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heikki10 04-29-2012 03:49 PM

Do stealth accounts really work?
 
Go to the eBay Accounts for Sale section

How long have you had yours for? i'm thinking of creating one since i've been the latest victim of ebay suspension for no apperant reason.

Also do i need to create a new paypal account for my new stealth account? or can i just create a new email and then add it to my existing paypal account and then link that new email to my ebay (paypal allows 6 emails per account) so that way it looks like my stealth ebay account has a new paypal

*Updated post to direct users to the eBay Accounts for Sale marketplace within the forum.

Imakemoney 04-29-2012 03:53 PM

Welcome to the forum.

It seems your not grasping the basics of stealth. Read around the forum or get the stealth guide to get you started :) anything that links you to your old accounts will get you suspended

I've been running stealth accounts for 2+ years & never had one taken out because i've learnt how to operate them properly. so yes stealth does work very much so :typing:

Ebayorbust 04-29-2012 04:12 PM

New eBay, new paypal, new everything.

Get the guide and read the forum. :)

I've got stealth accounts approaching 3 years old.

eternity4u 04-29-2012 04:30 PM

Actually, because of this forum, it has helped me to beat eBay system.
First I use to cry when I lost an account. And now it's like....okay move on to the next one.
This all seems hard, but once you have learned this game...nothing would stop you from making good money

Sandy D 04-29-2012 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heikki10 (Post 336261)
How long have you had yours for? i'm thinking of creating one since i've been the latest victim of ebay suspension for no apperant reason.

Also do i need to create a new paypal account for my new stealth account? or can i just create a new email and then add it to my existing paypal account and then link that new email to my ebay (paypal allows 6 emails per account) so that way it looks like my stealth ebay account has a new paypal



I have several over 2 years old and one almost 3 years old.

Several 1 year old and a gazillion 6 months or newer.

They wont ever hurt me again and wont ever leave me with a garage full of stuff that I have no place to sell it at.

Now I am adding storage sheds one after another to store by purchases in for all of my accounts.

Thinking of renting a building someday.

Do they really work?

Yes, they sure do. With time, effort and determination.

eternity4u 04-29-2012 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy D (Post 336289)
I have several over 2 years old and one almost 3 years old.

Several 1 year old and a gazillion 6 months or newer.

They wont ever hurt me again and wont ever leave me with a garage full of stuff that I have no place to sell it at.

Now I am adding storage sheds one after another to store by purchases in for all of my accounts.

Thinking of renting a building someday.

Do they really work?

Yes, they sure do. With time, effort and determination.


absolutely agree.

With hard work, it does pay off.

GreenBean 04-30-2012 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heikki10 (Post 336261)
How long have you had yours for? i'm thinking of creating one since i've been the latest victim of ebay suspension for no apperant reason.

Also do i need to create a new paypal account for my new stealth account? or can i just create a new email and then add it to my existing paypal account and then link that new email to my ebay (paypal allows 6 emails per account) so that way it looks like my stealth ebay account has a new paypal

There is ALWAYS a reason for suspension.

The problem is that the person suspended does not understand it or accept it.
I know it's a bad shock.

You've joined us now. With hard work you can start again and beat ebay.

Please forget your idea of changing emails. Not for long term success.

Read carefully the advice give by the others and start planing,:)

Welcome to the forum

heikki10 05-01-2012 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean™ (Post 336387)
There is ALWAYS a reason for suspension.

The problem is that the person suspended does not understand it or accept it.
I know it's a bad shock.

You've joined us now. With hard work you can start again and beat ebay.

Please forget your idea of changing emails. Not for long term success.

Read carefully the advice give by the others and start planing,:)

Welcome to the forum

When i say i was suspended for no reason i really do mean it literally. I had done absoloutly nothing wrong. My account had 100% positive feedback, was fully verified and everything! I have been talking to ebay on the phone and even the staffs were not too sure on what had happened and kept bouncing me from 1 department to the other

NoneOther 05-02-2012 05:48 PM

As has already been said, there is always a reason.

eBay King 05-02-2012 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heikki10 (Post 336261)
How long have you had yours for? i'm thinking of creating one since i've been the latest victim of ebay suspension for no apperant reason.

Also do i need to create a new paypal account for my new stealth account? or can i just create a new email and then add it to my existing paypal account and then link that new email to my ebay (paypal allows 6 emails per account) so that way it looks like my stealth ebay account has a new paypal


Yes, stealth on eBay works very well. I have been running different stealth accounts for over 8 years.

Some will go down for whatever reason, no doubt. But it does not matter. Easy money!

If you can stick with it for your first year of the creation and managing of different accounts, you will learn valuable skills. It takes a fair while to learn how it all works, but if you can stick with it, you will not regret it. :heh:

Cashew 05-02-2012 09:19 PM

IT WORKS WELL

Read and ask questions..

I have 2 stea lths still making money after 1 year without any problems

I only know about 10% of what i need to know, but these people here will help you with just about anything you want....as long as it's legal

Sometimes there is just plain ol' bad advice so don't take just anyone's word.
Read alot and see who is the reputable people are and you can definitely believe them.

Start now and you won't regret it

E bay and Pay pal are always changing the rules and policies so come here often and keep up with what others are doing about it.


good luck

GreenBean 05-02-2012 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heikki10 (Post 336718)
When i say i was suspended for no reason i really do mean it literally. I had done absoloutly nothing wrong. My account had 100% positive feedback, was fully verified and everything! I have been talking to ebay on the phone and even the staffs were not too sure on what had happened and kept bouncing me from 1 department to the other

Sadly 'literally' and 'ebay' together fail. :pout:

If you are aiming to start again do it :peace:


My best suggestion is to read lots. Then make a plan and post it here for us to tweak. Avoid jumping straight in and making a new ebay account

Godd Luck

moneyhustler88 05-04-2012 08:30 PM

Firstly Heikki10, i would get out of the mindframe you did nothing wrong, that may well be the case, however from paypal's side as a business they get scammed out of millions a year. So they have stupid policies and a automated system which will limit your account if it flags anything they condone as 'suspicious' or 'too fast'. The best way you can learn and have your question answered is by buying the ebay stealth guide and reading it.
yes stealth accounts do work, and I'm a witness of that. However stealth accounts will not work without the knowledge and experience to conduct one.
Perhaps a starting point could be looking at your current paypal/ebay and seeing why the problems there were caused and what you were limited for.
From there develop a plan on how you can overcome these problems..then think about getting the stealth guide..and then after you know what your doing set up a new account/s. otherwise your just jumping on the horse way too fast my friend.

ceebee 10-25-2014 05:08 AM

Re: Do stealth accounts really work?
 
I think stealth accounts are a brilliant way of getting back at eBay and PP for their draconian methods. I have been in danger of losing my account due to poor DSR for the last two months and it's FRIGHTENING, especially with over £3000 of stock to shift. Now I'm taking GREAT delight in creating several stealths and warming them up in anticipation of the main one going down. Mud in your eye Aspkin.

Daran01 10-31-2014 07:53 AM

Re: Do stealth accounts really work?
 
The sticking point for me, is that you have to have another paypal account in sombody elses name.

JamesNorth101 10-31-2014 07:15 PM

Re: Do stealth accounts really work?
 
Its not somebody elses name. Your not using another persons details.

Its a fictional stealth name

MM78 10-31-2014 08:35 PM

Re: Do stealth accounts really work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daran01 (Post 603743)
The sticking point for me, is that you have to have another paypal account in sombody elses name.

If you make an account with the name of "John Smith", how many do you honestly think exist globally? lol....

Ebayorbust 11-01-2014 06:16 AM

Re: Do stealth accounts really work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daran01 (Post 603743)
The sticking point for me, is that you have to have another paypal account in sombody elses name.

Stealth is not about identity theft.

You create stealth accounts in made-up names. You withdraw the money from the stealth paypal to a bank account in your real name.

Why is this a sticking point for you?

seya 11-11-2014 08:04 AM

Re: Do stealth accounts really work?
 
Hi, Can I ask

if you get a new email, a new address (move home), a new paypal account, set up a new email account, get a new telephone number and a new laptop

is the only real issue the debit card you will be using?

but what if you have another debit card with another bank?

would this work?

the only thing that would be sort of similar is the name? (but maybe the system will allow you to add or take away one letter?

can someone shed some light on this for me?

JamesNorth101 11-11-2014 09:17 AM

Re: Do stealth accounts really work?
 
You cannot use a real platic card. Need a VCC

Need to use a stealth name

Need a new bank account

Lots of steps your missing.

ace great 11-11-2014 06:23 PM

Re: Do stealth accounts really work?
 
its a question of do you want to sell on ebay or not. for some there is no option its the only way. for me it works great. wish I had learned of it before I hit my brick wall with my own accounts. nearly finished me.

buy the guide and speak to one of the guys on here who sell accounts to get you going again and maybe try doing your own also. I got mine from callidus. now used him for a second time. very very good

seya 11-12-2014 03:53 PM

Re: Do stealth accounts really work?
 
Thank you for the replies. I will be getting the guide and buying an ebay account.

I just wanted to know in the future, if I move home and have to change all these things anyway, comp, laptop, address....and essentially get married and change my last name.....can't I just use a different bank account and set a fresh new account as a new person......or are banking details linked (surely that information must be restricted). - just wanted to know if this would be possible in the future (probably years from now lol)...I should really find someone to marry first lol!

Thank you for your help....will be getting the guide and going through it.

Regards

slokor 11-16-2014 12:00 PM

Re: Do stealth accounts really work?
 
Is this the way it is for UK accounts only? cause I don't think it applies to US account and if that is the way it is perhaps youll need to look into operating US accounts instead of UK ones. Is that an option for UK users?

slokor 11-16-2014 12:03 PM

Re: Do stealth accounts really work?
 
And yes it is legal for paypal to look at credit records. You agree to pretty much everything when you sign up for an account.

trumpet111 11-17-2014 08:45 AM

Re: Do stealth accounts really work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heikki10 (Post 336261)
How long have you had yours for? i'm thinking of creating one since i've been the latest victim of ebay suspension for no apperant reason.

Also do i need to create a new paypal account for my new stealth account? or can i just create a new email and then add it to my existing paypal account and then link that new email to my ebay (paypal allows 6 emails per account) so that way it looks like my stealth ebay account has a new paypal

Do you know how what address to add to the new account?
It cannot be the same as old one, right?

What about the returns?

JamesNorth101 11-17-2014 09:29 AM

Re: Do stealth accounts really work?
 
You will need a new address for returns

offthegriduk 11-21-2014 03:37 PM

Re: Do stealth accounts really work?
 
Yes they work well I had one for over 16 months but just wrecked it myself :( own fault

mike316 01-11-2015 07:26 AM

Re: Do stealth accounts really work?
 
Hi all, you guys are my saviours. Been reading these forums for a few years now but until now have never actually taken the plunge. Just created my 1st stealth account & I will be making many more. With process of elimination I'm sure it will work and I can always buy the stealth guide for help. Thanks everyone for amazing advice given on this site.

wwwStealth 03-01-2015 04:10 PM

Re: Do stealth accounts really work?
 
Can I walk away with paypal EU limits on Stealth account?

joffieJaffa 03-03-2015 04:55 AM

Re: Do stealth accounts really work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by seya (Post 607054)
Hi, Can I ask

if you get a new email, a new address (move home), a new paypal account, set up a new email account, get a new telephone number and a new laptop

is the only real issue the debit card you will be using?

but what if you have another debit card with another bank?

would this work?

the only thing that would be sort of similar is the name? (but maybe the system will allow you to add or take away one letter?

can someone shed some light on this for me?

for sure it would

If you have a new last name , new address the card would work because it would have the same postcode and would be in your real name.


I would love to know why some seem to think you couldn't.

RosieTosie 03-03-2015 05:33 AM

Re: Do stealth accounts really work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 608864)
Is this the way it is for UK accounts only? cause I don't think it applies to US account and if that is the way it is perhaps youll need to look into operating US accounts instead of UK ones. Is that an option for UK users?

No, it isn't an option for us slokor because we don't have US bank accounts, just like it would be difficult for you to start selling on UK ebay. Some banks offer overseas accounts but things like that are much more tricky to operate.

RosieTosie 03-03-2015 05:38 AM

Re: Do stealth accounts really work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joffieJaffa (Post 646992)
for sure it would

If you have a new last name , new address the card would work because it would have the same postcode and would be in your real name.


I would love to know why some seem to think you couldn't.

No it wouldn't work because using real bank issued cards will not pass the AVS checks, that's why we use VCC's that as far as paypal is concerned contain only our stealth details. By using real bank cards our real details are there for them to see and our stealth ID's would be blown.

Ebayorbust 03-03-2015 05:54 AM

Re: Do stealth accounts really work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RosieTosie (Post 646998)
No it wouldn't work because using real bank issued cards will not pass the AVS checks, that's why we use VCC's that as far as paypal is concerned contain only our stealth details. By using real bank cards our real details are there for them to see and our stealth ID's would be blown.

No, they aren't.

This is not what an AVS check does. A card transaction with AVS enabled produces a code that states either a full match, partial match or no match has been made against the address provided by the merchant (Paypal). The merchant then uses a set of rules to decide whether to accept the transaction.

At no stage does Paypal see the real info attached to the debit card.

Entropay works as a VCC as it does not produce an AVS code. Paypal's automated rules initially accept cards with no AVS info. However when a card is asked to be confirmed as part of a limitation process, Paypal do require AVS info.

mynameis 03-09-2015 04:59 AM

Re: Do stealth accounts really work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebayorbust (Post 647001)
No, they aren't.

This is not what an AVS check does. A card transaction with AVS enabled produces a code that states either a full match, partial match or no match has been made against the address provided by the merchant (Paypal). The merchant then uses a set of rules to decide whether to accept the transaction.

At no stage does Paypal see the real info attached to the debit card.

Entropay works as a VCC as it does not produce an AVS code. Paypal's automated rules initially accept cards with no AVS info. However when a card is asked to be confirmed as part of a limitation process, Paypal do require AVS info.

In general, I'm sure as part of the AVS check there is another check that confirms the surname on the card issued, no? e.g. Amazon etc.

luverlyjuberly 04-18-2015 07:06 AM

Re: Do stealth accounts really work?
 
I'm setting up new paypal account, are we saying in this thread that we can set up an entropay virtual credit card with our real name and address and then use it for a stealth account because Paypal cannot see that real name and address?
Can I then use the main card that have my real details or is there another step e have to take when using entropay?
Sorry for being a bit dim today.

sax4 04-18-2015 08:15 AM

Re: Do stealth accounts really work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luverlyjuberly (Post 660438)
I'm setting up new paypal account, are we saying in this thread that we can set up an entropay virtual credit card with our real name and address and then use it for a stealth account because Paypal cannot see that real name and address?
Can I then use the main card that have my real details or is there another step e have to take when using entropay?
Sorry for being a bit dim today.

Yes Entropay will work with any address, ie your Paypal account is 12, stealth Street, stealthtown, and your Entropay account address is your address.

Don't apologise, you can help it ;)

luverlyjuberly 04-18-2015 08:21 AM

Re: Do stealth accounts really work?
 
Cheers, I've just spent a few hours setting up a new account. ebay, Paypal, Entropay, gmail. my brains shutting down so that's it for today.

sax4 04-18-2015 08:59 AM

Re: Do stealth accounts really work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luverlyjuberly (Post 660452)
Cheers, I've just spent a few hours setting up a new account. ebay, Paypal, Entropay, gmail. my brains shutting down so that's it for today.

Yep takes a little while to get your head around the basics but one you do you'll have many successful accounts

rsot 04-18-2015 10:46 AM

Re: Do stealth accounts really work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sax4 (Post 660469)
Yep takes a little while to get your head around the basics but one you do you'll have many successful accounts

Also depends on the what is being sold - sometimes people forget that....

GreenBean 04-18-2015 10:55 AM

Re: Do stealth accounts really work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luverlyjuberly (Post 660438)
I'm setting up new paypal account, are we saying in this thread that we can set up an entropay virtual credit card with our real name and address and then use it for a stealth account because Paypal cannot see that real name and address?
Can I then use the main card that have my real details or is there another step e have to take when using entropay?
Sorry for being a bit dim today.

no no no NO....

easier that what you just wrote:

Make the entropay with your real ID. Fund that main account.

Use funds from that to make your virtual card to use with paypal.

ALL that is needed is the numbers.... yep, no name, no address: simply those sweet little numbers.

easy peasy.


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