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rafoman 11-27-2020 02:23 PM

Got the UK Ebay VAT email
 
Hi all,

I tried searching (search doesnt allow 3 letter word searches, lol), anyway,

I have a UK ebay account which has £36,000 in sales over the past year. Today I got an email stating that I need to provide them with a VAT number.

My question is, what is the threshold in sales before ebay ask for VAT numbers? This seems like a low figure to be honest but got me thinking about my other accounts,

thanks in advance

james_112233 11-27-2020 02:31 PM

Re: Got the UK Ebay VAT email
 
It's 85k in the UK there must be some glitch on the site for it to trigger a VAT number request.

rafoman 11-27-2020 02:36 PM

Re: Got the UK Ebay VAT email
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james_112233 (Post 1127647)
It's 85k in the UK there must be some glitch on the site for it to trigger a VAT number request.

I thought I had read about £85k too.

hmm, what would you guys do? continue selling until its potentially toast (maybe not) or put it on gardening leave a while?

I am not bothered about not using it for a few weeks...

Any experience in this anyone?

cheers

Hank 11-27-2020 05:01 PM

Re: Got the UK Ebay VAT email
 
If you're adamant that there is no reason for this account to be VAT registered then you need to sort it out with ebay and ask what their reasoning is.

Putting it on gardening leave will not make the issue go away.

Just a wild guess but is it possible they are aware you are the owner of more than one account and have added the turnover of two accounts?

defwax7 11-27-2020 05:15 PM

Re: Got the UK Ebay VAT email
 
I think eBay signed up to an HMRC intiative in 2018, designed to tackle foreign based sellers fraudulently misrepresenting their location to evade vat. Could be a glitch tho!

james_112233 11-27-2020 05:28 PM

Re: Got the UK Ebay VAT email
 
Ok, what defwax makes sense. If ebay think you are not a UK resident you are required to provide a VAT number regardless of the 85k limit.

StealthHarry 11-27-2020 06:04 PM

Re: Got the UK Ebay VAT email
 
I also got it on all my accounts

One hasn’t even passed £1k sales in the year

I doubt it’s a glitch (it could be though), but from the looks of it ebay is going to become very difficult for us to operate stealth off

Anyways best of luck to everyone always

rafoman 11-28-2020 02:47 AM

Re: Got the UK Ebay VAT email
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StealthHarry (Post 1127680)
I also got it on all my accounts

One hasn’t even passed £1k sales in the year

I doubt it’s a glitch (it could be though), but from the looks of it ebay is going to become very difficult for us to operate stealth off

Anyways best of luck to everyone always

Wow. I assume they are business accounts?

Possibly new rules with Brexit completion impending?

james_112233 11-28-2020 03:14 AM

Re: Got the UK Ebay VAT email
 
Simply not possible

eBay would lose all of their UK sellers if they start asking everyone for a VAT number regardless.

People deliberately stay within the threshold because VAT is a nightmare when it comes to accounting unless you can significantly grow your business and make it worthwhile.

Hank 11-28-2020 05:31 AM

Re: Got the UK Ebay VAT email
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StealthHarry (Post 1127680)
I also got it on all my accounts

One hasn’t even passed £1k sales in the year

I doubt it’s a glitch (it could be though), but from the looks of it ebay is going to become very difficult for us to operate stealth off

Anyways best of luck to everyone always

So are you, and also rafoman if they see this, UK based sellers? Are you, or do ebay think, you're not UK residents?


Given you're both displaying the UK flag and haven't mentioned being based in another country, I assumed you were. It's pretty important to know to work out ebays angle.

rafoman 11-28-2020 06:22 AM

Re: Got the UK Ebay VAT email
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 1127804)
So are you, and also rafoman if they see this, UK based sellers? Are you, or do ebay think, you're not UK residents?


Given you're both displaying the UK flag and haven't mentioned being based in another country, I assumed you were. It's pretty important to know to work out ebays angle.

Yes I'm in the UK and I use a UK sim for mobile broadband etc. But I will say this,, I've sent a few items from Germany to the UK recently using a partner in Germany. The tracking would show this. I dont know if that would raise flags?

I have done this before (months, years ago) on other accounts, no issues.

rsot 11-28-2020 07:43 AM

Re: Got the UK Ebay VAT email
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rafoman (Post 1127809)
Yes I'm in the UK and I use a UK sim for mobile broadband etc. But I will say this,, I've sent a few items from Germany to the UK recently using a partner in Germany. The tracking would show this. I dont know if that would raise flags?

I have done this before (months, years ago) on other accounts, no issues.

Done on other accounts without issues...quite likely won't cause issues on the account as long as customer is satisfied

Bigblackdog 11-28-2020 09:54 AM

Re: Got the UK Ebay VAT email
 
If you are UK based, shipping from the UK they will have no need to ask you about VAT unless you are above the threshold

If you are a UK based account but shipping from outside the UK they will

If you are registered on .co.uk but are based outside the UK (Chinese sellers usually are) they will ask for VAT details

The game is getting harder to play all the time

:ranger:

StealthHarry 11-28-2020 07:27 PM

Re: Got the UK Ebay VAT email
 
I’m UK based sending to U.K. only

The account is honestly not passed a £1000 in sales, they’ve flagged all my accounts for it, none of them have even done £10k in sales this year

Chinese sellers are having a laugh, killing the U.K. market via eBay, and eBay screws us UK Sellers to top it off

Bigblackdog 11-29-2020 04:04 AM

Re: Got the UK Ebay VAT email
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StealthHarry (Post 1127951)
I’m UK based sending to U.K. only

The account is honestly not passed a £1000 in sales, they’ve flagged all my accounts for it, none of them have even done £10k in sales this year

Chinese sellers are having a laugh, killing the U.K. market via eBay, and eBay screws us UK Sellers to top it off

You need to contact EB and explain that your turnover is below the VAT threshold and Customs and Excise have told you that you are not required to register - EB cannot force voluntary registratiob

:ranger:

Rusek 11-30-2020 03:17 PM

Re: Got the UK Ebay VAT email
 
Got on absolutely fresh accounts (personal all) with no sales, just clicked that I am not vat registered


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