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taerese 11-16-2014 02:55 PM

Stealth account for a business seller
 
A lot of threads I read on here are dated and I am not sure if stealth accounts still works or ebay has cracked them. I used to be a business seller on ebay with my business name associated with the account, unfortunately, like many of you, I woke up one day to find my account suspended for low standard. I appealed with no success.

I am looking to getting started afresh with brand new computers, various low cost offices locations but I would need several accounts that have good enough listing allowances or a multiple of fairly good allowances.

I want to run on zero risk so I dont want to start cleaning cookies everyday or private browsing whatever. Would it be okay if I run two stealth accounts from same location, so I can spread like 10 into 5 different office locations?

stevebills 11-16-2014 04:18 PM

Re: Stealth account for a business seller
 
Stealth's work and u can run a few stealth fro same location u just need a few dongles

taerese 11-16-2014 05:28 PM

Re: Stealth account for a business seller
 
Thanks for the update @stevebills. I am currently on sky broadband. Do you mean I should use dongles to power my laptops for ebay activities? Maybe I should get 3 dongles for 3 diff laptops and use those laptops exclusively for ebay activities?

Make sense?

agent-x 11-16-2014 05:57 PM

Re: Stealth account for a business seller
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taerese (Post 609005)
Thanks for the update @stevebills. I am currently on sky broadband. Do you mean I should use dongles to power my laptops for ebay activities? Maybe I should get 3 dongles for 3 diff laptops and use those laptops exclusively for ebay activities?

Make sense?

You only need the one dongle.

However, every time you use an account make sure the IP address is different... To change the ip address all you do is unplug and plug it back in.

To keep track of your IP addresses keep a log on an excel sheet.

taerese 11-16-2014 06:58 PM

Re: Stealth account for a business seller
 
Thanks for the massive support @agent-x.
Now, I am looking to buy stealth accounts cause I cant stand creating new accounts with a very limited listing allowance. I read that my account should not be more than 50miles from my location. Are these the risk attached to buying stealth accounts?

JamesNorth101 11-16-2014 07:02 PM

Re: Stealth account for a business seller
 
Being within 50 miles is no longer an issue so long as the IP is from the same country

taerese 11-16-2014 07:37 PM

Re: Stealth account for a business seller
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 609045)
Being within 50 miles is no longer an issue so long as the IP is from the same country

Thanks @JamesNorth101. Whats UK virtual credit card is the best to associate with my PayPal account?

After my ebay earnings are transferred to my stealth PayPal account, is it safe to move that money to my original paypal account that is associated with my business account (This was the same paypal account associated with my previously suspended ebay account)

ooooo.halo 11-16-2014 07:43 PM

Re: Stealth account for a business seller
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taerese (Post 609005)
Thanks for the update @stevebills. I am currently on sky broadband. Do you mean I should use dongles to power my laptops for ebay activities? Maybe I should get 3 dongles for 3 diff laptops and use those laptops exclusively for ebay activities?

Make sense?

One laptop and one.dongle will be suffice. Just operate using user accounts :-)

JamesNorth101 11-16-2014 07:48 PM

Re: Stealth account for a business seller
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taerese (Post 609055)
Thanks @JamesNorth101. Whats UK virtual credit card is the best to associate with my PayPal account?

After my ebay earnings are transferred to my stealth PayPal account, is it safe to move that money to my original paypal account that is associated with my business account (This was the same paypal account associated with my previously suspended ebay account)

You can use Entropay.

No it is not safe to do that. You will need a bank account to withdraw to.

taerese 11-16-2014 08:16 PM

Re: Stealth account for a business seller
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ooooo.halo (Post 609057)
One laptop and one.dongle will be suffice. Just operate using user accounts :-)

Thanks, I am looking to employ like 2 or 3 apprentice staff. I just took orders for a large stock when my previous account was suspended. Infact, I was planning to expand at the time. I need to increase my stock holdings to at least £15,000. So, I am not sure a user account will be sufficient enough and may not look even professional.

I am thiinking 1 desktop + dongle to one staff. My old laptop I use to connect to ebay (This one I am using at the moment) will be sold off. I dont want to start clearing cookie cause I want to connect to a diff ebay account. So, 1 ebay account = 1 dedicated laptop.

@JamesNorth101

Can I withdraw paypal to entropay? otherwise any new bank account will still be associated to my old name and address (Connection which I dont want at all. And I do not want to use family/friend as I like to keep business strictly business)

Guys... I am very happy for all your support. Its my first day on this forum and its like heaven. I wish I could send xmas gifts to you all as a thank you.

shani1212 11-16-2014 08:27 PM

Re: Stealth account for a business seller
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taerese (Post 609055)
Thanks @JamesNorth101. Whats UK virtual credit card is the best to associate with my PayPal account?

After my ebay earnings are transferred to my stealth PayPal account, is it safe to move that money to my original paypal account that is associated with my business account (This was the same paypal account associated with my previously suspended ebay account)

Taerese, Do not transfer your stealth account's earning into your SUSPENDED ebay account's PP. it will link you or PP will get limited. I have one friend have done the same thing and got linked with his suspended old PP. Good luck...

JamesNorth101 11-16-2014 10:02 PM

Re: Stealth account for a business seller
 
Quote:

Can I withdraw paypal to entropay? otherwise any new bank account will still be associated to my old name and address (Connection which I dont want at all. And I do not want to use family/friend as I like to keep business strictly business)
Nope. Going to need a new bank account for this one :thumb:

taerese 11-16-2014 10:50 PM

Re: Stealth account for a business seller
 
Thanks. Below is the summary of my understanding so far based on your various assistance! but I wanted to know why I needed a Virtual Credit Card -entropay for example.

- New laptops
- Rent mailbox - Realname
- Get entropay account with real name
- Open paypal with stealth name
- Open ebay with stealth name
- Always use PayPal to pay ebay fees

Since I will be opening a new bank account for each stealth (Think money or cooperative) and my money will be withdrawn from PayPal into this account.

Why do I need VCC

stevebills 11-17-2014 06:12 AM

Re: Stealth account for a business seller
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taerese (Post 609042)
Thanks for the massive support @agent-x.
Now, I am looking to buy stealth accounts cause I cant stand creating new accounts with a very limited listing allowance. I read that my account should not be more than 50miles from my location. Are these the risk attached to buying stealth accounts?

try and buy aged accounts they are miles better for listings it took me a while to realized fresh accounts cant sell items

JamesNorth101 11-17-2014 06:53 AM

Re: Stealth account for a business seller
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taerese (Post 609119)
Thanks. Below is the summary of my understanding so far based on your various assistance! but I wanted to know why I needed a Virtual Credit Card -entropay for example.

- New laptops
- Rent mailbox - Realname
- Get entropay account with real name
- Open paypal with stealth name
- Open ebay with stealth name
- Always use PayPal to pay ebay fees

Since I will be opening a new bank account for each stealth (Think money or cooperative) and my money will be withdrawn from PayPal into this account.

Why do I need VCC

No need fro a new laptop
You can also use VCC to pay eBay fees.
The VCC will also confirm the PayPal.

GreenBean 11-17-2014 06:59 AM

Re: Stealth account for a business seller
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taerese (Post 609042)
Thanks for the massive support @agent-x.
Now, I am looking to buy stealth accounts cause I cant stand creating new accounts with a very limited listing allowance. I read that my account should not be more than 50miles from my location. Are these the risk attached to buying stealth accounts?

Before you make a purchase of any account, read up on the forum too.

It's fine these days to have your IP simply within the same country.

If you are making multiple accounts, I would strongly suggest two dongles to give you a wider range of IPs. Thus you look different to ebay.

Good Luck

:ranger:

taerese 11-17-2014 07:43 AM

Re: Stealth account for a business seller
 
Thanks @stevebills @GreenBean @JamesNorth101

I have been reading this forum for the past 8 hours non stop.


The previous account I associated with my ebay which was suspended was my business current account. Is it a good idea if I ask the bank to open a savings account for me under the same business account?
The other alternative I am considering is the think money or the co-operative.
Links below:
Cashminder | The Co-operative Bank
Apply for a thinkmoney Personal Account online

JamesNorth101 11-17-2014 08:36 AM

Re: Stealth account for a business seller
 
Cashminder though the CoOp works nicely.

taerese 11-17-2014 08:41 AM

Re: Stealth account for a business seller
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 609277)
Cashminder though the CoOp works nicely.

Thanks and thanks for the PM.

taerese 11-17-2014 03:37 PM

Re: Stealth account for a business seller
 
Hi guys its me again.

Just re read everything from top and I have a question:

Why cant I use my real name with VCC since I am using a real name with the bank account. Afterall, whatever checks PayPal would do on the VCC they can as well do on the bank account I am withdrawing to.

stevebills 11-17-2014 03:50 PM

Re: Stealth account for a business seller
 
PP cant see the bank account or VCC (if using Entropay) registered addresses.

You use a VCC to confirm the address, bank account to verify the PP account.;)

taerese 11-17-2014 04:02 PM

Re: Stealth account for a business seller
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stevebills (Post 609416)
PP cant see the bank account or VCC (if using Entropay) registered addresses.

You use a VCC to confirm the address, bank account to verify the PP account.;)


In that case, why cant I use a real name with PP if my address has actually changed (Moved home). What else do they have to associate me with the old account?

I asked this because of the situation when they ask stealth account holders to verify their identity. When it comes to this situation, I know it would be game over since they would share this Identity with ebay, so, I will just verify my identity, then withdraw my money and move on. Better than a situation I am unable to verify my identify and unable to withdraw my money at the same time.


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