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Hi everyone.

Please let me know if this is a good strategy when it comes to IP.

If I get a new broadband connection from a big main stream service provider and get multiple Static IPs from them and then assign each Static IP to a
different Virtual Machines.

Is this even possible, I mean can we assign different static IPs to different virtual machines under a single Internet Connection ?

Would it be the safest method to avoid IP linkage ?

Please advise.

Thanks in advance
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Hi everyone.

Please let me know if this is a good strategy when it comes to IP.

If I get a new broadband connection from a big main stream service provider and get multiple Static IPs from them and then assign each Static IP to a
different Virtual Machines.

Is this even possible, I mean can we assign different static IPs to different virtual machines under a single Internet Connection ?

Would it be the safest method to avoid IP linkage ?

Please advise.

Thanks in advance
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Hi everyone.

Please let me know if this is a good strategy when it comes to IP.

If I get a new broadband connection from a big main stream service provider and get multiple Static IPs from them and then assign each Static IP to a
different Virtual Machines.

Is this even possible, I mean can we assign different static IPs to different virtual machines under a single Internet Connection ?

Would it be the safest method to avoid IP linkage ?

Please advise.

Thanks in advance
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Hi everyone.

Please let me know if this is a good strategy when it comes to IP.

If I get a new broadband connection from a big main stream service provider and get multiple Static IPs from them and then assign each Static IP to a
different Virtual Machines.

Is this even possible, I mean can we assign different static IPs to different virtual machines under a single Internet Connection ?

Would it be the safest method to avoid IP linkage ?

Please advise.

Thanks in advance
Separate NiC & Modem would be required for each and every IP to achieve what you are asking but I suppose its possible depending on the VM software in use to assign a separate NiC to each one(assuming you have that many installed on your PC, there-go a separate IP for each)

Yeah it would stop any and all possible Hardware link-age as long as the details for each and every system was completely different.
(in my opinion)
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Separate NiC & Modem would be required for each and every IP to achieve what you are asking but I suppose its possible depending on the VM software in use to assign a separate NiC to each one(assuming you have that many installed on your PC, there-go a separate IP for each)

Yeah it would stop any and all possible Hardware link-age as long as the details for each and every system was completely different.
(in my opinion)
So it's not possible as I was thinking to do it on laptop and won't be able to install separate NIC of Modems ?

Is there any other safe way to run multiple stealths on different Virtual Machines ? My concern is different IP every time as it's bit sketchy for ebay and PayPal
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The post above is correct.
You'd have to find out if the company supplying you will allow concurrent bi-directional communication on all the IPs at the same time and if the hardware they supply supports that.
If it doesn't, you have to manually switch IP addresses every time. Not a problem if you dedicate time to your router where you can change IP every time you need to.

Your motherboard may not have that many ports to accommodate several Lan cards so you might have to make do with on card and switch IPs with every VM.

Setting up everything to work on autopilot is entirely possible, but we may need to see your router/modem and some information about your motherboard and available PCI/PCIe slots.
By the way, what network is offering you Static IPs and how much does it cost?

Good luck.
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So it's not possible as I was thinking to do it on laptop and won't be able to install separate NIC of Modems ?

Is there any other safe way to run multiple stealths on different Virtual Machines ? My concern is different IP every time as it's bit sketchy for ebay and PayPal
Using a laptop the simplest solution to what your asking off the top of my head would be a USB HUB, then multiple tethered cheap 3g phones or 4g modem hotspots that support USB tether your preference.

Most modern window's PC's 7+ will see each one as a separate NiC driver, then manually assign each one to a separate VM.

Of course I dont know if anyone has ever tried this or would even be willing to as the cost of upkeep would be tremendous unless you had access to some kind of insider pricing much lower then the rest of the market.

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Using a laptop the simplest solution to what your asking off the top of my head would be a USB HUB, then multiple tethered cheap 3g phones or 4g modem hotspots that support USB tether your preference.

Most modern window's PC's 7+ will see each one as a separate NiC driver, then manually assign each one to a separate VM.

Of course I dont know if anyone has ever tried this or would even be willing to as the cost of upkeep would be tremendous unless you had access to some kind of insider pricing much lower then the rest of the market.
What I am looking is to log into my stealths everytime with same Static IPs without having to buy Multiple Broadband connections or Multiple 4Gs.
I can get new IP everytime by restarting the router or dongle but then I will be longing into my stealths with different IP everytime and it can make paypal and ebay uncomfortable (or maybe not).
What would you guys advise ? the best and economical way to run multiple stealths ?
Thanks for your comments
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^^
The post above is correct.
You'd have to find out if the company supplying you will allow concurrent bi-directional communication on all the IPs at the same time and if the hardware they supply supports that.
If it doesn't, you have to manually switch IP addresses every time. Not a problem if you dedicate time to your router where you can change IP every time you need to.

Your motherboard may not have that many ports to accommodate several Lan cards so you might have to make do with on card and switch IPs with every VM.

Setting up everything to work on autopilot is entirely possible, but we may need to see your router/modem and some information about your motherboard and available PCI/PCIe slots.
By the way, what network is offering you Static IPs and how much does it cost?

Good luck.
What I am looking is to log into my stealths everytime with same Static IPs without having to buy Multiple Broadband connections or Multiple 4Gs.
I can get new IP everytime by restarting the router or dongle but then I will be longing into my stealths with different IP everytime and it can make paypal and ebay uncomfortable (or maybe not).
What would you guys advise ? the best and economical way to run multiple stealths ?

Its talktalk and costs £22 a month
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What I am looking is to log into my stealths everytime with same Static IPs without having to buy Multiple Broadband connections or Multiple 4Gs.
I can get new IP everytime by restarting the router or dongle but then I will be longing into my stealths with different IP everytime and it can make paypal and ebay uncomfortable (or maybe not).
What would you guys advise ? the best and economical way to run multiple stealths ?

Its talktalk and costs £22 a month
Loggin in with different IPs will not make eBay/Paypal uncomfortable. That is by default, how most of their users access both websites.

The problem I see is technical. And that will be how to implement your static IPs in the lease cumbersome way so that you do not need to toggle with settings every time you wish to switch accounts.

First, you have to contact Talktalk tech support to find out if the device they send you will allow you to connect to those IPs simultaneously. I presume it will, but you don't want any surprises with a contract so it won't hurt to ask.


How you access your IPs will depend on how you run your accounts so the next step will be to decide between windows user accounts vs VMs.

Software implementation under Windows/user:
If your eBay accounts are going to run under windows/user, then a simple software implementation will do.

On Windows 7, you can go to Windows firewall --> inbound rules --> New rules --> Rules type --> Programs --> Custom --> You're looking for "scope" and "users"
to enter your IP address and the affected user account respectively into both fields.
I have skipped the firewalling the browser because I presume you'd know how to do this already.

Rinse and repeat for every other account, and you're done.


If you opt for VMs instead, you could use a more sophisticated software implementation or a simple hardware solution.

Software implementation under VM:
pfSense on a dedicated VM. Just watch some youtube videos to help you set it up.
Steep learning curve awaits you, but you'd save money on hardware while still taking advantage on the extra flexibility VMs have to off stealth accounts.


Hardware implementation under VM:
Depending on your number of accounts, you'd need one or more Quad-port LAN cards. You must dedicate each port to an account so you can work out how many cards you need to purchase. My guess is you do not need more than 2 or 3 quad-port cards. Just make sure your motherboard has got free PCI/PCIe slots to accommodate your cards.

You need LAN cables (RJ45) for each account, and you might also need another router to extend the ports on your TalkTalk router.

As windows user account allows multiple internet connections at the same time, you can go to network sharing centre and name then accordingly, then assign them to your VMs using whatever VM solution you use.

Good luck and I hope you get it sorted.
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Loggin in with different IPs will not make eBay/Paypal uncomfortable. That is by default, how most of their users access both websites.

The problem I see is technical. And that will be how to implement your static IPs in the lease cumbersome way so that you do not need to toggle with settings every time you wish to switch accounts.

First, you have to contact Talktalk tech support to find out if the device they send you will allow you to connect to those IPs simultaneously. I presume it will, but you don't want any surprises with a contract so it won't hurt to ask.


How you access your IPs will depend on how you run your accounts so the next step will be to decide between windows user accounts vs VMs.

Software implementation under Windows/user:
If your eBay accounts are going to run under windows/user, then a simple software implementation will do.

On Windows 7, you can go to Windows firewall --> inbound rules --> New rules --> Rules type --> Programs --> Custom --> You're looking for "scope" and "users"
to enter your IP address and the affected user account respectively into both fields.
I have skipped the firewalling the browser because I presume you'd know how to do this already.

Rinse and repeat for every other account, and you're done.


If you opt for VMs instead, you could use a more sophisticated software implementation or a simple hardware solution.

Software implementation under VM:
pfSense on a dedicated VM. Just watch some youtube videos to help you set it up.
Steep learning curve awaits you, but you'd save money on hardware while still taking advantage on the extra flexibility VMs have to off stealth accounts.


Hardware implementation under VM:
Depending on your number of accounts, you'd need one or more Quad-port LAN cards. You must dedicate each port to an account so you can work out how many cards you need to purchase. My guess is you do not need more than 2 or 3 quad-port cards. Just make sure your motherboard has got free PCI/PCIe slots to accommodate your cards.

You need LAN cables (RJ45) for each account, and you might also need another router to extend the ports on your TalkTalk router.

As windows user account allows multiple internet connections at the same time, you can go to network sharing centre and name then accordingly, then assign them to your VMs using whatever VM solution you use.

Good luck and I hope you get it sorted.
OP has stated he/she has a laptop, only solution I can think of for using VMs with multiple semi-static IP's would be my 3g/4g method in the post above.
(static as long as OP doesn't turn off the device)

OP's biggest problem with his current question is, he/she needs to make sure talktalk is leasing OP static IP's on different Subnets otherwise Im pretty sure ebay/paypal will link every account lol.
(this is why I previously avoided his/her question about his ISP provider and offered an alternative)

Agree with Pandoras_box Good luck with everything OP
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OP has stated he/she has a laptop, only solution I can think of for using VMs with multiple semi-static IP's would be my 3g/4g method in the post above.
(static as long as OP doesn't turn off the device)

OP's biggest problem with his current question is, he/she needs to make sure talktalk is leasing OP static IP's on different Subnets otherwise Im pretty sure ebay/paypal will link every account lol.
(this is why I previously avoided his/her question about his ISP provider and offered an alternative)

Agree with Pandoras_box Good luck with everything OP

Yes, that would be correct. my apologies, I did not notice he was going to use a laptop.
OP will have a lot of research to do and some "if then else" questions to answer if he is to make it work. Otherwise, just switch IPs on a single dongle like some of us do and get on with it.
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In the USA, The cost of multiple static IPs from a major broadband company plus router would be several hundred dollars a month in service fees. Keep in mind, these are going to be consecutive numbers.

If you want to be a normal ebay/paypal user, mobile tethering with a hotpot would be the cheapest, fastest and safest.
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https://www.talktalk.co.uk/business/...FTIX0wodPEgBhA

cheap in the UK if something like this works. Static IP's for a quid.....
Thanks for sharing this .

Can I assign each static IP to a particular Virtual Machine for instance:-

Static IP A with Virtual Machine A
Static IP B with Virtual Machine B
Static IP C with Virtual Machine C

I will be using 1 virtual Machine at a time
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Thanks for sharing this .

Can I assign each static IP to a particular Virtual Machine for instance:-

Static IP A with Virtual Machine A
Static IP B with Virtual Machine B
Static IP C with Virtual Machine C

I will be using 1 virtual Machine at a time
Yes, you can, if TalkTalk allows simultaneous connection to each static IPs, then you can do one better: You would be able to connect these to various VMs running at the same time.


If you want to evade the potential linking problem BarredBunny wrote about above, use a browser that allows full control like opera for example then go to advance settings --> Web RTC --> "Use default public network interfaces only"
That setting should hide everything related to your local connection in the sincerest way possible without arousing suspicion.

Good luck.

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Thanks for sharing this .

Can I assign each static IP to a particular Virtual Machine for instance:-

Static IP A with Virtual Machine A
Static IP B with Virtual Machine B
Static IP C with Virtual Machine C

I will be using 1 virtual Machine at a time
Wouldn't it be simpler to use a VPN on each each machine, as oppose to separate static IPs?

They would both serve the same purpose to be frank.
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