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prankin75 08-13-2024 08:05 PM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
Is the check digit algo public knowlegde? I have their been previous tools that can generate / verify it?

Thanks mate


Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1243146)
Spot on

The format much match the check digits in place

They have no access to the NI database itself and I highly doubt HMRC are going to be telling ebay names don't match. HMRC cares taxes are being paid that's really its

Its a law ebay is complying with not a 2 way information sharing venture

This doesn't suit ebay they will loose revenue because of its implication


BeachedHead 09-10-2024 02:28 PM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
Has anyone tried entering in a NINO from a NINO generator? One of my Stealth accounts has had a request for it...I am contemplating using a generator to see what happens. Its not a major account, but would still be a loss if I lose it as its a few years old.

james_112233 09-11-2024 02:14 AM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
So accounts that are a few years old are getting NiNo requests now ? I thought it was only accounts made this year ? And all legacy accounts from next year.

Those being asked for one, what category are you selling in ?

BeachedHead 09-11-2024 03:00 AM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james_112233 (Post 1246904)
So accounts that are a few years old are getting NiNo requests now ? I thought it was only accounts made this year ? And all legacy accounts from next year.

Those being asked for one, what category are you selling in ?

Hi, I can only tell you what I've told you. I was surprised when the red box of death appeared too. Its been there two weeks, still selling, adding quantities and getting payouts...for how long I dont know.

Standard category., nothing risky or VERO filled etc

Freakzilla 09-11-2024 05:15 AM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
The legislation states marketplaces have an addition year for accounts created before this year. Marketplaces can collect the date any time from now until then. Nowhere does it state the date will be collected from next year and not this year.

james_112233 09-11-2024 08:34 AM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BeachedHead (Post 1246906)
Hi, I can only tell you what I've told you. I was surprised when the red box of death appeared too. Its been there two weeks, still selling, adding quantities and getting payouts...for how long I dont know.

Standard category., nothing risky or VERO filled etc

Ok so they are still paying out ? That's good news. Please keep us posted in regards to when they actually restrict payouts / selling.

BeachedHead 09-11-2024 01:56 PM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james_112233 (Post 1246929)
Ok so they are still paying out ? That's good news. Please keep us posted in regards to when they actually restrict payouts / selling.


For now, I hazard a guess it will stop at some point, I'll get a redder box stating that payouts will be stopped if I dont upload yada yada.

I agree with James on this thread, there is no way eBay will get access to check the NINO number, for now anyway, but I think something will be in the making so that they can get a verification at least of the number matching the name on the accout, but that will be a while a way.

Still we will find out when someone enters a generated NINO number.

brucey 09-12-2024 05:56 AM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
This is just my opinion but this whole tax thing has been put on ebay by the HMRC - they will do the minimum of what's required as this will disrupt their business and the number of sellers on the platform.
Initially I think Ebay will pass on the NINO information and await further feedback from HMRC, if the numbers are incorrect or false then the account may then be closed depending on the agreement between the two.
Given how slow HMRC are their could easily be a gap extending months into years.
ebay wont be verifying anything on behalf of HMRC

brucey 09-12-2024 05:57 AM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
I believe someone on this platform already has submitted an incorrect number accoridng to another thread and this was accepted
Quote:

Originally Posted by BeachedHead (Post 1246939)
For now, I hazard a guess it will stop at some point, I'll get a redder box stating that payouts will be stopped if I dont upload yada yada.

I agree with James on this thread, there is no way eBay will get access to check the NINO number, for now anyway, but I think something will be in the making so that they can get a verification at least of the number matching the name on the accout, but that will be a while a way.

Still we will find out when someone enters a generated NINO number.


ft16 09-14-2024 04:16 AM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brucey (Post 1246973)
I believe someone on this platform already has submitted an incorrect number accoridng to another thread and this was accepted

I have submitted several different numbers without any issues so far, obviously you need to make sure they the right format and a valid prefix, there is no checksum.

brucey 09-16-2024 09:12 AM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
Obviously there is the risk that HMRC may "come a calling", even if you are using stealth details the bank account linked would find its way back to the correct person.

Given vast majority of this will be automated letters on a large scale etc I'd doubt it, but the risk still lies.
I think it does say in the T&C's that bank information would be supplied to HMRC


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