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colt63 05-29-2024 04:47 AM

National Insurance Number
 
Had my first request for NI number for one one my UK accounts last night.
Anyone else had this?

Freakzilla 05-29-2024 04:49 AM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
Was this a new account?

colt63 05-29-2024 05:06 AM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
No, it was an aged account, 100+ feedback. Logged in to mark an item as shipped and there was a red banner which directed me to add NI number.
It is not a stealth account.

Freakzilla 05-29-2024 05:10 AM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
I've not had it yet for any of my accounts. I guess this is the start of compiling the info for HMRC for next years submission.

Did you add the NI number?

colt63 05-29-2024 05:21 AM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
Yes I did, as there was a deadline in which to add it, or face limitations on the account.

Freakzilla 05-29-2024 05:30 AM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
Out of interest how long was the deadline?

colt63 05-29-2024 05:34 AM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
I think it was a month, or just less, I'm sorry I did not take more notice, or in fact, take a screenshot.

Freakzilla 05-29-2024 05:46 AM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
That's fine, just wondered. Thanks

James8989 05-29-2024 11:24 AM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
May I ask was there any verification process, payment holds etc ?

colt63 05-29-2024 03:22 PM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
No nothing at all, account fully verified ages ago, went to log in, as they had logged me out, and was asked to add the NI number, and re-verify bank account, which has had over 100 withdrawals over time.
Account has no holds, and is running as it should.

James8989 05-29-2024 03:52 PM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
Thanks for the info, I hope they don’t ask to re-verify bank accounts by taking the deposit back as I am using saving account and as far as I know this doesn’t work on this type of bank accounts anymore :(

murdered_by_ebay 05-29-2024 05:48 PM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by colt63 (Post 1242299)
No nothing at all, account fully verified ages ago, went to log in, as they had logged me out, and was asked to add the NI number, and re-verify bank account, which has had over 100 withdrawals over time.
Account has no holds, and is running as it should.

did the red banner disappear immediately? did you re-verify by micros?

colt63 05-30-2024 05:44 AM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
No red banner is still there, with payments on hold until micro deposits have been verified, I hope!
Still waiting for them.

murdered_by_ebay 05-30-2024 03:53 PM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by colt63 (Post 1242324)
No red banner is still there, with payments on hold until micro deposits have been verified, I hope!
Still waiting for them.

is the red banner for NIN number or micro deposits? it sounds like you entered NIN , then got red banner for deposits and now the banner is probably mentioning deposits only?

colt63 05-31-2024 10:50 AM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
The account has been running for 2 years, fully verified, not stealth, the bank account has remained the same.

Had to fill in NI number
Re-verifiy bank account again

Now the account is back to normal, red banner gone.

Spoke to an agent who told me that this is being rolled out in the Uk for tax purposes.

Mr_Blue_Sky 06-01-2024 04:24 PM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
Was this a private seller account or a sole trader?

I understand ebays hands are tied but a sole trader could rightly take umbrage with them and ask why they cannot supply their UTR.

Anyway, it begins....gonna be some fallout over this for sure.

Freakzilla 06-01-2024 07:07 PM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
They can't because HMRC Have stipulated to each marketplace that they want National Insurance number for each seller that reaches the thresholds stated.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Blue_Sky (Post 1242499)
Was this a private seller account or a sole trader?

I understand ebays hands are tied but a sole trader could rightly take umbrage with them and ask why they cannot supply their UTR.

Anyway, it begins....gonna be some fallout over this for sure.


13obby 06-02-2024 02:49 AM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
Do we know if they by they i mean ebay have means of verifying NI numbers?

Mr_Blue_Sky 06-02-2024 03:41 AM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Freakzilla (Post 1242507)
They can't because HMRC Have stipulated to each marketplace that they want National Insurance number for each seller that reaches the thresholds stated.

As I said, I appreciate it's out of ebays hands. Just seems unusual to ask a business for a National Insurance Number. Amazon already ask Sole traders for their UTR, seem the logical piece of data to ask for but it is what it is for now.

I guess HMRC will have to fathom it out for themselves how they use the data they collect and apply it to each seller.

In reality, they will use it to cherry-pick those who don't appear to be paying any tax - that should keep them busy for a a decade or so.

Worth mentioning that Limited Companies shouldn't have this obligation one would think as that's not who HMRC are after.

Mr_Blue_Sky 06-02-2024 03:44 AM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 13obby (Post 1242514)
Do we know if they by they i mean ebay have means of verifying NI numbers?

ebay will not be able to check you have supplied your own NI number, only that it meets the correct format.

The best the could do is ask for a copy of a document, they certainly wont have access to HMRC databases and wouldn't want to anyway. They'll do the bare minimum that is asked of them.

James8989 06-02-2024 05:21 AM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
I am wondering how are they planning to keep all this information safe… imagine if hackers get their hands on your name, bank account, address, national insurance , Id and etc it is not safe at all to ask people to put so much sensitive information online, this will cause a lot of issues in the future for sure.

colt63 06-02-2024 06:17 AM

Re: National Insurance Number
 
This is a private seller account.


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