldn’t go into business with you, aside from the fact I am claiming benefits, so are you. Its also the many other things you are involved in. You’re a liability and you lie through your teeth - as you are proving right now. If you really insist on catfishing me here I can go into detail with all the facts? Shall we do that? Because if you keep this up I’m happy to publicly talk about the lot. Now stop being a jerk, man up and speak to me directly. You’re not as clever as you think you are. I was actually going to contact you today to sort this BS out once and for all but I keep forgetting I’m not dealing with a normal person. Sorry to be so blunt but it seems you can’t take a subtle hint. |
Re: Disassociating from an eBay account - advice needed! Quote:
Originally Posted by Pathos
(Post 1041773)
I'll give you one of my eBay accounts for 20% of your profits Play! | Ha ha, If only I was in short supply of accounts. ;) |
| Phoenix8 | 10-16-2019 01:13 PM | Re: Disassociating from an eBay account - advice needed! Quote:
Originally Posted by Play
(Post 1041746)
If you dont want hassle later with regards to eBay, then most definitely take that back too. Unless they are willing to perhaps give you a share of their business, at which point you could work something out together where there is incentive for you to allow them to use your account.
If the business is running smooth, receiving 10 to 20% of profits each months doing nothing but letting someone use your eBay account isn't a bad deal. If they don't agree to that, then clearly they don't care for you, just take the accounts back. | I don’t want anything to do with him he can’t be trusted at all. I don’t know if you’ve read the thread but Pathos here is the person I’m talking about. He’s trying to manipulate the **** out of me and thinks no one has noticed. |
| Pathos | 10-16-2019 01:17 PM | Re: Disassociating from an eBay account - advice needed! Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix8
(Post 1041776)
Mikey can you just either whatsapp me or ring me if you wish to discuss this? I think it’s already been firmly established this is you, I did wonder if you’d be able to help yourself in light of the recent advice. Stop gaslighting me, it’s the worst form of manipulation and you are exposing yourself to all on here. The mind games are exactly why I’m being thorough and trying to cover my options. At least have the balls to admit it’s you.
You know exactly why I wouldn’t go into business with you, aside from the fact I am claiming benefits, so are you. Its also the many other things you are involved in. You’re a liability and you lie through your teeth - as you are proving right now. If you really insist on catfishing me here I can go into detail with all the facts? Shall we do that? Because if you keep this up I’m happy to publicly talk about the lot. Now stop being a jerk, man up and speak to me directly. You’re not as clever as you think you are. I was actually going to contact you today to sort this BS out once and for all but I keep forgetting I’m not dealing with a normal person. Sorry to be so blunt but it seems you can’t take a subtle hint. | Please read the forum AUP; https://www.aspkin.com/forums/faq.php | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:20 PM. | |
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