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jayne dunn 09-09-2016 04:52 AM

Re: Chinese sellers posing as UK sellers??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spindoctor (Post 798780)
Care to share your knowledge?

Yes I will be back after few hours and share something I know how they operate. Be frankly those things are only offered by mainland Chinese.

stevebills 09-11-2016 01:01 PM

Re: Chinese sellers posing as UK sellers??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by e2free (Post 797393)
Yes agree I belive 95% sellers are xxxxx The taxman they way they selling soso cheap
I get goods direct from factories in china and can tell this they prices on ebay are amazon seller selling no way they can sell at these prices if they pay just even proper vat

Leave tax that's next thing

Selling expensive items iPhone I pads Samsung phone etc and not even vat register so how they doing their accounts right

Babz The second biggest eBay seller in the uk has shut down as he didn't pay Royal Mail for his deliveries and I guess he didn't pay tax and he was the cheapest on eBay for a lot of goods and now we no how he did it
He was turning over £1.5 million a month wow
What a genius lol

peghmeypong 09-11-2016 02:29 PM

Stevebills, care to share your sources?

e2free 09-11-2016 02:34 PM

Re: Chinese sellers posing as UK sellers??
 
google it you will see

Play 09-11-2016 04:51 PM

Re: Chinese sellers posing as UK sellers??
 
First I heard of it! Wow.. BabzMedia ceased trading.

Anyone think they've now gone stealth? :p

e2free 09-11-2016 05:41 PM

Re: Chinese sellers posing as UK sellers??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Play (Post 799326)
First I heard of it! Wow.. BabzMedia ceased trading.

Anyone think they've now gone stealth? :p

Yes play been reading comments on AZ forums they back with many accounts

agent-x 11-13-2016 03:14 PM

Re: Chinese sellers posing as UK sellers??
 
9 November, 2016 | 01:34PM GMT

Hello,

Earlier this year, the UK government announced new measures to tackle the non-payment of VAT by overseas sellers whose goods are forward deployed to the UK.

We work closely with HMRC to ensure our sellers comply with their VAT obligations. If we are informed by HMRC that a seller is not complying with these requirements, then we will take appropriate action, up to and including permanent suspension.

We have already contacted hundreds of overseas sellers to notify and educate them on the need to comply with the law and we will continue to remind sellers of their obligations.

To ensure you are compliant, and for further details on this issue please read the latest guidance from HMRC at: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vat-over...oods-in-the-uk

eBay remains committed to providing a level playing field for all sellers and we will continue to work closely with HMRC on this issue.

Regards
The eBay Team

+++++++++++++++

I wonder if they'll start to ban these big accounts

Lucifer 11-13-2016 04:02 PM

Re: Chinese sellers posing as UK sellers??
 
I have seen few chinese sellers are already VAT registered . How they do it? any idea

MM78 11-13-2016 04:10 PM

Re: Chinese sellers posing as UK sellers??
 
Just a quick question, is VAT like a EIN for the USA?

JamesNorth101 11-13-2016 04:14 PM

Re: Chinese sellers posing as UK sellers??
 
Value Added Tax - Basically when an item is sold in the UK its the % that goes to the government.

So an item that is sold for £100 then £20 of that will be paid by the item seller directly to the government as VAT

Its pretty complicated though as there are different rates for all sorts of different items and services. There are also loads of exceptions and if you sell under a certain threshold then you don't have to register for VAT which means you can sell things for 20% cheaper without loosing any money V people who are VAT registered and have to pay 20% of the final selling price to the government.

I think the equivalent in the USA is the state sales tax? I may be remembering the name incorrectly though

MM78 11-13-2016 04:28 PM

Re: Chinese sellers posing as UK sellers??
 
That sounds about right Jamesnorth, are there special paperwork or or a unique number required to apply for this VAT? I can't see it being too difficult for overseas people applying for the VAT.

JamesNorth101 11-13-2016 04:37 PM

Re: Chinese sellers posing as UK sellers??
 
When you apply for VAT you get a VAT number which is a matter of public record which means you can verify a company just by its VAT number.

There is a bit of paperwork involved but its nothing major when applying to become VAT registered.

MM78 11-13-2016 05:36 PM

Re: Chinese sellers posing as UK sellers??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 811850)
When you apply for VAT you get a VAT number which is a matter of public record which means you can verify a company just by its VAT number.

There is a bit of paperwork involved but its nothing major when applying to become VAT registered.

Thanks bro.....

ontheway 11-13-2016 05:59 PM

Re: Chinese sellers posing as UK sellers??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sax4 (Post 798047)
Sellers pretending to be someone they are not - disgraceful, goes against principles of stealth ;)



The container shipped to U.K. warehouse then they use Royal Mail.


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agent-x 11-14-2016 02:15 AM

Re: Chinese sellers posing as UK sellers??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucifer (Post 811843)
I have seen few chinese sellers are already VAT registered . How they do it? any idea

As have I, most of them seem ⊗⊗⊗⊗ though

Kiroshi 11-14-2016 03:07 AM

Re: Chinese sellers posing as UK sellers??
 
I know it may seem obvious to some but I would strongly recommend getting some professional pictures taken of all products.

I am still doing well in certain listings that are now rife with chinese sellers, which weren't before, but when I scroll down, they are all using their standard stock photos, or crappy iphone pics, whereas mine look awesome! These things matter when people are scanning through all the same items.

997turbo 11-14-2016 11:19 AM

Re: Chinese sellers posing as UK sellers??
 
Oh well ,not just posting as UK sellers
we also have main warehouse storage/forwarding services in north America ,all over the Europe,asia..
we can posting as all ebay sellers now if we want

come one guys:boink:, don't just import from US,join our new techs,we make worlds better:FF:
join our warehouse services you can posting as any country sellers you want!

ask your supplier they all known how to operate this service,its a main shipping method we use for years, they will instruct you:laugh:

997turbo 11-14-2016 11:22 AM

Re: Chinese sellers posing as UK sellers??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jayne dunn (Post 798782)
Yes I will be back after few hours and share something I know how they operate. Be frankly those things are only offered by mainland Chinese.

as far as I known the first doing such service are hongkongese.over 10 years ago,right now the biggest warehouse centre in UK also operated hongkongese
its a shame that you don't even known this as you based in hongkong:bored:

arktech 11-14-2016 11:58 AM

Re: Chinese sellers posing as UK sellers??
 
HSBC is a hong kong bank go into them in hong kong and open a uk account . hsbc hong kong can verify your identity.

singseeds 01-03-2017 11:07 PM

Re: Chinese sellers posing as UK sellers??
 
You think its bad on ebay uk? Go check out taobao.com. Its all in mandarin but you can see the prices which are in Chinese Yuan.

I'm from Singapore and I've worked in both China and UK. The mainland Chinese are willing to work 100 times harder for 10% of the money. And they have no family life or balanced life. Its just work work work. And they manufacture most products that you see around the world so they have the best prices to start with. If they want to compete in a certain category, you can just forget about selling there ever again.

Most of my business friends here in Singapore know that it is impossible to fight them by price. So we counter that by selling niche products or creating brand loyalty for your products.


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