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teenageebayer 05-31-2011 12:51 PM

Having a ebay business
 
Ok, well i am 16 and would like to setup an ebay buisness legitimately. I have done this before but made the mistake of dropshipping which ultimately led to the demise of that account. However i have had a fair bit of experience with ebay and know of a few products which i know will sell well and are in a niche.

Ok so my question is, is there anything i should do partically to not get closed down by ebay? I must emphasise i will not be selling vero and it will all be legit aside from my age :/. So yer any advice on not getting 'caught'?

This is my plan to start off please comment on how well it would work in your opinion :-),

1) Open up a santander under 18 current account (with online banking) just for the business.

2) Transfer around £50-100 to this bank account

3) Set-up new paypal and ebay account and validate them with new bank account.

4)build up feedback to about 20 to allow me to sell multiple products in one auction by buying e-books.

5)Purchase the items i need such as my stock (which is very cheap to start off with only about £10 for 10 pieces but should make back £15 net) and buy jiffybags and document bags.

6) list items and then once sold order more stock (say 20 pieces as made £15 profit)

7) repeat until paypal account reaches £100 then withdraw £50 to bank.

8) repeat until rich haha (also might register as sole trader if all goes well)

So how does this all sound? Low risk at only £50 investment and all i have got to loose is that. Only want to make a few bob instead of part time job (so say £100-200 a month would be my aim).

Cheers guys :)

GrannyT 05-31-2011 01:05 PM

What an enterprising young man you are - welcome to the forums - I'm sure someone will be along shortly who knows a lot more than me but from what I've read you seem to be in the right direction:thumb:

teenageebayer 05-31-2011 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by grannytranny (Post 234238)
What an enterprising young man you are - welcome to the forums - I'm sure someone will be along shortly who knows a lot more than me but from what I've read you seem to be in the right direction:thumb:

Haha thanks :-) hope it will be ok, just don't want to get closed down as would love to make this a success :D As i said in the post before i done drop shipping a bit and it went quite well and only got 1 negative feedback out of 120 but it was my rating on 'dispatch time' which let me down. I made about £130 a month from that so i know i can make that if i ship from England myself as i can make sure i ship same day 1st class so no issues :)

teenageebayer 05-31-2011 01:43 PM

Advice anyone? Thanks :-)

GrannyT 05-31-2011 02:26 PM

Be patient young man - some of our best contributors are asleep - they'll get to you
:pop2:

teenageebayer 05-31-2011 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by grannytranny (Post 234258)
Be patient young man - some of our best contributors are asleep - they'll get to you
:pop2:

Haha, i am inpatient :P But ill leave it till morning and i might wake up to some advice :D exciting times :P

rsot 05-31-2011 02:56 PM

Welcome to the forums. Business model looks ok in theory - just pace yourself. Worry more about working stealth rather than doing it all in your real info. All the best.

Themightycrow 05-31-2011 03:02 PM

Well im 15 and im running 3 Ebay accounts with all 20 + positive feedback

I can confirm that the santander Under 18's saving account with online banking works perfectly, also the current account does.

Goodluck.

GrannyT 05-31-2011 03:04 PM

I'm seriously impressed with our young people!!:clap:
:pop2:

ShadyOne 05-31-2011 03:44 PM

You have to be 18 to use eBay and PayPal right?

edit: Oh but this is stealth. New rules. I should read the thread first as well init!

stealthmaster 05-31-2011 03:52 PM

I love this guys entrepreneurial spirit reminds me such of my self a while back, remember mate you should follow the "Stealth Guide". Although you are young my friend so I would do a bit of research before opening up the account in question, and all will be fine remember all new eBay UK sellers accounts have a 10 item limit per month. So if your selling £1 items 10 items = £10 I don't know about a business account selling limits I'd imagine it would be in the same region.

Stealth Master :clap:

ShadyOne 05-31-2011 03:56 PM

Meh, just keep it up, you will learn most of it as you get older. Look through the forums and stuff!

Good luck

teenageebayer 05-31-2011 04:03 PM

Thanks for all the replys :-) I wasn't going to run it 'stealth' just my real address,name etc but change my DOB to 18. Would this matter that much? I dont want this account to get closed down and as i have said apart from my age i plan on doing everything legit so no reason to get closed down. Advice? Thanks :-)

ShadyOne 05-31-2011 04:08 PM

^ Thought you have been suspended already?

Need new details! Everything!

teenageebayer 05-31-2011 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadyOne (Post 234318)
^ Thought you have beend suspended already?

Need new details!

Ok not really suspended, Got my paypal account locked on one but then ran another paypal account under same address and details fine but didn't verify so left it as run into the limit before verifying.

So thought it would be ok to use same address etc as i plan on doing it legit and dont want to be doing it dodgy with false names etc. I haven't had an actual ebay account banned for selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ or anything only paypal limited. Advice? Thanks again :-)

teenageebayer 05-31-2011 04:13 PM

Oh yer, one more idea i currently have a ebay business acount with my real details with 120 positive feedback so looks good, but on delivery rating is only 4 stars. Anyway should i make a shiny new paypal account with real details and link it to this ebay account or start a new one and try and stay at 5 star ratings? Thanks

ShadyOne 05-31-2011 04:32 PM

^ Learn stealth before you plan to invest all your time into these accounts.

Buy the book and search the forums.

I have no doubt you will take to it all like a grannytranny to vodka!

easytiger12381 05-31-2011 04:37 PM

Be careful with the ebook buying for feedback. The stealth guide advises against this as ebay have cottoned on to what people are doing. You could end up limited for feedback manipulation.

teenageebayer 05-31-2011 04:41 PM

But would i need to go stealth? I have nothing to hide par my age? So surely i will be fine with honest info? Thanks

GrannyT 05-31-2011 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadyOne (Post 234334)

I have no doubt you will take to it all like a grannytranny to vodka!

:eek:. .:eek:. .:eek:

teenageebayer 05-31-2011 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by easytiger12381 (Post 234337)
Be careful with the ebook buying for feedback. The stealth guide advises against this as ebay have cottoned on to what people are doing. You could end up limited for feedback manipulation.

How would you advise getting feedback? Basically i want this one account to be long term not making new account every few month or running multiple accounts. I just would like one honest account to bring in some 'pocket money' achievable? Or is stealth the only way? Thanks :D

GrannyT 05-31-2011 04:55 PM

Then don't buy feedback!:yar:

ShadyOne 05-31-2011 04:56 PM

Your address has already been suspended, so depends on what details were used with this. You also need to know about how eBay/PayPal track you etc Too much to go into tbh!

You open an account with your real details and you may blow it! Go stealth.

techbayelectronics 05-31-2011 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by solmanrobert (Post 234347)
How would you advise getting feedback? Basically i want this one account to be long term not making new account every few month or running multiple accounts. I just would like one honest account to bring in some 'pocket money' achievable? Or is stealth the only way? Thanks :D

i am also 15 and i love your idea of gaining feedback from purchasing ebooks!!! But trust me you do not want to mess with your real information at our age, im just going to stay stealth until i am 18 and old enough to actually be an ebay member (;, Good luck!

GreenBean 05-31-2011 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by solmanrobert (Post 234341)
But would i need to go stealth? I have nothing to hide bar my age? So surely i will be fine with honest info? Thanks

Never assume.

To be blunt, you should consider looking at having ebay stealth. Why? Many answers are there, & when posters are busy leading their own lifes & not around to reply to you, you can work out things for yourself.

Here's the poop: use paypal and paypal will do whatever it wants to you. Get that in your mind set NOW.

Dont be making any new accounts until the whole scenario 'clicks' in the brain.

Remember paypal/ebay do not play fair. Learn to play to beat them :juggle:
And Welcome!:pop2:

teenageebayer 06-01-2011 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by techbayelectronics (Post 234370)
i am also 15 and i love your idea of gaining feedback from purchasing ebooks!!! But trust me you do not want to mess with your real information at our age, im just going to stay stealth until i am 18 and old enough to actually be an ebay member (;, Good luck!

Hi, i have run an ebay account to 120 positive feedback with real info fine? But surely if i use false info then they can tell its ⊗⊗⊗⊗ as my real name will be on my bank details? Thanks :-)

easytiger12381 06-01-2011 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teenageebayer (Post 234347)
How would you advise getting feedback? Basically i want this one account to be long term not making new account every few month or running multiple accounts. I just would like one honest account to bring in some 'pocket money' achievable? Or is stealth the only way? Thanks :D

Get feedback slowly. By all means buy a few ebooks but eb@y could be alerted to what you are doing. Buy different low price items. If you want your account to last you need to take things slowly. Rushing in will just get you limited. No- you do not need to go stealth, but I would have your legit account and maybe open a stealth account now and leave it ageing- just in case you ever had problems with your legit account.

teenageebayer 06-01-2011 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by easytiger12381 (Post 234519)
Get feedback slowly. By all means buy a few ebooks but eb@y could be alerted to what you are doing. Buy different low price items. If you want your account to last you need to take things slowly. Rushing in will just get you limited. No- you do not need to go stealth, but I would have your legit account and maybe open a stealth account now and leave it ageing- just in case you ever had problems with your legit account.

Ok thanks, i just read that you need to send in photo id to lift the limit on paypal now which would be a problem due to my age :/ advice? Thanks :-)

Themightycrow 06-01-2011 06:16 AM

Basically i got suspended as they wanted my ID, sent them a pic of my Passport (Which states im 15) They didn't even check that, they unsususpended my on the spot. So just send a normal ID in. They don't check age

easytiger12381 06-01-2011 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by teenageebayer (Post 234531)
Ok thanks, i just read that you need to send in photo id to lift the limit on paypal now which would be a problem due to my age :/ advice? Thanks :-)

You normally only need ID to lift the £1900 receiving limit. That is £1900 a year- would you be selling this amount of stuff?- If not just leave the limit where it is.

teenageebayer 06-01-2011 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by easytiger12381 (Post 234555)
You normally only need ID to lift the £1900 receiving limit. That is £1900 a year- would you be selling this amount of stuff?- If not just leave the limit where it is.

Its more my sending limit that i would hit, but this can be taken off just by using a bank account right? Thanks

easytiger12381 06-01-2011 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by teenageebayer (Post 234562)
Its more my sending limit that i would hit, but this can be taken off just by using a bank account right? Thanks

I think so. I kind of waltz through the removal of those limits without paying much attention to be honest- just the receiving limit that takes a bit of time.:D

teenageebayer 06-01-2011 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by easytiger12381 (Post 234567)
I think so. I kind of waltz through the removal of those limits without paying much attention to be honest- just the receiving limit that takes a bit of time.:D

Ok cool, so bank account for sending limits and photo id for receiving limit? Is that correct? Thanks :-)

easytiger12381 06-01-2011 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by teenageebayer (Post 234568)
Ok cool, so bank account for sending limits and photo id for receiving limit? Is that correct? Thanks :-)

You dont always need ID- only if PP cannot verify you on electoral roll- which they will not be able to for you due to your age. They will ask you to confirm your personal details and you will have to wait for about 30 seconds while it processes. If they are happy then the receiving limit will simply be lifted- end of story. They may at this point ask for the ID if they cannot confirm your details.

I have luckily not been required to send in ID yet- touch wood, but apparently you can be creative with photoshop and perhaps change your DOB. I have no experience with this but if I needed ID I would probably contact a member of the forum selling accounts etc to see if they could help-for a costs obviously.

rsot 06-01-2011 09:53 AM

@teenageebayer - ok I did not read ALL the follow-up posts of yours (a few sure) and not all the posts by our well-versed forum members but I seriously think that while you have a GOOD attitude, you NEED to fix your set-up model first.

You're using real info - not the best move since you have said you have used pp and eb in the past with similar info...you are asking to get shut down.

Now ONCE you understand stealth (you don't necessarily NEED the guide but it's very nice and simple), then you focus on id, how to sell, bank, etc.

Really looks to me like you are asking to get shut down by not doing EVERYTHING fresh.

And your questions are beginning to get along the lines of how to operate as opposed to how to setup...

All the best.

teenageebayer 06-01-2011 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 234591)
@teenageebayer - ok I did not read ALL the follow-up posts of yours (a few sure) and not all the posts by our well-versed forum members but I seriously think that while you have a GOOD attitude, you NEED to fix your set-up model first.

You're using real info - not the best move since you have said you have used pp and eb in the past with similar info...you are asking to get shut down.

Now ONCE you understand stealth (you don't necessarily NEED the guide but it's very nice and simple), then you focus on id, how to sell, bank, etc.

Really looks to me like you are asking to get shut down by not doing EVERYTHING fresh.

And your questions are beginning to get along the lines of how to operate as opposed to how to setup...

All the best.

Ok thanks, it just the whole stealth thing feel weird and feels like i would more likely to be closed down doing as such (silly i know), But im starting to think i have a ebay account in good standing which dosnt have any bads paypals linked as the only paypal linked to it was legit but i didnt lift the limit as my bank was blacklisted with a previous account so may just verify that paypal with a new bank and see how i get along, if i get closed down then ill go fully stealth. Thanks :-)

rsot 06-01-2011 11:31 AM

Sure thing - trial and error is a way to approach. Yes I can bet stealth feels odd due to the concept but it's one method that works well for a LOT of people.

When you say the only pp linked to your good standing eb account is legit...no suspensions or anything? Worth a try.

I will say that I am nowhere near perfect, have failed, have tried, have done stuff just to test - gets more experience and from that, I contribute.

Report back with what you find - all the best.

teenageebayer 06-01-2011 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 234640)
Sure thing - trial and error is a way to approach. Yes I can bet stealth feels odd due to the concept but it's one method that works well for a LOT of people.

When you say the only pp linked to your good standing eb account is legit...no suspensions or anything? Worth a try.

I will say that I am nowhere near perfect, have failed, have tried, have done stuff just to test - gets more experience and from that, I contribute.

Report back with what you find - all the best.

Ok yer, basically my ebay history is quite a wierd one but ill try to explain it :-),

1) about a year ago now i setup my first ebay and paypal expecting it to just be for buying, then started selling old ps2 games that i had around the house. Got about 40 ish feedback then paypal got limited so stopped for a bit this paypal had my bank linked to it.

2) few month later setup a new ebay account and paypal seprate from my original as a buisness acount and dropshipped for a bit but used dealextreme (big big mistake) which took a year to ship customers got annoyed and eventually the account failed due to poor case ratings no credit cards or anything linked.

3) gave up for a few months until found a new supplier who looked to have good dropshipping, then went back onto original account, de-linked then paypal and setup a new paypal as a buisness one and changed the account type to buisness. Due to no other bank account i dropshipped with this for about 3 months fine untill i hit my limit so withdrew/spent the paypal balance and shut up shop.

4) this is where i am at now, i have a 120 feedback account which is in the clear it would seem as a year ish old now and paypal that is currently linked to is fine just hit the limit. Decided i want to setup buisness properly from my house so my plan is not to just get a speperate bank just for this buisness and invest £50 to start it off and see how well it does.


Ok thats it haha, Any advice? I like working on ebay as i was making £130 a month from it by only working 10 min a day (just placing the orders with my dropshipper) but again as from china there were a few problems so want to do it properly from england so i can get the orders to them in a few days not a few weeks. Thanks :-) and any advice again?

rsot 06-01-2011 11:58 AM

What more advice do you want from me? Ha...

1. de-linked - no such term, one you start switching pp's to eb they are linked and subject to linked blocking.

2. Dropshipping is ALWAYS rough - unless your guy is 100% solid, you are bound to have problems some time other.

Your story is duly noted. Any more info from me would be business consultation and subject to fees =) PM if you want but I think you have a lot of good advice on this post - not just from me...

teenageebayer 06-01-2011 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 234644)
What more advice do you want from me? Ha...

1. de-linked - no such term, one you start switching pp's to eb they are linked and subject to linked blocking.

Yer, i know but it seems fine as done about £1200 of trading on the account since the limited paypal so you never know they might love me! Haha, and yer dropshipping sucked with dealextreme got home from school to just anser the same question to like 10 people "where is my item!" etc but with the other supplier it wasn't too bad apart from over chinese new year.

But yer i would like to start shipping myself so i feel i have a bit more controll over my customer service and shipping time :-)


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