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DHMC 08-02-2021 04:51 PM

Is this the end for stealth accounts?
 
"Your payouts are on hold until you update your account details. Please update by 23 Aug, 2021 to avoid further restrictions. "

I feel like ebays move to control the payments from paypal wasn't just so they control both ends but so they can tighten up on stealth accounts.

PP was so damn easy to fool!

I've heard ebay uses a 3rd party which reads the ID's unique code IE passport number or driver number and checks it against a database?

If so it means our creative docs are doomed!

My real ID is perm banned from ebay and will never be lifted and my business is ebay reliant!

murdered_by_ebay 08-02-2021 05:25 PM

Re: Is this the end for stealth accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DHMC (Post 1165026)
"Your payouts are on hold until you update your account details. Please update by 23 Aug, 2021 to avoid further restrictions. "

I feel like ebays move to control the payments from paypal wasn't just so they control both ends but so they can tighten up on stealth accounts.

PP was so damn easy to fool!

I've heard ebay uses a 3rd party which reads the ID's unique code IE passport number or driver number and checks it against a database?

If so it means our creative docs are doomed!

My real ID is perm banned from ebay and will never be lifted and my business is ebay reliant!

is this personal or business? after how much turnover on MP?

DHMC 08-02-2021 07:20 PM

Re: Is this the end for stealth accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1165030)
is this personal or business? after how much turnover on MP?

personal, £3000 ish a month

murdered_by_ebay 08-02-2021 07:52 PM

Re: Is this the end for stealth accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DHMC (Post 1165036)
personal, £3000 ish a month

was it 3000 in total? personal usually gets verified somewhat delayed , just change to your real name and you should be good to go. ebay won't mind if you were suspended in the past not being on MP

kirkland 08-02-2021 09:12 PM

Re: Is this the end for stealth accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1165037)
was it 3000 in total? personal usually gets verified somewhat delayed , just change to your real name and you should be good to go. ebay won't mind if you were suspended in the past not being on MP

youre saying ebay wont mind if you change your account details to those used in past when you were suspended? that doesnt seem right

Steveo036940 08-03-2021 03:57 PM

Re: Is this the end for stealth accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kirkland (Post 1165046)
youre saying ebay wont mind if you change your account details to those used in past when you were suspended? that doesnt seem right

It's not OK to change every detail...just the ones that will not link you to your old suspended account.
This includes name (ebay doesn't link names, otherwise every Tom, Dick and Harry would be suspended).
Also, SSN and DOB as EBay never had this information (PayPal did)
These are the details MP needs, your real name with matching SSN and DOB.
Everything else should be different (just like stealth), including address, IP, browser, user account, email, phone number, etc. It's these details that ebay has on file from your suspended accounts and it's what they can use to link your accounts.

murdered_by_ebay 08-03-2021 04:47 PM

Re: Is this the end for stealth accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kirkland (Post 1165046)
youre saying ebay wont mind if you change your account details to those used in past when you were suspended? that doesnt seem right

it is exactly right , everybody suspended before MP can go on MP with their suspended details. of course if you get suspended on MP later this will not work anymore

Freakzilla 08-03-2021 06:48 PM

Re: Is this the end for stealth accounts?
 
Not completely true. Some have been suspended.

Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1165152)
it is exactly right , everybody suspended before MP can go on MP with their suspended details. of course if you get suspended on MP later this will not work anymore


murdered_by_ebay 08-03-2021 07:13 PM

Re: Is this the end for stealth accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Freakzilla (Post 1165159)
Not completely true. Some have been suspended.

not because of previous suspensions though

dune 08-04-2021 02:32 AM

Re: Is this the end for stealth accounts?
 
I'm still confused about which adress to put. Couldn't be real (google maps) but one you've never lived in. Are you sure they know / check if you have lived at that address? Is it so important ...?

colie72 08-06-2021 11:05 AM

Re: Is this the end for stealth accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steveo036940 (Post 1165148)
It's not OK to change every detail...just the ones that will not link you to your old suspended account.
This includes name (ebay doesn't link names, otherwise every Tom, Dick and Harry would be suspended).
Also, SSN and DOB as EBay never had this information (PayPal did)
These are the details MP needs, your real name with matching SSN and DOB.
Everything else should be different (just like stealth), including address, IP, browser, user account, email, phone number, etc. It's these details that ebay has on file from your suspended accounts and it's what they can use to link your accounts.

We don't use SSN in the UK. So how would they match name and DOB without same/real address? If doing a credit check they use name, DOB and address to find you.

great info btw!

kirkland 08-06-2021 11:58 PM

Re: Is this the end for stealth accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sureness (Post 1165444)
for USA - Name, SSN, DOB and Address should match
For UK - Name, DOB and Address should match

And yes, they do credit checks and/or electoral roll

You sure about the address? thats not my understanding

dune 08-07-2021 02:34 AM

Re: Is this the end for stealth accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kirkland (Post 1165458)
You sure about the address? thats not my understanding

I agree with you, it can't be possible, people is moving constantly, e.g.: students ...

So in that case which is the solution?, change the adress on file with your bank to the stealth one? ... I would not mind because all the postal correspondence is electronic and you could always change the adress in the bank again (But for a week, when you know the credit card is going to expire to receive the new one, as I have read that eBay do review accounts periodically, which I don't neither know if it's completely accurate ...)

yellowprintdirect 08-08-2021 08:50 PM

Re: Is this the end for stealth accounts?
 
On subject of banning & linking. I made a error and signed in once with a new account into a user account of one of my est accounts. As it was just the once have them accounts been linked now? Or my understanding is they need more solid links then a one time sign in on same user account ??

Shouid I make a new user account for my est account again or has the damage been done ??


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